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[Update] Mention one term un-wrong, and you're gone - even if it's just the internet!

Earlier today I was on the rise, picking flowers from community gardens - these plants existed to pick, because they were there. I just wish more people would get along... I want happy people - Is this wrong?

[UPDATE] - Ok, here is my Official letter of apology I posted earlier yesterday - www.glitch.com/status/PCR9Q... | This is the one people don't want to share, because it doesn't paint me in the light they are trying to paint me in. They cherry pick around it. This for people who are claiming I have yet to apologize.

More info can be found in off-topic - www.glitch.com/forum/offtop...

Posted 12 months ago by Messy Monster Subscriber! | Permalink

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  • Wow, you totally revised your post from the original version I read five minutes ago, lol.

    My understanding from the information provided in this, as well as the previous version of the post, is that you were taking (stealing) herbs from a public herb garden because you choose to, as you described it, roleplay the part of a "picker" and not the part of a "planter".

    Somebody became upset as a result of your behavior, there was some kind of verbal altercation that occurred between you and the other individual , and now your paid account is suspended.  You feel the suspension of your account by TS was unfair.

    I am sure there is some other info missing, but that about sums up what I could actually follow from your posts.
    Posted 12 months ago by Riddel Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I simply want people to discover the good side of Glitch, rather than figure out the fake side, and the used side of Glitch - That's too bad...
    Posted 12 months ago by Messy Monster Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Nah, the original thread is still there for now. http://www.glitch.com/forum/general/13292/ Although I'm sorry, but I can't really follow what's going on...is that the case, MM?
    Posted 12 months ago by Shiromisa Kaya Subscriber! | Permalink
  • @Riddel His post from 46 mins ago is still here: www.glitch.com/forum/genera... - this is a totally different thread. As for this thread, I haven't the faintest idea what he's talking about.
    Posted 12 months ago by Boom and Bust Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Huh?  This is just confusing.
    Posted 12 months ago by Brita Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I'd like to help any student win the greatest amount of earnings amongst their college, rather than be all for themselves I want you to win,it's it..  
    Posted 12 months ago by Messy Monster Subscriber! | Permalink
  • "scratches her head" No clue what this person is talking about but if you were suspended there had to be a VERY good reason why. Take this as a learning experience.
    Posted 12 months ago by Casombra Amberrose Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Since he decided to call me out by name in his other post, I will give my side of the story- He came in to the gardens, telling everyone he was going to take the herbs they had all planted and been tending. If he wants to do so, that is his prerogative. I said nothing. If he wants to be rude, that's his business.  

    It wasn't until he said (and I quote) "Imma rape all of you" that I had a problem with it. 

    He is making this out to be that he has done nothing wrong, and he was simply role playing. 

    I don't know about you guys, but I prefer not to have any rapists in Glitch. Some of us have been through that in real life, and I do not want it in my "escape". He then told me:  "I don't have the time to deal with someone as low as you"....when I voiced my concerns to him. I was trying to talk to him about it like an adult, and he basically called me a low life cry baby. 
    Posted 12 months ago by NutMeg Botwin Subscriber! | Permalink
  • OMG ok.. thanks for clearing this up NuTMeg... bye bye! I am a victim of rape and I would have taken that VERY badly as well so take your nasty mouth elsewhere like WoW where you can get away with being an nasty mouthed jerk. We don't need that sort of crap here! Thanks TS!!!!!
    Posted 12 months ago by Casombra Amberrose Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Oops, thank you both for the link to the other post.

    Nutmeg, thanks for posting the actual sequence of events that occurred. I don't understand how anyone could think such behavior would not get them suspended.
    Posted 12 months ago by Riddel Subscriber! | Permalink
  • The original post keeps getting edited...and honestly, this doesn't sound like the Don Draper I remember. But I suppose people change. Sad. 
    Posted 12 months ago by NutMeg Botwin Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Well NuTMeg it was probably a nasty mouthed brat and now big brother/sister or mom/dad have taken over to try and redeem the brat.... I say too late.
    Posted 12 months ago by Casombra Amberrose Subscriber! | Permalink
  • They didn't get along so one of them got spanked and can't come out to play any more.
    Posted 12 months ago by Simplin Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I require pictures before I even try and comment on what's going on in here.
    Posted 12 months ago by Volkov Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Nutmeg: Oh jeez, hon, I'm sorry. D: I...would not be at all pleased if that happened to me, to put it lightly. 
    Posted 12 months ago by Shiromisa Kaya Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Yeah, that's uncalled-for. Completely. Snatch some herbs, whatever. Have some garbage like that come outta your mouth, though, and I've got no pity for you.
    Posted 12 months ago by Djabriil Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Just to point out here to Messy Monster, if Tiny Speck suspended your accounts, they had a reason. This is not an accusation toward you, or inflammatory, just pointing some things out.

    Remember they (Tiny Speck) can *easy* review logs, lines of code and bug reports. This means actions performed by your account (including things that you may have been doing elsewhere in-game and chats between players).

    This is THEIR game, and its in BETA. They can do what they want. If you were found to be doing something that they found to be violating their terms of service,  and your account suspended, that is within their right. You may wish to re-read the beta Terms of Service.

    If you have an issue with not being "warned" before having your account suspended, then you should contact Tiny Speck directly. Their service is pretty prompt by social gaming and online environment guidelines - because they care about what they are building.

    Single edit:  If your account was "hacked" I suggest again, contacting Tiny Speck. They can review the IP information, and potentially information about the machine from which the account was accessed. If the "hack" is found to be a valid complaint, once again they should be able to find this out.

    Since you can still post here, I hope that you have changed your password, as well as your email address that is associated with this account's password in case that was compromised as well.

    If you want to consider requesting a refund for your paid account services, perhaps you can do just that; under the 'going back to beta' posting I believe you can do just that.

    Multi-posting about the issue, an account-related issue, without actually citing all the facts, nor having the other part speak toward the actual issue makes it seems as though you are complaining to the wrong crowd. You really should check your emotions at the door about this one. Its understandable that you are upset, but then perhaps Glitch was not the game for you.

    Alternatively, there are other MMO's out there that allow for more aggressive game play. I hear many have many enterprising young individuals (and corporations) that may be better suited to your game-play style. I shall refrain from naming them directly, as to not speak an opinion towards folks here that may also play them.
    Posted 12 months ago by Reepicheep Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Reepicheep: Hehe, I thought I knew what game you were talking about, and when I got to a certain word, it was confirmed. My friend's been talking about it endlessly the last couple days, and I kind of want to try it out to see what it's like. The community seems waaaaaaaaay different from Glitch's. Is it any good?
    Posted 12 months ago by Shiromisa Kaya Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Props to TS for handling this appropriately.
    Posted 12 months ago by Crag Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I remember seeing Messy Monster in the gardens ripping off from people right in front of them and being a total hole about it.
    And NOW he's saying "can't we all get along?"

    That's like kicking someone square in the shin and then pretend to cry because/as if he doesn't understand why the victim is mad.

    I saw in the chat at the time that he was told that these plants were planted, tended, fertilized, etc and being waited on to finish growing, and he thumbed his nose at them.
    These plants weren't "just there" and he knew it.
    I say good riddance if you're acting like a disrespectful punk.
    I'm NOT saying anyone IS, just that some ACT like it. Just to be clear.
    Posted 12 months ago by airplay Subscriber! | Permalink
  • @Boom and Bust:

    This might shed some light on his activities:

    www.glitch.com/forum/genera...
    Posted 12 months ago by Warrender Subscriber! | Permalink
  • @Messy Monster: Taking plants from a community garden is not against the TOS, and will not get you banned. Making inflammatory, offensive comments IS against the TOS and will get you banned. You should have been more careful with what you typed in local chat.
    Posted 12 months ago by Shepherdmoon Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I'm very glad to see TS taking stuff like this seriously. This is a game for adults, and while some foul language is fine in my eyes, saying you are going to rape someone is just plain wrong. I don't care how you meant it. I play WoW and I am VERY tired of seeing that as a casual phrase.

    2 sidenotes -
    a} you don't "roleplay as a picker" that's a lame excuse. It is one thng to pick crops/herbs no one is tending, but people who are camping spots put time and effort into their sections. I go in an put guano on a section, replant, cycle, until i'm out of guano. I make sure to leave all plots i'm working on planted in. You aren't "roleplaying" anything, you are just being a greedy little git.
    b} isn't calling someone out on the forums by name {like you did in the other thread} against ToS too? So maybe the suspension will be a flat out removal? One can only hope.
    Posted 12 months ago by Pixieyelsraek Subscriber! | Permalink
  • We all make mistakes in life and in gameplay.  I hear a lot of users simply hoping that you will learn from the mistake, MM.  Understand that words have power and that your choices matter not just to you but to others.

    Or maybe this will make a comeback!
    www.glitch-strategy.com/wik...
    Posted 12 months ago by Sloppy Ketchup Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I think I'd be okay (or, really, less upset) with "Imma rape all yr currants" because then it would have clearly been in the financial way. The news, even today, still uses the word 'rape' in many more ways other than just exclusively sexual. However, due to it being used here in an ambiguous way... and due to the fact that the word (in society) is becoming more and more specific to exclusively refer to the sexually invasive act, I can understand TS being a bit grumpy at using it in-game.
    Posted 12 months ago by ✦ SHI∇IΔΠ ✦ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • One "un-wrong" term? You want happy people? Don't make rape jokes.
    Posted 12 months ago by Laerwen Subscriber! | Permalink
  • @SHI....however you're spelling that.. what on earth are you talking about? If anything, it's the other way round. 
    Posted 12 months ago by Mildmay Subscriber! | Permalink
  • No, he probably meant to say reap and was talking to the flowers. But seriously, I almost forgot there was a third thread on the subject. Glad to see they are all alive and well.
    Posted 12 months ago by Malus Agricola Subscriber! | Permalink
  • when a person plants something in the community gardens they need to remember that once they have done that it is no longer "theirs".   Think of it as putting a creative commons licence on the personal photos you upload to the internet (some people would claim that any photo you upload to the internet no longer belongs to you, but that is a whole other conversation).  

    When you take your chances with the community gardens its a bit of a crap shot and all depends on the good will of other players.    I don't have a vegetable crop so I have always had to buy my produce from auction or from the vendor.   Personally, I wouldn't take vegetables from the community garden without replanting. Since I don't usually have seeds I just buy from auction.    I'm less polite when it comes to the gardens in the model homes.   I think there are people who believe the model home gardens are their property because they've "adopted" them.   I have taken a few things from those gardens and not replanted (no seeds, but I did add fertilizer to one).

    I strongly object to mm joking about how he's going to "rape everyone".   
    Posted 12 months ago by Treesa Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Personally I would have blocked him, but not reported him.   I don't think he should have been suspended for playing up his "bad guy" image.   I think I saw an interview where TS/stoot actually encouraged mm's style of play and/or "drug dealer" persona.   Yeah, he took it too far throwing the word "rape" around but blocking and/or boycotting his auctions (without naming names in the forum of course) would have been a better option than reporting/suspending.
    Posted 12 months ago by Treesa Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I don't know what MM's original post said but when I see someone edit the comments that I respond to I make a note to copy paste their comment every time I respond to them in the future.  Its a nasty practice to delete/edit your original comment that others have responded to.  It makes their answers look out of context.  Its just nasty, devious, and dishonest.   
    Posted 12 months ago by Treesa Subscriber! | Permalink
  • best thing to do: after u pick something, replant it. or u can replace with something else. 
    Posted 12 months ago by Kristabel Subscriber! | Permalink