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Annoying

Im getting really annoyed and angry, you out there may be feeling the same but its really really annoying some of the older players on this game saying about Children ruine this game and that there should be a age limit. Well i do not Agree in this world there is good and bad (Kids & Adults) And same for Virtual             I want your opinions and what you think      I Aree or Disagree ?   

Posted 20 months ago by Big Mamma Subscriber! | Permalink

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  • Meh, as long as they don't cause a fuss (EG. SPARKLESHINE), and keep to testing instead of simply playing for the fun of it (at least leave feedback), I'm fine with them. Also, I wouldn't want the game's development to be based around what children will enjoy - always stay on the edge of what's suitable (eg. NoNo Powder, alcohol, Eglesgown Wanks).
    Posted 20 months ago by Hburger Subscriber! | Permalink
  • My opinion is that there is content in the game NOT appropriate for children, so, yes there should be an age limit.
    Posted 20 months ago by tweetypie Subscriber! | Permalink
  • hi GemGem
    who said children are ruining this game? It's not something I've come across. I suspect there are many young people playing.

    Just so you know, though - there is an (unofficial) age limit.  Or at least there have been several mentions by the creators of glitch that the game 'is not intended' for children.  I think mostly because it allows for more 'adult' humour in game, which many of us would be sad to lose.
    Posted 20 months ago by Wrendolin Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Wrendolin, I think GemGem might have been sparked by these comments: http://i.imgur.com/fsWuY.png
    Posted 20 months ago by Hburger Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I don't care how old any player is, but I wouldn't want some consensus notion of what is child-safe to be a design goal for the game.
    Posted 20 months ago by rothko Subscriber! | Permalink
  • No no not them comments but comments which were directed to me personly which i didint  agree with she couldent appect a apoligy i am 14 she was an adult she should of been able to take an apoligy from me but she didint. But staff reunshired me that there were plenty of other players in game not to worry he also said she couldent take an apoligy. :-) 
    Posted 20 months ago by Big Mamma Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I don't think they were meant to be harmful just a warning that parents should not be offended if younger players read "bad words/inferences" on anything related to the game since it does have those adult references.
    Posted 20 months ago by Gabi Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Everyone has their own opinions and thoughts and behaviors.  I agree that maybe some humor is not child oriented.  Also, there are some adult behaviors that parents may not want their children to be exposed to.  Parents should play with their children for a bit to see if they think this is a good game for them to play.  That is recommended for any game.  That said, I really don't care who plays as long as they behave well and are considerate of other players.
    Posted 20 months ago by Brib Annie Subscriber! | Permalink
  • +1 Well said, Annie
    Posted 20 months ago by GreyGoose Subscriber! | Permalink
  • +1 rothko Clinic activities aside , the adult humor and innuendo are what I love the most about it and catering to children would ruin the whole thing in my NSHO. I also feel it is the parents responsibility to know what their children are doing online, that being said an unsupervised child on the internet can get into things a lot worse than what goes on in here . Also it's hard to put a definitive age on the whole thing. When I was 15 I was on my own and running a trucking company and kids today grow up even faster. I know GemGem from FS and didn't even know she was only 14 so .... I believe mostly the problem the FSR's have with kids is based on what happened over there, perpetual beggars and pollution block stealers that flooded the game when they connected to FB.
    Posted 20 months ago by Divine~ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • my daoughter was playing with me and i was very surprized at this ladys behaviour   but to put things straight it has nothing at all to do with  Rascalmom or Piece Maker they have been most welcoming to me and my daughter thankyou :)
    Posted 20 months ago by lycan Subscriber! | Permalink
  • @GemGem Hi my daughter is 14. I have thought about her playing Glitch and whether it is age appropriate or not. I don't see anything in game play that is to offensive, but do wonder about nono powder Thinking about that and 14 make me suck my teeth lol  I think at 14 and a sensible gamer then that's ok at that age to play. But I really do think any younger than that un accompanied play is not to be recommended. It is not the game per say it is the social chat that makes me think 14 is right at the edge of expectable, possible not [sorry] :).  I think 13/14 year olds can be very mature and interact well with people of all ages. It's not about how you behave GemGem, some adults can be very immature. Its how other adults might behave that makes this game more aimed at older teens/adults. :)

     If I can pull the Mom card and yes your now rolling your eyes lol. Maybe not let people know your age while playing any game with strangers online. [ she's really Frowning now I can see lol ] :P

    edit to add I see you are playing along with your Mom so that's great. she can suck her teeth at you instead lol :)
    Posted 20 months ago by Misha Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Just in case, since they've been posted, to clarify about Divine~ and my comments: We said we hope no one is upset IF their child sees adult behaviors and comments during Glitch...because it IS recommended for older teens and up. I don't believe either of us said kids shouldn't necessarily be playing...we said we hope their parents won't be offended by adult content and comments, because that's the nature of the game. In other words, there's adult content and we aren't planning to censor ourselves. And thanks, lycan :)
    Posted 20 months ago by RM Subscriber! | Permalink
  • +1 RM , just so everyone is clear
    Posted 20 months ago by Divine~ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • There is definitely going to be an age limit, at least 13+. This is an adult game, and there is adult content. Period. Children can play by cheating around the age limit, but there's still age limit.
    Posted 20 months ago by Cupcake Subscriber! | Permalink
  • It makes me wonder why people are telling you 'children ruin' the game in the first place,just a thought.....
    Posted 20 months ago by Joos Subscriber! | Permalink
  • GemGem, the problem you face as a young player is that other players will assume you are an adult, as we can't tell from your avatar that you are not.  That also means that people will expect you to act and respond as an adult, and when you don't (as you're 14) that will irritate some people.  Things that are totally normal and okay for a 14 year old to do and say can seem really annoying when coming from an adult.

    Although most people are happy for younger players to join the game, you have to realise you're playing in an adult environment, and that means certain things.  Like several people have said, you may hear jokes or language that will be offensive to you, and players might be ruder or more abrupt with you than you're used to.  And, like you said yourself, 'in this world there is good and bad (Kids & Adults) '
    Playing in an adult game means you have to put up with the bad ones and not let yourself get too annoyed.
    Posted 20 months ago by Wrendolin Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I know some very mature 14 year olds, and I know some very immature 41 year olds. Age and maturity do not go hand in hand. The game is not designed for younger children. Should they be allowed to play? Sure, as long as their parent(s) take responsibility for allowing their children to be exposed to (gasp!) no-no powder and hooch. It's a game. It's for playing. I really, truly do not believe that drinking hooch in a game will result in a child become an alcoholic in real life. As long as every player remembers their pleases and thank yous, and doesn't take personal property (as in, in someone else's house) without permission, let them play. 
    Posted 20 months ago by Essie Kitten Subscriber! | Permalink
  • +1 sc803. Exactly.
    Posted 20 months ago by RM Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Depending on the definition of "children", this game might already have ruled them out. If this game is made available via Facebook, player younger than 13 years old is by terms of service, not legible to play.
    If the game is made "child-friendly", chat filters, parental controls, account setup approval by parents etc has to be setup in compliance with COPPA and there are many limitations on "advertising" defined by KARU. All in all making the game service expensive to run. It seems like Tinyspeck is not going for that demographic based on the absence of such options in account setup process.
    Posted 20 months ago by Goodhumanfood Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Speaking of advertisement... Glitch adline

    Glitch It's Not Your Childrens Game
    Posted 20 months ago by Divine~ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • 1) The game developers are making the game they want to create and if their demo isn't children, that's their choice and they are free to create adult humor and content as they see fit.

    2) If you want your child to play, then it is up to you as a parent to determine if the content in the game is appropriate or not (I am a parent myself speaking from experience... 6 boys).

    3) There doesn't need to be an age limit and there isn't anything wrong with Tiny Speck saying the game isn't intended for kids. That doesn't mean they can't play (see #3).


    4) In any MMO style game there will always be immature players despite age.


    So really, I don't see what the issue is so long as Tiny Speck keeps making the amazing game we've all been enjoying while staying true to their vision for the game.
    Posted 20 months ago by en Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I believe the issue is that a 14 year old was playing the game and was upset/ annoyed by an encounter she had with another player who may have said something to her about 'children ruining the game'.

    She was polling opinions about whether that's the general consensus amongst other players.
    Posted 20 months ago by Wrendolin Subscriber! | Permalink
  • +1 en Very well said.
    Posted 20 months ago by RM Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Well then, I speak for my self in saying I DISAGREE. Children playing Glitch so far, for me have NOT ruined MY game play :)
    Posted 20 months ago by Misha Subscriber! | Permalink
  • +1 Misha
    +1 En
    +1 World of Glitch!
    Posted 20 months ago by RainyRain Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Out of curiosity .... what does +1 mean, is that short for "I agree" or "thumbs up?"

    Anyway, I agree with all of en's key points. 

    But, do I think the content of this game is unsuitable for a 14 year old, no, not really. I see it more as a US PG13 rating, without violence. Do I think a 14 year old will ruin my gaming experience, no.
    Posted 20 months ago by Sadie the Goat Subscriber! | Permalink
  • This topic is probably why some people don't want kids in. Many people have kids and this is a nice, fun escape... and yet, here's young teen whining! You will NEVER escape the childrennnnnn!!! 
    That said, stay out of peoples way and be polite. That is a good rule for all to follow. Your age is your business, i agree with Rascalmom. Also, adults like to flirt and have fun so if someone starts to speak to you inappropriately you do need to speak up with a "Dude, sorry, i'm 14 and that's creepy" or something. It's tricky online because even in a wonderful place like Glitch there could be pedophiles so safety first honey bunny!
    Posted 20 months ago by Niknik Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I don't think bad behavior within the limits of the game should be banned.  I'm not talking about real world crimes.  I don't like several styles of play I've seen; but I don't think any player should be banned for playing in one of those styles.
    Posted 20 months ago by rothko Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I agree with most other posters on this. There should be an age limit because there are some things/people on this game/internet that children (under age 15 or so) should not be exposed to. I would also say that there are some 14 yo who are extremely mature and some 44 yo who are not. So on the "game ruining" topic it is an individual thing for me.
    Posted 20 months ago by Holly Waterfall Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I agree with the age limit on a general basis but I know I myself was a mature teen and am an immature adult (I hope this is in a good way) but I would like to feel free myself to take part in an adult-themed game in a way that is not at all taken to be predatory or trolly. I am looser in game than I am in RL because I am a very introverted person. I hope that other people feel this way as well. I can let my hair down and be a little crazy in here and I hope I am not offending any kids (or any kids' parents) by doing so. I'm sorry if you have been offended GemGem, but I know my friends and I just have your best interests at heart not to offend you AND your parents. Just as an aside, do they play as well?
    Posted 20 months ago by Mistress*of*Fishies Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I assume everyone is a minor until I find out otherwise, as you'd expect a grown man to do in a public place.
    Posted 20 months ago by Tingly Claus Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Now... let's be 'mature' and tell the rest of the story. Gem is referencing an encounter with ME. So here's the other half of it... and no, it has nothing to do with FS - I never played. I've spent the last few tests translating Glitch and have become friendly with the group. It has everything to do with Gem's immature playing style.

    On my street, I hosted a gathering (advertised in the FS Chat) so people could come swap emblems and music blocks, and gather up the spices and gems needed to get a trophy. Several people came to help set up, several people attended.

    Near the end, Gem (who lives on the street) arrives and immediately... without a word or question... starts grabbing everything in sight. Horrified I said something in Local Chat, but to no avail. Gem was bee-lining it home. Having emptied her bags she made a second trip. I sent a IM. At the beginning of the third trip I asked if she was going to give my stuff back in Local and started to get upset in IM... no answer. All the while I'm trying desperately to pick up everything as quick as humanly possible. At the same time, another Glitch was asking in Local Chat what all the stuff was. I explained, she said cool, and that was that. 

    As soon as my inventory was full, I ran for home. While sifting through my now chaotic inventory, I had a quick chat with one of the dev's, told them what was going on but I didn't want them to get involved. I would take it as a Lesson Learned and move forward. Meanwhile Gem is banging on the door wanting let in to 'give my stuff back'... nuh uhhh no friggin way am I letting someone I *know* has sticky fingers in my house and to leave it outside. Said she didn't want it to get stolen outside... Truth is MOST people are disinclined to touch something if it's sitting outside another player's front door. Gem's reasoning, she "thought they were presents from the dev's". One could argue a fully developed logical brain (read: adult) doesn't jump straight to that conclusion. Yes there are adults who behave badly, but the proportion vs. teens who behave this way is much, much smaller.

    After the ensuing argument (which I needed to hurry up and end because it was Gem's bedtime), where I pointed out that it was *this* type of charging-bull-in-a-china-shop grabby-mine-mine-mine behavior that ruins the game for others. I *DID* say there should be an age limit on Glitch and children like this should not be allowed. I've seen Gem do this stuff in the mines too, it *IS* this grabby crap that starts the 'my rock' and 'mining etiquette' debates. I even pointed out that Gem's behavior in the mines had previously screwed up a new player on a timed Quest (I led the new player to a quieter mining area). Enough was enough. I told Gem I'd be damned if I lift a finger to help down the road.

    Now, maybe it's a by-product of the easy come, easy go society we live in... but "I'm sorry" is not an apology in this case - it is *part* of an apology. As I told Gem, the apology will be accepted when the behavior changes.. that is the true apology. An apology doesn't have to be automatically accepted, and it is not a sign of immaturity to reject one when it is insufficient for the offense. Let's put that in perspective, is 'sorry' and a refund from a pickpocket enough of an apology? You might not call the police, but you sure wouldn't trust them again.

    I am not a mean person, nor an out for myself player. I tend to be generous to a fault, with my time, energy, items, money, and knowledge. Heck, I share my 'secrets' publicly as soon as I can and litter the world with random gifts. It's not the stuff I cared about, they were there for the asking. The key word there, ASKING (read: using your eyes, interacting, taking part in the social aspects of the game). The offense was given at the behavior.

    To her credit, Gem did leave everything, and then some, outside my door. I sifted through and pulled out the items I had intended to keep (spices, bubbles). She was honest and returned the Generic Bag she'd lifted, so I piled the things that were not mine to begin with, as well as the Music Blocks and some extra food into a Bigger Bag and left it outside her door.

     As for maturity, I didn't do the teenage thing and run out to every social format I could find and post/tweet/or update about it. I didn't demand a rewind, or my things back (at one point I told Gem to keep it all, I hope it was worth the gain). I blew off steam privately, took my lumps, adjusted my behavior, and moved forward.

    Fact, this incident means I will no longer be helping people on as large a scale as I originally planned. It has ruined that piece of it for future people, I won't be letting strangers in my home and I won't be helping other on the housing streets... guess you gotta get to know me before I'll truly help out now. Fact, I spent the entire rest of the test not helping others, instead I was getting rid of everything possible in preparations to move house.

    So, if my behavior was somehow immature... too bad. The most immature thing I think I've done is feel compelled to explain and defend my actions publicly. Don't like the language, thank you for once again proving my statement - kids shouldn't be allowed in Glitch, their immaturity ruins the environment. An adult can take 'damned' and 'crap' which is the strongest language I used. I treated her as I would have any adult. Don't like that you didn't get a warm-and-cuddly-it-will-be-okay-kiddo acceptance to your apology, don't play a grown-up's game.

    As a parent, I was sitting on both sides of the 'children debate'. I love the idea my tweenage boy is interested in sharing a game with me. I have parental reservations, but saw no issues with supervised play for the 12-15 ages. This whole episode cost me 6 hours of time and my kid the chance at playing until he is 16, and landed my voice firmly in the No Young Teens camp. Personal desires aside, it's not worth the impact to the world as a whole.
    Posted 20 months ago by Travinara Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Oh brother.  I dunno what happened, and I'm staying out of it, but here's my opinion on the OP.

    Very young children probably should be kept away from this game.  There's adult content and they shouldn't be exposed to it.  However I feel it's the parent's responsibility to determine what their child should and should not do.  Ideally, younger folks should be able to enjoy the game for being cute and playful, while the innuendo and such goes over their heads - it's there as a "Parental Bonus" you might say.

    It's immature people, of any age, that ruin games like these, in my opinion.  It's important to keep those kinds of people under control, regardless of age.
    Posted 20 months ago by Doc Oblongata Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I'm glad to hear both sides of the story.  I'm also (again) surprised by some assumptions I keep see coming up in the game, which ends in various levels of drama.

    It's a fact of the game that if an object is on the ground, it can be picked up by anyone.  Notes left on Bishop's Arch about not planting trees there get taken.  Piggy Feeders left on on streets where there are 30+ pigs get taken.  Stuff you drop because of whatever good reason you have are also subject to being taken.

    Now, this is useful at parties or on projects or for the sort of community event described above... but if you really want to make sure that stuff doesn't get misappropriated by someone in ways you didn't intend, then either don't drop the stuff on the ground or host a party within the confines of your home so that you can let in only people you've vetted to act without the boundaries you've drawn.  I don't see why a party couldn't be hosted privately to share the medals, gems, etc etc etc, and why this has to be either/or in that "people suck, so I'm not going to help ever again."

    Are there social norms we should strive for? Well, sure, I guess, but with no police to enforce any laws (well, in fact, there's not really a government for there to be laws, is there?) and shy of asking devs to start moderating player behaviour (a path I hope doesn't get taken*), we are left with the physics of the game to dictate behavior.


    Examples:
    - A dirt patch or a barnacle (with the exception of two ro more people hitting dig/scrape on that item simultaneously) cannot be harvested by more than one person at a time.  This is a game physic, so people either can act in consort to harvest these things or go it solo... and here 'solo' is taken to be a social taboo.
    - A rock can be mined by more than on person at a time.  This is a game physic, so people can either mine solo or mine together... yet here mining together (even though rocks regenerate) is a social taboo.


    Rather than bitching about either, use the game physics and either start splanking people with boards or soaking people with water if it's that troublesome.  Splanking costs them some mood.. so there's the makings of how to mold any social norms people would like to create.


    To assume that if someone is taking anything off the ground from someone else, then that 'thief' must be a tween is troublesome.  I disagree.  I think that when the floodgates open and the cheery little small world we've been accustomed to is blown apart by 10,000 new players and no Help channel to coordinate things (as it's not scalable), we're going to see a lot more people picking things up off the ground even if they are at another player's feet (or mining your rock or harvesting barnacles alone or planting trees on Bishop's Arch).. and many of those players will not be tweens.  They will just either not know the social norms, not care about the social norms, be selfish or whatever else it is**, but it's not going to be because they are 14, 41, or any other label we want to apply to people.


    So, while I lament both not being able to leave my real life door unlocked at night because I no longer live in a town of 50 but in a city of 500,000, so I will lament that I can't drop a bag on the ground for a moment on a public street in Glitch... but only in a romantic sort of lamentation.  Instead, I'll buy more bags or stop collecting things when I'm near capacity so that I'm not in a position to need to set something down in a public area, or will host private parties, or will resign myself to losing whatever I do set down.  It's a game (and it's alpha... with another reset out in our future somewhere).  


    I guess I'm just flummoxed as to why the 3 incidents I've witnessed of 'theft' are so large in emotion to people - the game physics dictate that anyone can pick up anything on the ground.... so why is it a surprise/tragedy when they do?


    * So.. staff intervening to mediate player issues seems like a bad idea to me because as players we are tasked to build this world of giant imagination and we are bounded by game physics.  If staff is expected to put players into an interrogation room to learn why they took something on the ground at someone's feet or on a public street or why they mined someone else's rock or scraped a barnacle alone... then how are we, as players, building this world?  How are staff supposed to be able to mediate something like that.. playing judge and jury when there are no social laws?  Who decides who is right and what moral code are they using?  I'd rather staff figure out some other way to build community than by policing the community with unwritten rules.


    ** It is not far-fetched to think that stuff on the ground was put there by devs.  You can find planks and turmeric and mild fecundity powder that spawn all by themselves on various streets... people discard bags and fruit and emblems and whatever all the time, all over the place... so why is it immature to think that a public street with emblems all over it exists for the taking?  Seems reasonable to me, in a Glitchian sort of way.


    At any rate, I don't really care the age of any player in this game, but irrational behavior does get to me.  And it's irrational to think that only tweens are going to be picking up stuff that they are physically able to pick up, even if there is some unwritten social norm demanding that they don't pick it up.  What is rational to think is that anyone needing or wanting stuff.. or simply anyone just curious... is going to pick up stuff, so perhaps playing with that in mind is a good idea.  We could be encouraging curiosity, but instead - lately - a lot of people are spoon-feeding players answers they could easily get by curiously clicking on things and berating those who are curious enough to pick stuff up off the ground. :/


    And yes, if you need to stereotype me, I'm 47 and somewhat cranky at times. Perhaps old, cantankerous people shouldn't play either.
    Posted 20 months ago by zeeberk Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I don't see what good comes from getting on the case of those who don't follow player-made-up rules.  It's nice if the rest comply, but I don't imagine that it's wrong to break those rules in the get-a-dev-involved sense as you were saying.  Getting on the case of the "thief" though, risking the wrath of devs.

    I've had piles with thousands of fruit, or was it juice, messed with in GNE.  About all I did was shrug and rebuild.  If I knew who took the stuff, I would have asked if they wanted to help make piles.  If there were thousands playing, I wouldn't have made the piles cuz it'd have been impossible.

    Must have taken me at least 9 minutes to type that and I'm zeeberk's senior by a year. :)
    Posted 20 months ago by Tingly Claus Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I am not one of meny words but speaking as gems mother all i will say is gemma pasted  ( the whole conversation that night to a staff member who then read it and which i also read i want myself and my daughter to enjoy this wonderfull game i you and  staff know what was said and by who and as far as i am concernd i am proud of my daughter for the way she behaved thankyou
    Posted 20 months ago by lycan Subscriber! | Permalink
  • What happened with this instance is all but a non-issue in the scope of the whole game.
    Posted 20 months ago by Tingly Claus Subscriber! | Permalink
  • My sentiments as well. It's a game, it's stuff. Not really a big deal. To be clear, I made no assumptions at Gem's age at the outset, or with the behavior. I had no clue of the age until well into the IM Gem said I "needed to hurry up because it is my bedtime". I did not get the dev's involved, and requested they stay out of it. I knew full well it was on a street, *I* accepted the results of my actions and moved on.

    I treated her exactly the way I would anyone else. I don't have to trust, I don't have to give, I don't have to help. Those are MY decisions. Sorry if the child in this case is offended and can not accept the consequences of her actions. Doesn't mean I have to change the consequence. The 'must be for me' without a word behavior will always offend me, and I'll refuse to help anyone who behaves that way... child or adult. Don't like it, nothing says you have to.

    If Gem turns out to be a decent and kind player, good for her. Honestly, my refusal to provide further assistance is truly of little consequence. She'll become capable enough on her own, grabby behavior and all. I've not asked for a censure, or ban, or even invited this drama... this posting was not of my origin. Not gonna convince me that I *must* be nice to everyone and like them all. Gem's landed herself on the Not List, big friggin whoop.
    Posted 20 months ago by Travinara Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I thought you approached the line with a toe or two, but that's about it.  Players don't have to like each other, but [speaking generally here since I don't think you did much if at all...] jumping on another player who was only playing the game sounds like a detriment to the business.

    I figure eventually yoinking will become rampant, all rocks will be shared, etc.  I expect we'll have groups that try to be a pain, too.  Buckle up!
    Posted 20 months ago by Tingly Claus Subscriber! | Permalink
  • In my perfect glitch world...there are only players with an age of 16 and up...but also no immature grown-ups or cranky players...no groups trying to ruin the game.....no rocks shared, but one big happy family, playing together :-) And yes I am 36 and a mum. Although my daughter likes to play too...I dont think that is a good idea. She is 10 (and a half) and I think for her are enough games to play. Let her wait! But that is my perfect world. I know that I am not realistic. But it would be great if Glitch can provide me this escape. If Glitch is going to be in the direction FaunaSphere was heading..I will surely think about leaving!
    Posted 20 months ago by Atlantis Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Wow, super drama!  I can understand how you feel Trav, I sometimes get hot under the collar too.  Maybe it was much more annoying because GemGem didn't respond to your messages til much to late. That would sure bother me.  But it took me awhile to figure out how to use chat, so that might have been an issue.  Many times, what seems to be bad behavior is only a misunderstanding.  On the other hand, a mature person (of any age) doesn't overreact if scolded. She/he takes a moment to consider the merits of the criticism and reacts appropriately...doesn't go public with it.  I agree, we'd all better get prepared to see the coziness of the game change when it goes public, because the new people wont know the customs of the land. As far as rock sharing, I can't see where thats a taboo.  It doesn't bother me at all if someone else starts working on a rock I'm harvesting, I don't feel I own the rocks, lol. I havent gotten to barnicle harvesting yet, so I don't know how that works. (But every comment is helpful, maybe I'll do a better job once I get there.) Please, lets everybody calm down and move on. Glitch is the most fun game I think I've ever played. Enjoy.  ^,^
    Posted 20 months ago by Phoebe Springback Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I know were steering off the topic heading so I will be quick. What has gone on with two players is their business and only theirs so im not getting involved :)

    In stead I am going to quote my husband, who has spent the last 17 years trying to tell me this [ it is sinking in slowly ]    "Do not judge how other people behave by your expiations" 
    doing so will only ever make YOU feel let down. :)
    Posted 20 months ago by Misha Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Yeah... drama... ;) 

    Is anything in Glitch really as bad or worse than what children come across on the Internet daily now...?
    Posted 20 months ago by Hburger Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I think in most social games you will always have one or two players,young or old,that are only on the game to purely 'wind' people up.As FS was a huge game i saw a lot of this and whatever you said to them politely ,you would just get a lot of abuse,which in the end made the game miserable for me and i stopped playing,because for me i'm a 40 something mum i just like to escape and have some 'FUN' in these games.So as this game is in it's early stages and the players on here are so wonderful,i just think before the game gets so big,maybe it's up to us to show new players how we like the game to be played,'nip it in the bud',so to speak..:)
    Posted 20 months ago by Joos Subscriber! | Permalink
  • A player "hosts a gathering" and makes up some rules for that gathering.
    Another player who enters the street violates those made-up rules.
    Rule-maker jumps on other player for breaking the made-up rules.
    Drama ensues. 

    Sounds like a lot of immaturity going around here. 

    If it is a bug that allows "strangers" to pick up objects dropped by other players, then the devs should fix the bug.

    If it is a part of the game that things on the ground can be picked up by anyone, then players who don't like that "rule" need to "share" in places that are only open to the "right" people. 

    This is an internet game.  We can expect that anyone who plays will only be limited by the designed-in rules.  Anything that is not forbidden is allowed.  Creative use of the limits often makes the game more interesting and leads development in a new direction. 

    Perhaps, if you want players around you to only use a limited sub-set of the game mechanics when they are near you, you could think about that when you choose the setting for your party. 
    Posted 20 months ago by WindBorn Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Thought was given to the location. I didn't want the whole world having free access to my house, nor did I want the chaos of having things on a public street. I accepted the stuff was gone. I don't think it's an uncommon courtesy to ask before taking something, both in games and real life. Sorry, but you go mad and take everything out of the supply closet at work without a word, you're gonna get bawled out by someone. To put it in terms the high schooler can understand... the football team leaves their uniforms scattered in the hall and you take em, you can expect to have your butt on a platter... or you nick the AV cart cause it got left in the hall, someone is going to raise a fuss - even if everything gets returned. Nature of the beast when you take.
    Posted 20 months ago by Travinara Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Well Said WindBorn +1 ThankYou. =)
    Posted 20 months ago by Big Mamma Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I don't really understand why both of you are so worked up over this.. it's a GAME. You don't always win- Travinara, your stuff got taken, big deal. It's a game. Gem, who cares if an "adult" dislikes you. Don't talk to them. It's only a game.

    To everyone who thinks this game is for "adults" only: Even though the devs have said there should be an age limit, even allowing people age 16+ is going to result in some of the behavior you're getting annoyed with. Honestly here, I think that this game was NOT designed for young teens, but I also think it was not designed for many of the middle middle-aged people who are the ones "complaining" (in statuses or in threads, chats, whatever) about the "children" here. Obviously there are going to be people of all ages here no matter what if you want to play (do you really think its that hard for someone under the age of 13 to enter an earlier birth year and claim they are 13?) so I think everyone just needs to chill and deal with it. Obviously Tiny Speck is doing something right if they can appeal to people in such a big age range.
    Posted 20 months ago by ganjaprincess Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I totally agree ganjaprincess, and have stated as much. Until this, I was undecided on the age topic. The whole thing has solidified my opinion on the matter. I am one of many, and no... I don't expect to 'always win'. I would have exchanged words with anyone who did the same thing, adult or child, and as stated I had no clue of Gem's age until Gem made it an issue. I told her to keep it, it's just stuff. 

    The 'worked up' is because I'm being portrayed in an odd light because I didn't accept the apology, and gave my firm opinion that Gem's style of play ruins it for others. Meh, think what you will, but it's only fair to out with the whole story. The behavior made perfect sense when Gem announced she was a minor. So did the repeated requests to be let in the house after being told no, and the demands I leave my house so she could go to bed. Only way to get it to stop was to block her. It was all handled in private and I *thought* that was the end of it, but no... it has to become a public issue. So yeah, I feel that's a stunning example of why young teens shouldn't be allowed. It's going to happen, there's no way around it, but I can still feel like they will be a detriment to the experience if allowed en masse.
    Posted 20 months ago by Travinara Subscriber! | Permalink
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