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Changes to Class Two Herb Seeds, Tinctures and Potions are now live

All of the changes have been made and are now live. The details (lots!) are below:

HERB SEEDS
The base cost of all Class Two herb seeds have been halved:
• Purple Flower Seed base cost reduced to 6 (was 12).
• Silvertongue Seed base cost reduced to 25 (was 50).
• Yellow Crumb Flower Seed base cost reduced to 33 (was 66).

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TINCTURES
The return on making tinctures, comparing the value of inputs (ingredients and energy) vs outputs, used to be 0% — there was just no profit in it! Tincture prices have now increased to bring the return to 25%.

Detailed changes below:

Essence of Gandlevery
Base cost increased to 181 (was 149)

Essence of Hairball
Base cost increased to 449 (was 367)

Essence of Rookswort
Base cost increased to 509 (was 409)

Essence of Rubeweed
Base cost increased to 383 (was 307)

Essence of Purple
Base cost increased to 491 (was 397)

Essence of Silvertongue
Base cost increased to 283 (was 227)

Essence of Yellow Crumb
Base cost increased to 541 (was 431)

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POTIONS
The return on making potions used to be around -10% (ie. the potions would be worth 10% less than the ingredients and energy that went into making them). Potion recipes have been updated to make potionmaking profitable, to an average return of about 25%.

Detailed changes below:

Amorous Philtre
Base cost increased to 750 (was 625)
Recipe change:
• 1 Essence of Silvertongue ingredient removed
• Energy cost changed to 45 (was 30)

Elixir of Avarice
Base cost increased to 1250 (was 1200)
Recipe change:
• 3 Helium required (was 9)
• 1 Krazy Salts (was 4)
• Energy cost changed to 60 (was 40)

Rainbow Juice
Recipe change:
• 3 Yellow Crumb Flowers ingredient removed
• 11 Blue Bubbles required (was 13)
• 11 Green Eggs (was 17)
• 13 Strawberries (was 23)
• 3 Orange Juices (was 7)

The Charades Potion
Recipe change:
• 1 Essence of Silvertongue required (was 1 Essence of Yellow Crumb)

Tree Poison
Base cost increased to 750 (was 550)
Recipe change:
• 1 Krazy Salts required (was 2)
• Energy cost changed to 30 (was 25)

Tree Poison Antidote
Base cost increased to 375 (was 275)
Recipe change:
• 5 Spriggase required (was 7)
• 1 Guano (was 3)
• Energy cost changed to 20 (was 15)

Ancestral Spirits
Base cost increased to 1850 (was 1500)
Recipe change:
• 11 Guano ingredient removed
• 1 Essence of Silvertongue required (was 2)
• Energy cost changed to 80 (was 55)

De-Embiggenifying Potion
Recipe change:
• 1 Essence of Purple required (was 2)
• 5 Helium (was 7)
• 11 Tiny Bubbles (was 13)

Door Drink
Base cost increased to 750 (was 650)
Recipe change:
• 1 of Essence of Gandlevery required (was 1 Essence of Purple)
• Energy cost changed to 40 (was 25)

Embiggenifying Potion
Recipe change:
• 1 Essence of Purple required (was 2)
• 3 Heavy Gas (was 5)

Keycutter Tonic
Recipe change:
• 1 Essence of Hairball ingredient removed
• 11 Tiny Bubbles required (was 35)

Potion of Animal Youth
Base cost increased to 1500 (was 1400)
Recipe change:
• 1 Essence of Purple required (was 2)
• 13 Blue Bubbles (was 32)
• 3 Guano (was 6)
• Energy cost changed to 60 (was 50)

Rook Balm
Base cost increased to 1000 (was 750)
Recipe change:
• 1 Essence of Gandlevery ingredient removed
• Energy cost changed to 45 (was 30)

Trantsformation Fluid
Base cost increased to 2500 (was 2250)
Recipe change:
• 2 Essences of Rookswort required (was 3)
• 1 Essence of Yellow Crumb (was 1)
• 2 Guano (was 3)
• Energy cost changed to 90 (was 75)

Draught of Giant Amicability
Base cost increased to 3011 (was 2511)
Recipe change:
• 2 Essences of Silvertongue required (was 3)
• 2 Essences of Yellow Crumb (was 3)
• 1 Essence of Rubeweed (was 2)
• Energy cost changed to 100 (was 80)

Dung-Kicker Drops
Base cost increased to 2200 (was 2000)
Recipe change:
• 1 Essence of Gandlevery required (was 1 Essence of Yellow Crumb)
• 5 Crying Gas (was 15)
• Energy cost changed to 80 (was 70)

Liquid Super-Hoe
Recipe change:
• 1 Essence of Rookswort required (was 2)
• 5 White Gas (was 9)
• 5 Hard Bubble (was 15)

Manyharvest Cordial
Recipe change:
• 2 Essences of Silvertongue required (was 3)
• 2 Essences of Rubeweed (was 4)
• 5 Helium (was 11)
• 11 Hard Bubbles (was 13)

Seed-Dibber Libation
Recipe change:
• 2 Essences of Gandlevery required (was 5)
• 2 Essences of Yellow Crumb (was 3)
• 5 Tiny Bubbles (was 11)
• 1 Heavy Gas (was 3)

Soak-All Solution
Recipe change:
• 3 Essences of Gandlevery required (was 5)
• 2 Essences of Silvertongue (was 4)
• 11 Blue Bubbles (was 13)
• 5 Crying Gas (was 10)

Posted 86 days ago by Mart Lume Subscriber! | Permalink

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  • I welcome these changes... because I liquidated stock in the morning before the changes went live :P

    Maybe soon the herb seeds will all have identical stack quantities ;)
    Posted 86 days ago by MarbhDamhsa Subscriber! | Permalink
  • *staples wrist to forehead* <overly melodramatic response>

    Seriously though, the heads up and thorough explanation this go round were greatly appreciated. Thank you.
    Posted 85 days ago by Fauxfire π Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Frankly, if you make your own hoe and soak solutions you can maintain a backyard of yellow crumb in about 5 minutes, and the output is worth about 25K.   That's not instant riches, but it's a steady little income considering the time spent.  
    Posted 85 days ago by WalruZ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • So I guess the favor went from 66 to 33 for Yellow Crumb.
    Posted 85 days ago by Osiris χ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • the price of yellow flowers sales went down since yesterday:
    http://www.glitchremote.com/#Economy:Yellow+Crumb+Flower/

    but the price of yellow flower *seeds* sales have the same price:
    http://www.glitchremote.com/#Economy:Yellow+Crumb+Flower+Seed/
    Posted 85 days ago by UXRoot Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Great job balancing everything out- I have a trivial suggestion, though. Requiring YC essence for Charades always made sense to me. Why? Charades is yellow. Besides, YC is knowledge-y, and so is Charades. If Charades if now made with Silvertongue instead of YC, can it be blue?
    Posted 85 days ago by Fernstream Subscriber! | Permalink
  • To be good at charades you have to be glib, thus, Silvertongue.    I totally agree that the old yellow charades potion should be retired in favor of a new blue charades potion.  I'm not just saying that because I have a few bags in a cabinet at home...
    Posted 85 days ago by WalruZ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • "That's a very long post.  please can you tell me what I'm supposed to get angry about? thanks!" -

    Holy crap!  Instantly added as a contact for this response, sc!
    Posted 85 days ago by Sloppy Ketchup Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Haha. :)
    Posted 85 days ago by shhexy corin Subscriber! | Permalink
  • There is a still disbalance in prices between essences and flowers, at least for yellow crumb.
    Today I have made 60 yellow essences which requiers 360 yellow crumbs (+60 hooches + energy+ time) and earned 26,796 currants.
    Then I have chucked same ammount of yellow crumbs and sold seeds. It gain me 26,455 currants.
    So why would anyone bother making essences which requier energy and hooch if they can just quickly sell seeds?
    Posted 84 days ago by ☆Spark☆ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • You do also get img from making the tinctures.
    Posted 84 days ago by Mount Aspen Subscriber! | Permalink
  • you might actually just want to USE the tinctures for something.  
    Posted 84 days ago by WalruZ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Unless you use them for potions it's not worth the effort and invesment that goes into essence.
    I'm talking from profit perspective here.
    Posted 84 days ago by ☆Spark☆ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I'm not entirely for this nerf. Or the upgrade card nerf. I wasn't really grinding for 60, I was just trying to lower learning times for skills :|. And I enjoy doing upgrade cards, lots of them. I'm not entirely behind this.
    Posted 84 days ago by Osiris χ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I know a few others mentioned it, but Rainbow Juice should still include some yellow.  Mustard or Cumin maybe?  And adding a single Purple Flower for an easy purple element would really make it complete.

    lem.to/p/cnRZ
    Posted 84 days ago by a lifted pixel Subscriber! | Permalink
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