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I don't understand this whole unlearning thing.

I  don't understand how this unlearning thing works.  How am I supposed to pick what to unlearn?  If I unlearn something like say Grillin II, does that mean I can no longer grill anything?  Or does it just lessen how  well I do it/what bonuses I might get from it?  Why did I bother learning things to begin with if there's a limit of how much I can learn?  What is the point of it all?

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Posted 6 months ago by traveljojo Subscriber! | Permalink

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  • It makes learning other skills longer, like it could take WAY less time to learn Teleportation V first (if, it's not possible) than learning it as a last skill. You can buy Brain Capacity Cards that make it faster to learn other skills without the penalty from other skills, up to 60. 
    Posted 6 months ago by I Love You TS Subscriber! | Permalink
  • There isn't really a limit to how much you can learn; it's just that as you learn more skills, the time it takes to learn other skills grows longer. You don't have to unlearn anything at all if you don't want to. 

    If you unlearn a skill, you'll lose whatever benefits knowing that skill had given you. So if you unlearn Grilling II, you'll lose some of your grilling recipes. You'll still be able to use the grill, though, since you'd still have Grilling I.
    Posted 6 months ago by Millie Subscriber! | Permalink
  • The skill is just there for the badge. :)
    Posted 6 months ago by Janitch Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Let's say you don't care about getting good harvests from trees - you can unlearn all the arborology skills to speed up your learning of, say, Nudgery.

    Or, let's say you think that having piggies in your yard that can have access to feeders and meat collectors and getting good harvests from piggies/chickens/butterflies is just plain bad - you can unlearn all the Animal Kinship skills to speed up learning, say, Transcendental Radiation II.

    Conversely, let's say you learned a bunch of skills but forgot to learn ANY of the Better Learning skills. Now, your brain capacity makes it so that you cannot learn Furniture making in less than a hundred thousand lifetimes. You think, "Everything is terrible and nothing will ever be good again! Well, at least until I have that awesome doohickey to put in my house..." You could pause the billion year Furniture making learning process, unlearn several UNRELATED skills, then learn ALL the Better Learning skills! Afterwards, you could restart the Furniture Making learning. Then, you could (someday) make a doohickey of your very own!*

    *Note: I am not here to promote this, but it is what the unlearning tree is there for. Some folks have done this and been happy with the result**.

    **Notation about Note: I am not one of these folks. I has all teh skillz***.

    ***Notable Note about the Notation of Note: I like annotating things.
    Posted 6 months ago by foolbunny Subscriber! | Permalink
  • well, the thing is that your glitch brain is tiny, only able to learn a few skills. when you reach the limit, the time for new skills increases. but when that happens, you may already have tryed the benefits of that knowledge. if you want, you can unlearn the skills you don't use so often so that you can try new things sooner. if you want to be a specialist in something, you're right, you don't have to learn to unlearn right after you have learned, but Lem has a joke about unknowing things... hmm and what's the point of unlearn? yeah, why on Ur would you ever want to not know something?... so if you know how to unlearn and if unlearn is not usefull, well, unlearn unlearn...

    hmm ok, ok, i'm on my way, yeah...(laughing) poof!
    Posted 6 months ago by mira gaia maia Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I used to know what it was for but I un...  *throws self off cliff*
    Posted 6 months ago by Meromorphic Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Appreciates foolbunnies annotational approach.
    Posted 6 months ago by justpeace Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Foolbunny, Better Learning skills were replaced with upgrade cards quite a while back, so that particular example no longer applies.
    Posted 6 months ago by oscarette Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Note to self: oscarette is correct*.

    *By which I mean accurate.
    Posted 6 months ago by foolbunny Subscriber! | Permalink
  • It's hard to understand why the developers think it's a good idea, that's for sure. Terrible game mechanic.
    Posted 6 months ago by Black Francis Subscriber! | Permalink
  • point being the penalty will become larger for each skill learned so unlearning 1, gives you an achievement and 2, allows you to learn new skills, and there will be more, at a quicker rate. The aim of TS would be for people to specialize and trade more. The skill tree is reasonably attainable now, it may not be so in the future.
    Posted 6 months ago by jiva Subscriber! | Permalink
  • The "game mechanic" allows everyone to try out skills they might enjoy, but not get penalized for learning them, if in the future, they decide to specialize.  

    Personally, I'm a generalist, and am willing to pay an ever-increasing time penalty (so far).  But I can imagine in a year or so, wanting to prune the skills I don't use, so that I don't have a 6 month learning time for a skill I really want.
    Posted 6 months ago by WindBorn Subscriber! | Permalink
  • The game mechanic for learning penalty will almost certainly stay. Unlearning gives the player a way to undo learning a skill of little use to them as a means to lower their penalty, ostensibly to learn something useful faster.

    The alternative to unlearning is once you learn a skill you don't want you completely screwed, and the only way to get rid of it is to start a whole new toon.
    Posted 6 months ago by Sturminator i` Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I knew all the skills

    When we converted to iMg my learning penalty was 1200+%

    I bought all the cards and my learning penalty dropped to 639%

    But I have now unlearnt some skills I don't enjoy and only know 91 skills now. My learning penalty is now 354%

    So I'm now good to go for the next release of skills
    Posted 6 months ago by IrenicRhonda Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Unless you are a badge completionist, just forget about unlearning (unlearn unlearning?) and use the Academy page to set up your learning curriculum. Then do things, enjoy, sleep or whatever, and someday you'll be fully skilled without breaking a sweat.
    Posted 6 months ago by Ayzad Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Nudgery will be the last skill on the (current) skill tree that I have to learn to have them all. I decided a long time ago that I was going to have all the skills... It doesn't matter to me too much now that I have to wait 10 days or more for skills sometimes....

    I also have never cashed in favor points for help to speed up a skill... it just doesn't make sense to me... I have all the unlearning skills... but I have never used them
    Posted 6 months ago by dr kelly Subscriber! | Permalink