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can we just settle this. family game or not?

i can't really find an official definition for what a family game is or not, but i mean, it's essentially the same as a 'family film' in regards to the use of language. so, while 'family game' doesn't have an objective definition (yet), 'family film' does. it's "a film genre that is designed to appeal to a variety of age groups and, thus, families." i think we all agree that the game appeals to many age groups. i suppose we could also agree that the game is PG-13 considering that a player must be 13 years or older to play (with parental consent). films typically are upgraded to PG-13 from PG when language is used sparingly (generally, less than 4 times) or the movie is especially violent. note that Glitch never uses language and is never violent, so the game really should be PG or even G. Certainly, it would be rated E for everyone with a disclaimer that they cannot control the content experienced online.  

ultimately though, the game has parallels with a family film that's rated PG-13. and as such, we shouldn't use language. 

thank you for your time.

(edit: ToS says 14 years or older, so I guess PG-14 would be more accurate.)

Posted 15 months ago by Mr. Dawgg Subscriber! | Permalink

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    Posted 15 months ago by Menoboo Subscriber! | Permalink
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    Posted 15 months ago by Menoboo Subscriber! | Permalink
  • @Innie Yes, I'd like to know as well! I'd posted right before and thought it was a fine post.
    Posted 15 months ago by Liza Throttlebottom Subscriber! | Permalink
  • happy!
    Posted 15 months ago by Menoboo Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Eliza,

    You are the one with an agenda. I don't get why you don't like me. But it's cool. I'm not upset with you for trying to parlay with me. I welcome it. The thing is that my point still stands. The word choice you are using is escalating something about civility and etiquette to something on the level of some government-issued censoring agenda. It's just not accurate. I'm sorry but it's not. As a person of words, you have to see that. 

    I agree about Club Penguin. It is definitely, 100% a kid's game. But my point, as I had to argue on page one, isn't that Club Penguin is anything like Glitch at all. The games themselves are different. But the point is that both game's ToS require people of the allowed age group to have parental permission.
    Posted 15 months ago by Mr. Dawgg Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I'm sure there are people who would prefer Glitch be free of...whatever. I would prefer to see more women in the sciences, decriminalization of marijuana, peace in the Middle East, and elimination of the Electoral College. But guess what? The world doesn't revolve around me & my whims.
    As for your claim of "societal norms," who's society are we looking to for the norms? We have people from many part of the world, from many different states, provinces, parishes, & neighborhoods playing, each with a different set of norms. The only "society" we can look to is the virtual society made up of worldwide Glitch players, and we have spoken en masse against you.
    Posted 15 months ago by YoYo Mama Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Whoo boy. Menoboo, we love you and all, but this style is grating on us just a bit if I'm interpreting the posts correctly! Are you quite finished? xD
    Posted 15 months ago by Liza Throttlebottom Subscriber! | Permalink
  • They are done!  I just wanted to get to page 4 so I can quit : )

    No more on this thread from me!!!
    Posted 15 months ago by Menoboo Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Tene,

    "And you think that this thread is going to help them decide?"

    I don't. 

    "As for their campaigns, I'm pretty sure it's all been decided. They're just waiting on the nitty gritty details and such, fine tuning and all. "

    I agree. There's still room for them to drop or rename some risqué elements. I don't think that they will, but it's feasible.

    "Nothing is going to change dramatically as that means a lot more work for them. "

    I agree. But the changes wouldn't have to be drastic.
    Posted 15 months ago by Mr. Dawgg Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Thank you! I do appreciate the lengthening factor though. :) I said a few hundred posts ago that I wanted to make it here!
    Posted 15 months ago by Liza Throttlebottom Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Hey, Mr. Dawgg. You usually take to these suggestions rather well. I posted some time back? Would you care to offer your opinion on what I've stated? I hope it's on topic enough for you. I spoke about how you might feel about the, admittedly unlikely, outcome where a badge was made for this thread?
    Posted 15 months ago by Liza Throttlebottom Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Mr. Dawgg, if they start removing those things (ability to not be censored, risqué names and elements, etc.) just because it offends you, how many others do you think will be upset by this and leave?

    If they dont remove change those risqué elements, or enforce the censors you want, would you leave?
    Posted 15 months ago by Innie✿, Obviously Subscriber! | Permalink
  • YoYo Mama,

    "I'm sure there are people who would prefer Glitch be free of...whatever. I would prefer to see more women in the sciences, decriminalization of marijuana, peace in the Middle East, and elimination of the Electoral College. But guess what? The world doesn't revolve around me & my whims."

    I agree on all of that. I can dream can't, I? We all can. 

    As for your claim of "societal norms," who's society are we looking to for the norms? We have people from many part of the world, from many different states, provinces, parishes, & neighborhoods playing, each with a different set of norms. "

    American is the one I'm going by. Midwest? Where I'm from? I don't know. Isn't it enough that there are people from any society that would prefer a cleaner public chat? 

    "The only "society" we can look to is the virtual society made up of worldwide Glitch players, and we have spoken en masse against you."

    Yes, and I don't get it, YoYo. Why are you guys so hellbent on thinking language is ok for global? I mean I don't get it. For me it's a matter of standards and professionalism. I guess you guys are not the typical NORPs.
    Posted 15 months ago by Mr. Dawgg Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Ya know... your arrogance astounds me. 
    I keep rewriting and rewriting what I want to say and it just boggles the mind that I have to actually say it. 

    so.. ya.. 

    any devs,, reading this and laughing your asses off at the rest of us trying to reason with him. 
    PLEASE FOR the LOVE OF TII LOCK THIS BLOODY THREAD!
    Posted 15 months ago by Tenebrae Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Innie,

    No no no. I actually don't consider no-no powder, beer, etc to be outof place in a family game. But, others might. The thing Tene and I were talking about was that they *might* remove them if they decide to focus their marketing strategy on a younger demographic.
    Posted 15 months ago by Mr. Dawgg Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Innie, I can answer your first question: He doesn't care if others are upset. He just wants everyone & everything he comes into contact with to conform to his rigid view of propriety. It doesn't matter how many other people are affected. He has made that abundantly clear.
    While I'm at it, let me take a stab at your 2nd question. i'm going to say, no. He won't leave b/c he gets too much perverse pleasure in telling us how vulgar we are because we say things like "shitty titfucker."
    Posted 15 months ago by YoYo Mama Subscriber! | Permalink
  • @ Mr. Dawgg: I don't dislike you.  I dislike the way you communicate.

    I especially dislike the way you are currently communicating with me.  You are twisting my use of real words that describe what you are asking people to do into some sort of attack on you personally.

    I am not attacking you.  I am not escalating anything.  You are escalating your thread, which asked a simple question (family game, yes or no) into one of "Let's all use civil and polite language all the time!" which is asking people to "watch their language (to use your words)," which, according to Merriam-Webster, is censoring objectionable* content.

    My frustration comes, not from you, and not even from the idea of censoring (which exists in some capacity in any location, I've admitted to self-censoring in situations where there are children, at work, etc.) but from your method of communicating, which is really more like, "I will beat you with my opinion until you agree!"  

    I, for one, refuse to agree.  I refuse to give into you, to give you the satisfaction of knowing that you managed to drive me away, or managed to make me alter any part of my language.  

    Do you know what I was known for in high school?  I was known for being the only person to actually use "SAT words" in everyday conversations. My use of "censor" and "agenda" are a reflection of my personality, and are words that fit what you are trying to accomplish with this thread, not a judgement on you, or a manner of escalating your actions into a government-style crackdown.  You are not that important.  You are not effecting any changes.  You will not cause TS to alter the nature or intended audience of the game.  By the way, if their intended audience is mature-minded people, then sure, an 8 year old could fit in, but chances are he won't be one who bitches and moans about the occasional use of the word "bitch" to connote "complaining way to effing much."

    Get over yourself, and get over it.  No one agrees that it is a "family" game.  No one wants to hear, "This is PUBLIC, watch your language!" especially when it is not public unless you have accepted the Terms of Service, which allows for some language.
    Posted 15 months ago by Eliza Thornybur Subscriber! | Permalink
  • We all agree: Glitch is not a family game.

    Most of us agree: We don't want Glitch to be a family game.

    I'm pretty sure stoot and the other Tiny Speckers won't change their mind and make Glitch a family game.

    All of which means: It's ok to use some "language" now, and it will be ok to use some "language" in the future.

    Are we done now?
    Posted 15 months ago by Ximenez Subscriber! | Permalink
  • @Ximenez I appreciate yours and Eliza's logical reasoning, but I don't think Dawgg will. Not to mock him or be cruel, but he seems to enjoy the argument too much to just take those claims at face value. As he's stated, he wants to continue to refine his argument until he IS able to convince us. Though I highly doubt that eventuality will ever come to pass.
    Posted 15 months ago by Liza Throttlebottom Subscriber! | Permalink
  • @Ximenez: I hope. This thread is cracking me up. And making me bang my head on the desk repeatedly in a semi-sarcastic manner. Both are good.
    Posted 15 months ago by jjbob Subscriber! | Permalink
  • YoYo Mama,

    That's not true. I'm very much a person who sees life through the lens that there are many right answers and that there is always gray area. I don't get why you guys think I'm overly stubborn. I'm quite open minded. 

    Do you guys even look at the first few comments on the first page? I was immediately mocked for no good reason at all. How is that fair. And yet you guys continue to assail me for no good reason at all. And you continue to do it.

    Eliza, 

    Actually Eliza, if you reread my first post. It concludes that we shouldn't use language in chat. The entire post ended with, because it's a family game (based on decent premises, not the best, I admit) that we shouldn't use language. While I didn't explicitly state it, not using language (and by extension crude discussions), is all about politeness and etiquette. So the discussion or point was never elevated. It was always about the use of language.

    "I, for one, refuse to agree.  I refuse to give into you, to give you the satisfaction of knowing that you managed to drive me away, or managed to make me alter any part of my language.  "

    If I came off as trying to beat you down with my opinion, I sincerely apologize. I just reiterate myself because you guys seem to not understand my perspective. Instead, you say I'm being unreasonable or illogical. Or whatever. 

    So, I do not want you to be driven away or to submit at all. This is my thread so I reply to everyone who replies to me. Simple as that. Also, I consider discussion good. You share your opinion, I share mine. We both move on knowing a bit more about one another. That's good. I try to adapt my ideas when others present new ideas to me. I feel I've done that. I did that in fact with you. I realized that the working definition I had needed to be adapted to include more requirements, for example. You convinced me of that.

    And you know what, I believed your first line for a while til I got to your last paragraph.

    "Get over yourself, and get over it. "

    I don't get it. But now you want me to submit to you? Eliza, I'm sorry, but I don't buy it. 
    Posted 15 months ago by Mr. Dawgg Subscriber! | Permalink
  • DaveJohn and jjbob, you're right. But sometimes you need to state the obvious once more just to check your own sanity.

    ETA: And yet another wall of text. :(
    Posted 15 months ago by Ximenez Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I WILL NOT SUBMIT! FAMILY GAME! YOU CAN'T MAKE ME BELIEVE!
    Posted 15 months ago by Capablanca Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Ximenez,

    Spot on. 

    (Though, I still contend they could change gears and market it to a younger crowd. Note that I do not want that or not. It's just a possibility.)
    Posted 15 months ago by Mr. Dawgg Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Mr. Dawgg 

    This is NOT your thread. 
    Yes, you may have started it. 
    But it is in a public forum. It belongs to all of us. 
    Do not be telling us what to say in it. Or it will derail again. I can pretty much guarantee it. 

    Good night. 
    Your logic is hurting me.. a lot. 

    o.O I got the 777th post.. WEEEEEE
    Posted 15 months ago by Tenebrae Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Thank you, Mr. Dawgg. I sincerely appreciate that you agree with my view, and that you said so.
    (Although I'd rather you didn't add your last statement, the one between parenthesis. Theoretically they could, yes. Theoretically anything is possible.)
    Posted 15 months ago by Ximenez Subscriber! | Permalink
  • hello!
    Posted 15 months ago by GiaTori Subscriber! | Permalink
  • @Ximenez If we had a sports odds-maker around he'd say the odds of Dawgg posting a rebuttal would be around 121:1. I'd say it'd be smart to put your currants on him making a response. 

    Not to be mean to Dawgg, as I don't want to be that person who's accused of making fun, but I think that's just the person he is. :)
    Posted 15 months ago by Liza Throttlebottom Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I almost woke up Hubby I laughed so hard at Dawgg"s last post. YOu're right, Dawggy. How could ANYONE get the impression that you're stubborn or not open minded?
    Posted 15 months ago by YoYo Mama Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I guess you're right again, DaveJohn. There was a start already, inside those parenthesis...
    Posted 15 months ago by Ximenez Subscriber! | Permalink
  • DaveJohn,

    I balled you with the group of mockers as well. After reading your posts, I probably wasn't wrong to.

    "Man, I'm impressed with the sheer number of responses this post has generated. 

    I feel like Mr. Dawgg is getting pretty severely counter-trolled though. He really needs someone on his side."

    This isn't a troll, so it can't be counter-trolled.

    "Okay, see! I knew it. ;P I know Mr. Dawgg is just incredibly mockable (he is) but having a new word we're supposed to use in chat every day just seems like such a wonderfully Glitchy thing to have."

    Yep.

    "Oooh, this thread has expanded even farther than it was before. Over a hundred new posts I believe. I’m actually fairly happy that we’ve moved the orchestra thread elsewhere. I was beginning to start feeling bad yanking Mr. Dawgg’s chain so hard. He received a lot of flak for alienating people so much. I don’t think he was entirely cognizant of how much his comments bothered some. "

    Probably feeling bad because you realized that I am a genuine person who is being mocked for bad reasons. But thanks for at least being somewhat considerate.

    "Anyway. :) I just wanted to add another post to this monolithic occurrence because I want to have contributed a lot just in case the badge has a qualification for exactly how much you participated. It might be like street projects. :P We’d have to be at the top five percentage wise. I find it a bit awkward that flask, who antagonized Mr. Dawgg quite a bit, would get the badge most likely."

    What I find the most interesting about flask, who I eventually just completely ignored, is that she is like me in that we both don't use foul language in public. Heck she's in a church group. Yet, she mocks me over and over again. I don't know. Doesn't make any sense. I'm sorry I'm the type of person who responds to people in his thread. 

    "I think Dawgg would be a bit peeved about that."

    Not really. I am never peeved, per se, when a thread is derailed. But as you can imagine, I prefer structure. I'm a really laid back guy, but I just seek order in things. If a thread derails, typically there is a mod to maintain it. But that is absent here. So I just am my own advocate, and I asked people very politely to stay on topic.

    Thanks DaveJohn.
    Posted 15 months ago by Mr. Dawgg Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Ximenez,

    Right. Anything is possible. But I feel it's feasible as well.

    edit
    I didn't mean to come off as sarcastic. I just wanted to devalue what I was saying by using parenthesis. Sorry if it came off that way. Thanks.
    Posted 15 months ago by Mr. Dawgg Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Tene,

    It actually is my thread because I started it and because no mods will moderate it. Who better to request a thread stay on topic than the person who started it?

    YoYo Mama,

    You'd get that impression because I'm not. I'm a really laid back guy. 
    Posted 15 months ago by Mr. Dawgg Subscriber! | Permalink
  • @ Mr. Dawgg:

    You are not offering any solid argument for everyone else altering their language.  Your original argument hinged on Glitch being a family game.  We've agreed: it is not a family game.  Good.

    So now, I will gladly listen if you offer a new reason.  I will try to poke holes in that reason if I see holes.  If you can give me one solid reason for why every single person playing Glitch should adapt (read: self-censor) their language to meet your individual standards of decency, I will agree with you about the language.  

    I'll start: In my mind, world, life, I feel that decency is not harming anyone.  Not harassing anyone.  Not talking down or condescending to anyone.  Not pretending that something is anything it's not.  It's about honestly, acceptance of others, and treating others with a minimum of respect (I feel that the community did give you respect, until you started to behave as if your personal opinion was the only valid one).  I feel that, when mostly populated with adults and adult-minded children, it is well within the realm of decency to curse.  There is a place in decent, adult conversation for certain words, and the use of curse words does not immediately make a conversation indecent.  Moreover, I feel that insisting that people adapt to your behavioral standards, when we are all adults, if far more impolite and indecent than someone using the word "fuck" in a sexual way.

    However, I will never agree that it is a family game or that people under the age of 14 should be allowed, and I will not quietly fade into the background on the subject of self-censoring to please just you, so find supporters or give me a damn good reason to agree with you.
    Posted 15 months ago by Eliza Thornybur Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Mr. Dawgg,

    I do apologize. I'd say I was rather firmly in the camp of the mockers at first. I originally thought you'd started the argument simply to get a rise out of those participating. I’ve since revised my opinion to be that we are simply on different sides of an argument.

    I assert my right to curse, within reason, in the public chat. So in that way I disagree with you. Telling you to fuck off in caps is not okay though. You aren’t just being a troll, you just come off that way because we don’t like the way you argue.

    That’s okay. We don’t have to like it. It’s not really alright for us to be mean to you though. So now I’m making an effort to be nicer. :)

    Fair?

    DaveJohn~
    Posted 15 months ago by Liza Throttlebottom Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Ximenez wrote: DaveJohn and jjbob, you're right. But sometimes you need to state the obvious once more just to check your own sanity.

    Just sometimes?? This thread is kinda getting out of control. Looks like we are getting closer and closer to an answer!!
    Posted 15 months ago by jjbob Subscriber! | Permalink
  • "Looks like we are getting closer and closer to an answer!!" (jjbob)

    I think we are close enough for this to be the perfect time to close the thread.
    Posted 15 months ago by Ximenez Subscriber! | Permalink
  • " (I feel that the community did give you respect, until you started to behave as if your personal opinion was the only valid one)."

    No. Read the first page. Not even Stewart gave me any respect. But there's quite a bit of back story to that. How can you really believe that the community gave me any respect. The first post I ever posted here (not this thread, but an older one), WindBorn rudely responded to me. And my crude rebuttal resulted in a hive swarm attack on me. I've never gained anything but the ire of this community. And I've done nothing wrong.

    "However, I will never agree that it is a family game or that people under the age of 14 should be allowed, and I will not quietly fade into the background on the subject of self-censoring to please just you, so find supporters or give me a damn good reason to agree with you."

    Here's my issue with this, Eliza. In your other post you said, " You are not that important.  You are not effecting any changes.  You will not cause TS to alter the nature or intended audience of the game. " So if you 'faded' away right now, you know that there would be no repercussions. Right? So fade away. It won't please me if you do so. It won't make me happy or affect me in any way. I just know that you're only replying to me because you know I'll reply. You said in your first line, "So now, I will gladly listen if you offer a new reason.  I will try to poke holes in that reason if I see holes." Which, normally, I'd be all on that. 

    I really like presenting ideas and having them dissected. The thing is, at this point, I've put all my ideas out there. You know what they are. You just want to corner me and try to break me down. That's all you really want to do. Why? I sincerely believe it's because you dislike me or as you say it, you dislike how I communicate. Which by all rights, I am to you how I communicate. But, I'm actually a pretty chill dude. I just like to post on message boards. I guess I come off as threatening to you guys or bull headed or illogical. I don't see it that way. I'm sorry you guys had to instantly judge me instead of get to know me.

    Thanks.
    Posted 15 months ago by Mr. Dawgg Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Yeah, but we'd need a dev for that, correct? We have not the power to lock our own threads. 

    Hey, Mr. Dawgg? Can you lock the thread? I don't make a lot myself, so I don't know if it's a creator thing.
    Posted 15 months ago by Liza Throttlebottom Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Maybe you are laid back in other areas, but the behavior you've exhibited here is the opposite of "laid-back." A laid-back person would have realized after, oh, say, 10 opposing posts that your premise was wrong & then left it alone. But, no, that's not what you did. Hell, by your own admission, that's not even how you started. You admitted that you started this whole discussion with an ulterior motive in mind. You beat down the original topic of family gaming (which you admitted was of no interest to you. When that tactic of manipulation didn't work, you moved the goalpost to "societal norms" and "standards & professionalism." Professionalism? Really? Oh, and your claims of being "open-minded?" Open-minded people recognize and appreciate that not everyone in the world thinks like they do, or has the same standards & values. Open-minded people LIKE the fact that not everyone on Earth is a typical NORP. Now you're trying to paint yourself the poor, misunderstood martyr. To that, I quote the great Dolly Parton & say, "get down off the cross, honey, 'cause somebody needs the wood!"
    Posted 15 months ago by YoYo Mama Subscriber! | Permalink
  • DaveJohn,

    No unfortunately. When I say 'my' thread I literally mean 'the thread I started.' It's a shortening of it.

    edit
    Read your other post.

    Thanks DaveJohn. And yes 100% Fair. Thank you. I appreciate your post.
    Posted 15 months ago by Mr. Dawgg Subscriber! | Permalink
  • DaveJohn, not even the "instigator" has the power to shut down a thread. Maybe a moderator is still reading this? Before it goes again to the ditch?
    Posted 15 months ago by Ximenez Subscriber! | Permalink
  • @Ximenez Like many of those originally involved I think the mods have left us. 

    Perhaps if it keeps going they shall return. They might be lurking this very moment and will make themselves known as soon as I post? Though I doubt it. xD
    Posted 15 months ago by Liza Throttlebottom Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Surely we're all mature enough to walk away from this thread now that the vast majority have concluded it's pretty much done. Do we really need a mod/dev to lock it for us?
    Posted 15 months ago by Xev Subscriber! | Permalink
  • @Xev You'd really hope so. xD However it's not like it's really over. People will always find something to respond to in everything that is said by everybody. The only reason this thing will die will be when the game opens and other threads are created that eventually drive this one to the bottom of the main page. Then it might be forgotten.
    Posted 15 months ago by Liza Throttlebottom Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I'm not. ;)
    Posted 15 months ago by YoYo Mama Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Not trying to be the snobby kid in class, so much as point out that I'd much rather let the devs do their thang than bug them with a thread like this... Just sayin'

    This has certainly been an entertaining diversion while we've been waiting for the game to open again, but now it's gone in about fifteen circles since its started. I think Mr. Dawgg has been thoroughly chastised. 

    Should this thread get to a point where it NEEDS to be closed, it's not going to reflect that well on the peeps involved.
    Posted 15 months ago by Xev Subscriber! | Permalink
  • YoYo Mama,

    " You admitted that you started this whole discussion with an ulterior motive in mind."

    When?

    There was no ulterior motive. The motive was clear in the first post. The entire thing about it being a family game or not was so that I could have good reason to state that we should avoid foul language in the public chat areas.

    "A laid-back person would have realized after, oh, say, 10 opposing posts that your premise was wrong & then left it alone. "

    Nah. I post on message boards all day. I'm not the least bit any laid back than I am on any other day. Sometimes I just read, and other times there are threads like this. Sometimes, I just post here and there. The reason this thread went on so long is because I tailored responses to individuals. Which I've already explained that I did that because I wanted them to understand my perspective and to let them know I understood theirs. I thought I was being polite.

    " You beat down the original topic of family gaming (which you admitted was of no interest to you.)"

    No. I didn't admit that it was of no interest to me. I'm actually still interested in it. But I do admit that it is no longer relevant to the discussion of language. I agree that we shouldn't call Glitch a family game.

    "When that tactic of manipulation didn't work, you moved the goalpost to "societal norms" and "standards & professionalism." Professionalism? Really? Oh, and your claims of being "open-minded?" Open-minded people recognize and appreciate that not everyone in the world thinks like they do, or has the same standards & values. Open-minded people LIKE the fact that not everyone on Earth is a typical NORP. Now you're trying to paint yourself the poor, misunderstood martyr. To that, I quote the great Dolly Parton & say, "get down off the cross, honey, 'cause somebody needs the wood!""

    No. No. I'm not painting myself as a martyr. I don't care if you guys mock me. I've been saying that all along, dude. I said it baffles me that none of you guys are getting reprimanded. On any other message board, you would be. Except for Pallas's for some reason they allow people to tell people to F OFF and mock and insult.

    I do like that there are many different types of people out there. But, I don't think that being polite infringes on that? Why would it? I don't think using language in public forums is appropriate. I never demanded anything. I just call people out on it. Why? No one is one way. Yeah, I'm laid-back. But I'm also confrontational at times. I pick my fights. This is one I feel pretty strongly about, sure. In GC, I"m going to call people out when they use language. I don't feel it's appropriate there. That doesn't make me suddenly a bigot or stubborn. It's just a value of mine. And I've said many times some language is ok. Read Ximenez's post. He was spot on about the conclusions of this thread.
    Posted 15 months ago by Mr. Dawgg Subscriber! | Permalink
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