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Skill Acceleration

I've noticed this a couple of times now, and haven't seen any information posted about it, so I thought I'd ask here. :)

When I start to learn a new skill, I use points or emblems to speed up a skill until I'm learning at the quickest possible rate. However, when I return to the page after ~10 hours (sometimes less), I'm no longer learning at the accelerated rate. (The Magic Rock isn't sweating on the Skills page & there is no text under the skill to indicate accelerated learning.)

Does the speeding up only work for a Glitch day? Or a few hours? What's the deal?

Posted 14 months ago by Wynella Subscriber! | Permalink

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  • My understanding is that it will continue to learn quickly until the allotted time that you have purchased runs out.
    If it's going to take 12 hours to learn a skill, and you spend favor that knocks off 2 hours, the speedy learning will continue until the 2 hours have been shaved off and then it will go back to normal.

    If this is wrong, or incomplete, somebody please correct me.
    Posted 14 months ago by Poppy of Detwoit Subscriber! | Permalink
  • The very fastest that you can learn a skill is 1/2 of the REMAINING TIME. So if your skill takes 2 days 4 hours 6 minutes and 30 seconds to learn, and you have enough favor and emblems to get it down as soon as you start learning it, you could reduce it by 1 day 2 hours 3 minutes and 15 seconds. However, if you waited a day before applying any favor points or emblems to learn it quicker, you would only be able to reduce it by 14 hours 3 minutes and 15 seconds. So it pays to try to cut time off as soon as possible.

    Also, in case you didn't know, using favor points with the primary Giant of the skill you are learning will reduce learning time at a rate of 10 seconds per favor point or 2 hours 46 minutes and 40 seconds per emblem. Using favor points with the secondary Giants of the skill you are learning will reduce learning time at a rate of 7 seconds per favor point or 1 hour 56 minutes and 40 seconds per emblem. And finally using favor points with any of the Giants not associated with the skill you are learning will reduce learning time at a rate of 5 seconds per favor point or 1 hour 23 minutes and 20 seconds per emblem.
    Posted 14 months ago by TRB4 Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Poppy: Aha! That totally makes sense. I had assumed it did it over the full life of the skill, but your explanation clears up why it goes away.

    TRB4: I knew the Primary Giant was better, but I didn't know the official numbers. Thanks for that! 

    Thank you both muchly. :) 

    Can I accelerate it again once it wears off? 
    Posted 14 months ago by Wynella Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Not only can you accelerate learning again after the speedy learning wears off, you can in fact spend favour to speed things up while your rock's ALREADY learning fast. The extra favour you spend extends the existing fast learning time.

    However there are caps on how much favour you can spend per Glitch-day - but the shrine will warn you if you're going to hit your limit... so try it & see.
    Posted 14 months ago by Snazzlefrazz Subscriber! | Permalink
  • The shrine only warns you about the DONATION CAP, the only cap on favor spending is when you hit 50% reduction of skill learning time.
    Posted 14 months ago by TRB4 Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Possible *spoiler*

    If you look in the right places, you can also find quoins(?) that look like little clocks and that can shave a little bit of time off of learning.  There is also a drink that shaves time off, but I can't remember what it's called.
    Posted 14 months ago by Poppy of Detwoit Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Ooops - slip of the brain. I meant XP & favour from donation... but the darn fingers said the wrong thing :-)

    If you've got more favour in the shrine than you can spend on a skill (eg the skill only has 10 minutes to run & you've got 500 favour) I know the shrine adjusts the amount of favour it offers to let you spend (eg a shrine might give you a "spend 30 favour to accelerate learning" option and leave the rest safe in the shrine).

    I assume the shrine's smart enough to also adjust the option if you've got stacks of time left on the skill, but almost all of it's accelerated already??
    Posted 14 months ago by Snazzlefrazz Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Okay, all kinds of epiphanies here! 

    Snazzlefrazz: EGG-cellent! I shall use this knowledge wisely in my quest for... well... knowledge. ;)

    Poppy: I have seen & received the little clock quoins, but I could never figure out what they were for. lol  Handy stuff. 

    Thanks again! May your quoins be large & your harvesting bonus-licious.
    Posted 14 months ago by Wynella Subscriber! | Permalink
  • The only clock quoin I have found is only 4 seconds and it takes a very very very long time to respawn, so not really a great strategy. However, FAVOR quoins is where it's at! even a low favor quoin such as say +8 Favor is +8 Favor to EVERY Giant! Which equals out to about 880 currants worth of favor from one quoin! and I have gotten some Favor quoins upwards of +48 Favor, thats 5280 currants worth of Favor at once! The favor quoins are the same shape and size as XP and Energy quions, but they're pink and have a white star on them. The small ones take about 5-6 minutes to respawn and the larger ones take about an hour or so.
    Posted 14 months ago by TRB4 Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Wynella... Zu has an awesome guide to shrine donation & accelerating skills here: http://www.glitch.com/forum/general/9667/
    Posted 14 months ago by Snazzlefrazz Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Pungent Sunrise is the drink. I believe that both the drink and the 'clock' coins can speed learning even after you have maxed the 50% boost from the Giants. Coins in the Ancestral lands are bigger. I've seen over 100 seconds.
    Posted 14 months ago by Meezley Subscriber! | Permalink
  • TRB4: I am learning to love the Ancestral Lands. Kinda love when they kick me out too - Random new place! Yay. hehe. ty!

    I'll go check out that link right now, Snazzlefrazz. :) Appreciate it.

    Meezley: I got a coin for 137 seconds yesterday, but I think it was a clock icon, not pink with a white star, so that was likely related to Ancestral Lands time...? But I'm going to keep my eye out! :) ty
    Posted 14 months ago by Wynella Subscriber! | Permalink
  • the rock animation and your skill deduction don't match up
    Posted 14 months ago by phelps.mike Subscriber! | Permalink
  • mike - yep, it's a known bug.. always best to check the actual skills page if you need to be certain.

    And to answer my own question:
    I assume the shrine's smart enough to also adjust the option if you've got stacks of time left on the skill, but almost all of it's accelerated already??

    Yes it is. I've been donating like crazy to Zille for the last couple of days to speed up Mining4... and now I have 15 hours to go and 68 points "in the bank" but the last favour spend didn't take it down to zero and now the shrine says "you can't spend points right now". Clever stuff.
    Posted 14 months ago by Snazzlefrazz Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Wynella: The coin was for learning. The extra time in the lands comes from the dust traps: golgi apparatus, mitochondrial DNA, etc.
    Posted 14 months ago by Meezley Subscriber! | Permalink