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#### Potion economy

Super short summary/protip for glitchen:
According to the auction prices:
Glitchen - For those bog folk out there: You can get more money in auction if you don't bother making potions and you sell the ingredients instead. The more work you do refining your ingredients, the less you make. Herbs are very expensive.
Tiny Speck - Is this really the goal? Ingredients costing more than the finished good?
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Side note:
Tiny Speck - Also, please please please, don't force us to push the "try it" button for these time bound quests. Can't you just start counting as we go and reset when appropriate? I was up late at night, didn't realize I needed to push that button, and wound up spending around 60,000 currants having to do two full rounds of 7 potions each. Did this before I realized the cheaper way of buying first level ingredients haha Although I honestly was happy to finally need money for something! :) This was the first thing in a long time that required a chunk of currants. I wish there was more out there like that, making money is kind of empty without a spending goal.
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More info:
I realize auction prices fluctuate, I used the lowest current value for each item in the example below as of typing this up right before this post. I just took the first 4 items from the cauldron wiki page and gave you prices. In every case, purchasing the potion costs less, (WAY less usually) than creating it with ingredients if you have to purchase those ingredients. Only in one case for these 4 does it actually cost less to create one of those first level ingredients instead of just buying those as well. Also please keep in mind it's actually much more expensive than I mention down there because you can't usually buy the exact amount of item you need either.
Am I like missing an important Glitch philosophy here and currants don't really matter to anyone and it's really about just having fun making potions or something? They certainly don't really matter to me anymore since they are so easy to make and not so much to buy with them.
I wish I could bold this, but the perfect example is Amourous philtre - 100c to buy one or ~3,500c to make one? That's just crazy! Or am I? Hope I'm not being completely ignorant of some important Glitch thing here, please let me know if I am! I'm prohibited from planting herbs where I live (dislike). I realize community herb gardens on the other side of the subway/fertilizer exist, so yes that is an option. I just didn't want to go that route.
Something to think about. Let me know if this makes sense or is totally off base.
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Details:
Cost of Amourous Philtre
By purchasing the philtre:
98
By purchasing the first level of ingredients (essences and such) pre-made:
1918
By purchasing the ingredients and making the essences and other first level ingredients:
3492
Cost of Ancestral Spirits
By purchasing the spirits:
1998
By purchasing the first level of ingredients (essences and such) pre-made:
5700
By purchasing the ingredients and making the essences and other first level ingredients:
7350
Cost of Charades Potion
By purchasing the potion:
333
By purchasing the first level of ingredients (essences and such) pre-made:
940
By purchasing the ingredients and making the essences and other first level ingredients:
816
Cost of Door Drink
By purchasing the drink:
700
By purchasing the first level of ingredients (essences and such) pre-made:
4000
By purchasing the ingredients and making the essences and other first level ingredients:
5156
Cost breakdown (each cost is based on purchasing that item directly from auction):
Item Unit/Total
Amorous Philtre 98/98
1X Essence of Purple 1500/1500
23X Purple flower 120/2760
2X Hooch 12/24
1X Tangy Sauce 110/110
1X Essence of SilverTongue 400/400
4X Sprig of SilverTonge 133/532
1X Hooch 12/12
3X Laughing Gas 18/18
3 General Vapour 6/54
Ancestral Spirits 1998/1998
2X Essence of Hairball 1200/2400
5X Hairball Flower 400/4000
1X Hooch 12/12
1X Essense of Rubeweed 2500/2500
5X Sprig of Rubeweed 450/2250
1X Hooch 12/12
2X Essence of Silvertongue 400/800
4X Sprig of Silvertonge 133/1064
1X Hooch 12/12
11X Guano ? probably cheapish
Charades Potion 333/333
1X Crying Gas 22/22
4X General Vapour 6/24
1X Essence of Yellow Crumb 900/900
6X Yellow Crumb Flowers 129/774
1X Hooch 12/12
1X Laughing Gas 18/18
3X General Vapour 6/18
Door Drink 700/700
1X Essence of Purple 1500/1500
23X Purple flower 120/2760
2X Hooch 12/24
1X Tangy Sauce 110/110
1X Essense of Rubeweed 2500/2500
5X Sprig of Rubeweed 450/2250
1X Hooch 12/12

Posted 12 months ago by Orange Jello | Permalink

### Replies

- You are basing your analysis on the period right after the new Potion Skills have been learned by a lot of people. People make the potions required by the quests and then dump them in the Auction to get rid of them, if the potion doesn't do anything they find interesting. Wait awhile for the prices to settle. People aren't creating potions to 'sell for a loss.' They are dumping junk in the auction that they don't want.
  Posted 12 months ago by Parrow Gnolle | Permalink
- There are lots of people looking to make potions for themselves. As long as potion making, not just the potions themselves, is in vogue, there will be more demand for the components than for the actual product.
  The upside down herb market, or at minimum the housing issues that help create it, will cease to be so glaring some time next year.
  Posted 12 months ago by Red Sauce | Permalink
- It is the Badge-lust, grasshopper.
  Posted 12 months ago by WalruZ | Permalink
- mmm nommy badges!
  Posted 12 months ago by Orange Jello | Permalink
- Ok that all makes sense, thank you! I knew there was some obvious thing I was missing there :)
  Posted 12 months ago by Orange Jello | Permalink
- Oh this is such a temporary phase....
  but then planting rubeweed was also a temporary phase now that dolls are so devalued
  Posted 12 months ago by Sonneratti's Ghost | Permalink
- Meh I see no indecation this is a tempeary price problem. Many times people in mmos will say oh this item is need for a new quest or feature don't worry the price will go down. In general I find this to be false once the price is up it doesn't always go down.
  Posted 12 months ago by koolaroo | Permalink