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Need more to do in the firebogs

I love the firebogs. I think they are beautiful and I love to wander around in them. However, I noticed there isn't a lot to do or interact with or get. 

When I go mining I can easily fill up multiple bags with rock and jewels in just an hour or two. I spent two hours in the firebogs yesterday and didn't even fill up one bag and I interacted with almost everything.

I noticed that the barnacles and whatnot don't give the same level of "prizes" (jewels) one would get mining... so I started to think about what we could get from interacting there and what else could be there to interact with. Here are my thoughts....

Extras from the firebogs 
Since we get jewels from mining, it would be cool if we could get something equally precious from the items in the bogs 
- Pearls 
- Ivory 
- Gold leaf 
- India ink

Animals
Frogs or Toads 
Give glue (think sticky frog tongue) If you pinch them, they give you warts (minus mood) 
Interaction: Leap over? Pat? Flip? (You flipped a frog!) 
Feed: honey (because they can then catch more flies with honey) or fruit

Silk worms or spiders 
Give silk or string 
Interaction: pet a spider or kiss a silk worm

(Not appropriate for a firebog, but I would love to see)
Sheep or alpaca or woolly mammoths (could be called Wooly Mammals)
Give wool
Interaction: Comb or stroke; Flatter (but then they would run away -- alpacas are shy)
Because alpacas are so shy, you would need to be very very still and they would have to approach you

And then, things I would like to make:
 - Lanterns -- from fireflies and bubbles 
 - Twinklelights --  from fireflies and spider silk and frog glue 
 - Weathervanes --  from giant emblems, ingots and frog glue 
 - Scarecrows --  from wheat and spider silk and carrots (for noses?) 
 - Whiskey --  from peat moss and grain (maybe this is already hooch?) 
 - Paper bags --  from paper and frog glue (it would be cool if they were brown paper bags) 
 - Flower headbands --  from herbs and spider silk and frog glue 
 - Jewelry -- make necklace from giant emblems or bog pearls, etc 
 - Windchimes -- from giant emblems, spider silk, frog glue 
 - Hammocks -- from spider silk and corn husks 
 - Welcome mats -- from corn (husks), spidersilk, frog glue 
 - Door wreaths -- herbs, wheat, silk, glue 
 - Blankets (from wooly mammal wool) 
 - Clothes 
 -- knit a toque from spider silk 
 -- paperbag dress 
 -- paper pirate hat 
 -- wool coat

Maybe you could make these things with a Super Crafter machine. :)

Hope it's okay I put all of this in one idea thread. Thanks for making Glitch so awesome, Tiny Speck! ;)

Posted 17 months ago by emdot Subscriber! | Permalink

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  • Might I say, Em, that I love your imagination! But you prolly knew that!
    Posted 17 months ago by Zenny Bo Benny Subscriber! | Permalink
  • wow, emmers, fantastic stuff.  I will never leave the firebog EVER if even half this stuff comes to pass.
    Posted 17 months ago by Nanookie Subscriber! | Permalink
  • xo zen and nanooks. ;)
    Posted 17 months ago by emdot Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I really have grown attached to the Firebogs too (especially Chakra Phool) and would like to see more content and zones.  I seem to recall one of the devs saying they did have plans to expand the Firebog regions more in the test before this; there do seem to be quite a few streets in Chakra Phool especially that look like good lead-ins to other zones.

    I really like the idea of getting pearls possibly from barnacles and digging up precious goods in the peat bogs, but I would also like more bogs, fireflies and barnacles in general.  More Firebog zones please :-)
    Posted 17 months ago by Blitz Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Chakra Phool is my favorite zone, but I just sold my house there because Ur is expanding away from it. Looks like it became the most remote and lonely place. I'd love to see new zones to the West and South of Chakra Phool, and some of emdot's great ideas for the bog implemented.
    Posted 17 months ago by Ximenez Subscriber! | Permalink
  • These are all great ideas, emdot! :)  I really like the Firebogs when I visit on my Firefly/Peat/Talc runs, especially Chakra Phool...it's just that there's nothing to do there (besides gathering project materials) that can't be done elsewhere, and project materials aren't enough to make me want to stay there.  The thing I love about Chakra Phool is the dark atmosphere combined with the lanterns...they remind me of a Chinese marketplace.  Why not have a mysterious market of sorts run in the center of the Chakra Phool pit?  (Although I'd really take anything that distinguishes the different parts of the Bogs from each other besides the subtle environmental clues and the Jethimadh Tower).  More areas connected to the Firebogs would also be a good idea: as Ximenez noted, the "Northern Continent" has exploded in growth, while the South hasn't grown or had anything added to them since alpha ended!

    The Bogs just really need to have something special about them (besides project resources) that will actually make people like me want to stay, and not just teleport in and out.  And the more people stay in the Bogs, the more people who'll want to stay as well (just as one of the Bogs' problems is how devoid of Glitches it is).

    Oh, and as for emdot's Wooly Mammals idea: why not put them in mountainous areas, like Groddle Heights, or parts of Alakol?  One more idea for promoting species diversity across our Ur! :D
    Posted 17 months ago by Jannisary Subscriber! | Permalink
  • what a great idea about a marketplace. what if in the marketplace you could sell the crafts? (but seriously -- just a market place in general with all kinds of crazy vendors would be so cool.)

    agreed about the lack of other glitches. in two hours i only came across two other glitches.
    Posted 17 months ago by emdot Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Ooo, I wasn't even thinking about that, emdot! And if they also allowed player shops in this imagined marketplace, I'm pretty sure the area would explode with people wanting to do business.  Not sure if it could get people to settle there, but it's a thought (and would simultaneously deal with the "player-run businesses" idea that's been floating around the Ideas forum in one form or another for months). 

    I just like the idea of mysterious vendors, mwahaha. :D  With a new version of the Rube traveling around, one that trades equally mysterious gifts for random items...
    Posted 17 months ago by Jannisary Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Windchimes is definitely my favourite suggestion - I have a few emblems that I only manage to keep under control by speeding up learning, but there's a few >5d skills which I think will increase my stash of emblems...
    Posted 16 months ago by arcturus Subscriber! | Permalink
  • As a show of support for the firebog, which I love, see my house!  Striatic made me this cool stitched up image of my digs:

    http://striatic.net/misc/glitch/nanookiepad.png
    Posted 16 months ago by Nanookie Subscriber! | Permalink
  • i love it! 
    Posted 16 months ago by emdot Subscriber! | Permalink
  • emdot!!!!  What a bunch of great ideas!!
    Posted 16 months ago by Pirate Apples Subscriber! | Permalink
  • nanookie, what do you mean by stitched up image? is your garden/basement really that big?
    Posted 16 months ago by sakmet Subscriber! | Permalink
  • @emdot - great point about how gathering returns are so much lower in the swamps. I would like to see more fireflies or bigger swarms for sure.

    Love the idea of other types of bonuses being awarded in the swamps, and would be fine if there was a way to stop receiving Musicblock bonuses once I have all the trophies.

    I want want want the lanterns and whiskey!

    And the Super Crafter Machine - it could be a Loom - it could also be a Kiln - and a tinter/shader for various items - depending on which interchangeable core you put inside.

    @Nanookie great shot by Striatic!

    go Firebogs!
    Posted 16 months ago by The Cat Face Subscriber! | Permalink
  • @sakmet, yes that is the size of my house...the firebog houses are pretty big~  

    striatic came to my house and took multiple screenshots and then stitched them together using a software application.  How he got himself out of the images, I have no idea.  Or maybe he used magic, entirely possible.

    You can actually get a similar image from the realty page of your own house...but it is the "unoccupied" version...I wanted one with all my stuff in it...plus you can see me waaaaay at the bottom in my own place.  LOVE IT.
    Posted 16 months ago by Nanookie Subscriber! | Permalink
  • great ideas. i've never liked the bogs until nanookie took me there. there's one edge street that's REALLY dark and lovely.

    i wish we could ahve some kind of special powder to speed up barnie growth :)
    Posted 16 months ago by greenkozi Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Like all ideas, but this one stands out to me...

    "Because alpacas are so shy, you would need to be very very still and they would have to approach you"

    I like it because... it would be neat to see more types of special ways to interact with things. They may not be immediately obvious and thus are something players have to figure-out. Each new area should have its own animals and its own ways of approaching them. 
    Posted 16 months ago by Mr. Dawgg Subscriber! | Permalink
  • How about a 'ghost' marketplace- a place in Chakra that frequently appears and disappears. Like the Rube. You hear a faint jingling, and a street spirit will lead you to a marketplace. Or maybe it's just how empty it is that gives my the shivers and make me think of ghosts when I go there, as well as the dark background. 
    PS: Stitching up a house? Ask RM, or brib. They used to do awesome whole sphere screenshots, entirely done by Paint. I sucked at them tho. I do know how to take yourself out of a pic: You use another shot to cover yourself.
    Posted 16 months ago by KitkatCat Subscriber! | Permalink
  • @Mr Dawgg:  YES.  
    Posted 16 months ago by Nanookie Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I wish there was a way to get a scraping bonus (like a harvest or mining bonus), but since there are currently no skills associated with barnacle scraping, not sure how that would be implemented. 

    Would like more to do in all locations as I thought about it...there really isn't much to do in most places other than harvest (be it tree, animal, or rock).   At least there is the tower in Jethimadh...

    But definitely agree that we need a ton more things to do with various resources which would involve a lot more skill sets...
    Posted 16 months ago by b3achy Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Awesome ideas
    Posted 16 months ago by Laurali Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Hmmmm. funny world where other people's avatars come visit and photograph your house.... :)
    Your pretend house....
    Anyway... I'd love a ghost marketplace....  You could get good deals, you could get robbed.... Maybe there's and economic connection with those jujus.....
    Posted 16 months ago by sakmet Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Hmmmm. funny world where other people's avatars come visit and photograph your house.... :)
    Your pretend house....
    Anyway... I'd love a ghost marketplace....  You could get good deals, you could get robbed.... Maybe there's and economic connection with those jujus.....
    Posted 16 months ago by sakmet Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Juju vendors sound good. As well as pickpockets.
    Posted 16 months ago by KitkatCat Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Juju vendors sound good. As well as pickpockets.
    Posted 16 months ago by KitkatCat Subscriber! | Permalink
  • juju's can't stand the humidity of the firebog, they need the arid plains of the nostalgia lands because in the firebogs, their jello filling gets all melty and runs.  And since they are upside-down jello cups, all their insides would run out around their little ankles, and they are already move a little too slowly...nope, you won't see jujus in the firebogs any time soon.

    The humidity of the firebog is excellent however, for a Glitch's smooth, muppety, feltlike complexion.  If that seems like a contradiction, well it is. ;D
    Posted 16 months ago by Nanookie Subscriber! | Permalink
  • the firebogs don't need more stuff.

    the mines don't have a lot of variety and yet they do fine.

    the issue with the firebogs is that the devs built out a relatively massive continent around some gameplay that wasn't particularly compelling or profitable.

    i don't know why they did this. presumably they had the art assets and the momentum and just went for it. they also built out the skill tree with fuel-making and engineering and block making. skills that are pretty much useless unless you engage in street building, which the vast, vast majority of players do not.

    presumably crystals and earth blocks will eventually become useful for something else one day, and the firebogs will start swarming with people.
    Posted 16 months ago by striatic Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Disagree only because, as I said, if I'm in Illmenskie (or even GH or Alakol) for a couple of hours, I can come back with a couple of bags full of stuff.

    Same amount of time in the FBs and I didn't even fill up half a bag.

    Also, I want pearls. :)
    Posted 16 months ago by emdot Subscriber! | Permalink