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Many major sites going blackout for sopa (will glitch/tinyspeck?)

Now I'm not American and some of these sites that are going offline are affecting the whole world now I just wanted to no will glitch/tinyspeck be joining in?

If you don't no what I'm talking about read this
technolog.msnbc.msn.com/_ne...

And you can google sopa

Apparently the current list of sites blacking out is
Reddit
Wikipedia
AOL
eBay
Etsy
Facebook
Foursquare
Google
IAC
LinkedIn
Mozilla
OpenDNS
PayPal
Twitter
Yahoo!
Zynga

Now these are major companies that affect the whole Internet so just wanted to no if glitch/tinyspeck would be joining in too

Posted 11 months ago by Santa Clause Subscriber! | Permalink

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  • Well, I *am* American and I think doing an internet black out is just dumb. The WWW is more WORLD WIDE than it was more than a decade ago when the U.S. Congress first pulled this internet censorship bullshit, so it wasn't that big of a deal if a site went offline. Now, however, I think I will go crazy without having access to my most-visited sites, particularly Google and eBay. Seriously, internet. What the fuck?
    Posted 11 months ago by Tonya Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Umm it's not an indefinite amount of time it's till February but pipa is still going ahead as planned.
    Posted 11 months ago by Santa Clause Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Just because they are blacking out here in the US doesn't mean they have to black out world wide.
    SOPA suspended or otherwise I still think they should do it to prove a point,
    Posted 11 months ago by BlackWolf Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Mhmm wiki are only blacking out there English speaking sites
    Posted 11 months ago by Santa Clause Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Until February?  I thought it was just one day?
    Posted 11 months ago by Treesa Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Go Daddy only dropped their support as a PR thing, when they saw so many people jumping off them. Considering they helped WRITE SOPA, I still say eff them.

    Tonya - that's just the point. With SOPA and PIPA, it will affect *the world*. The sites going black is to prove a point, because at any moment if SOPA and/or PIPA goes into effect, Wikipedia could be sued, could be pulled offline in total over ONE image that is copyrighted.
    Posted 11 months ago by Pixieyelsraek Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Here is a list of who is going dark vs. supporting the campaign in other ways, such as Google, which will be highlighting the issue, probably with a link somewhere on the main search page.
    Posted 11 months ago by katlazam Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Ive just read up that google will have a link on its homepage but will not go dark or remove its google logo instead it will have a link
    Posted 11 months ago by Santa Clause Subscriber! | Permalink
  • TS? Will Glitch be down tomorrow?
    Posted 11 months ago by Lilith Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I just asked staff, and they said the site will not be dark.  So that's that!
    Posted 11 months ago by glum pudding Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I'm not sure that anybody here *really* expected the site to go dark, so I'm not sure I'd say that's that - I think it's been really great to see attention being brought to the issue here, so even just by failing to move the post to off-topic forum, I think they've helped with the campaign.  (On the other hand, maybe we will end up plagued by rooks today!  That would be like going dark!)

    For those still interested, and really you should be if you love internets!, here are a couple of links:

    The Super PIPA-SOPA Action/Info Flowchart Reference Guide
    (good if you're not sure whether you care)
    EFF page about the protests

    American Glitches, please consider learning more about this issue and contacting your representatives today to speak out in support of the internet.  Getting involved these days is a simple thing to do, and recent signs have indicated that it really is making a difference.  :)
    Posted 11 months ago by katlazam Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Other ideas for creative ways that TS could support the campaign without having the site go dark that help keep this post on-topic include:
    De-imaginators everywhere!
    Bureaucrocs on strike
    Trees speak out on the issue  

    Seriously though?  Lots and lots of rooks please.  :)
    Posted 11 months ago by katlazam Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I have heard that some glitchen are wearing black today...
    Posted 11 months ago by bludwaggie Subscriber! | Permalink
  • That's a very good thread, thank you for sharing all these valuable pieces of information, i especially like the links that you posted Katlazam!

    Edit, one more link (a short informative video):
    fightforthefuture.org/pipa
    Posted 11 months ago by Leïla Subscriber! | Permalink
  • yes, I blacked out my avatar this morning...

    and here's one final link for you, although there have been so many good links today.

    if you look at only one animated gif about sopa featuring oprah and jesus riding a jetski today, let it be this one:
    theoatmeal.com/sopa
    Posted 11 months ago by katlazam Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Minecraft is down! </3
    Posted 11 months ago by Messy Monster Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Going colorless and wearing a straitjacket today.
    Posted 11 months ago by Splendora Subscriber! | Permalink
  • The website Politico has early morning estimates at over 7000 websites participating in some way. I'd say that will get a lot of information to the masses.

    The backers of SOPA of course are calling this blackout irresponsible and grandstanding. I think it's sad when giving people information to better inform the masses is viewed as a bad thing.
    Posted 11 months ago by XD Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Google actually put a big black censor bar over their logo on their main search page.
    Posted 11 months ago by WindBorn Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I am not a backer of SOPA and I would call this blackout grandstanding.  Plus, all Google has really done is change the novelty logo bitmap on the top of their main page.  They do that all the time.  They don't have the guts to take their whole site down and face how 'the masses' would respond.
    Posted 11 months ago by Kalstept Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Kalstept - they do have a form allowing visitors to add their name to a petition against SOPA, so it's not just changing their logo. 

    In any case, it would be literally millions and millions of dollars of lost revenue for Google (a publicly traded company who is responsible to their shareholders) to shut their site down, even for a few hours.
    Posted 11 months ago by Knitomaton Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Yes.  Agreed.  Google would have to do something that actually impacted their bottom line to take a meaningful stand.  We're agreed on that, it appears.  So, uh, they're just grandstanding.  Like almost all the sites for which an actual blackout would impact them much at all.

    Though Google's bottom line actually would be impacted greatly by SOPA, so maybe it would be in their economic interest to actually shut their site down for awhile.  Most of the entities that mostly strongly oppose anything like SOPA are the web aggregators:  those who gather up and index the creative output of others.  All those irreplaceable books that Google has scanned, shredded and pulped in libraries, etc. and that they now act like they 'own' enough to sell advertising round the edges of pageviews of.

    There's no clear answer to the issue of online piracy that can fit on the silkscreened front of a tee-shirt.  People need something to chant, though, so here we are.
    Posted 11 months ago by Kalstept Subscriber! | Permalink
  • "They don't have the guts to take their whole site down and face how 'the masses' would respond"

    it would be pretty damn irresponsible of them if they did
    Posted 11 months ago by shhexy corin Subscriber! | Permalink
  • We seem to all be in agreement. So the big guys wave the flag and
    hope the little sites will carry their water for them.

    Same as it ever was.
    Posted 11 months ago by Kalstept Subscriber! | Permalink
  • @Kalstept: you do make excellent points. However, we all do what we can (or think we can). A tepid response is still better than none IMO. However, I did want to say that you pointed out some important considerations.
    Posted 11 months ago by Flowerry Pott Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I don't see any black bar over google.  Google.ca or google.com
    Posted 11 months ago by Treesa Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Treesa - it looks like this:  http://twitpic.com/88vsd6
    Posted 11 months ago by Knitomaton Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Ok I'm going to bring this back up

    Anyone who doesn't know what sopa is needs to find out

    Due to sopa, megaupload.com has been shut down the bill may not of been passed yet but there enabling the bits of the bill

    Watch out internet

    The Internet strikes back has been trending on twitter because of the hacking group anonymous

    I bet there thinking there giving this as revenge for protesting against the bills
    Posted 11 months ago by Santa Clause Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Yes, I’m a torrenter myself. I can't stand to wait months and months and have my shows cut to shit just because I live in the US and most of the shows I watch are from the UK. But I’m not about to say megaupload wasn't doing something illegal. They were. Just like Piratebay did, and that got shut down ages ago too. And the shutting down of megaupload is proof that the US doesn't need SOPA or PIPA to do what they claim these bills were intended for. I'm not saying I agree with the fact that it is illegal or not, but the point is, they did the crime they do the time.

    That was never what I was protesting. The original intentions of the bills became far, far away, and twisted by big corporations many times over until they were no longer just about file sharing.

    My problem has always been that these bills would put a serious danger towards LEGAL websites, and generally censor the internet as we know it. The fact that what one person on Comcast internet would see could be different than someone who used say Fios. The fact that sites like Wikipedia, or even IMDB could be shut down in total for one small image {rather than getting asked to take the image down}. The fact that small, new websites, could be shut down before they even start for things unproven!

    I don't want to say these are moot points either, just because SOPA & PIPA are basically dead now - because really, it is just stalled. It will be back. Zombies like this never really die. Keep aware people, agree or not but at least know what's going on. Fight for what's right! We did this time, and frankly, we won {for now}.

    ETA: edited my post for spelling, because i CRINGE at the use of "there" as "they are" santa!!!!!
    Posted 11 months ago by Pixieyelsraek Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I looked at the list of 'properties' that the Megaupload tycoons are probably going to forfeit and ceased to have much sympathy for them. "Following Dotcom’s arrest, at least part of his car collection was seized, including a Rolls-Royce Phantom Drophead Coupe, multiple Mercedes-Benz CLK DTMs, a Lamborghini LM002 SUV and a Maserati Gran Cabrio. "
    An outright criminal syndicate of pirates are supposed to be the poster child for anti-SOPA efforts?  Not hardly.  Wholesale pirate outfits give the SOPA advocates their excuse to ram through overkill measures that punish everybody.

    And crazy vigilante responses from folks like anonymous just undo the goodwill regarding the issue that is needed to defeat SOPA.  This is not the time to be adventurist wannabe revolutionaries, kiddies.
    Posted 11 months ago by Kalstept Subscriber! | Permalink
  • It's not just SOPA & PIPA and their replacements and their replacements' replacements, it's the general trend of increasing political control of computing in the widest sense. I'm very much opposed to SOPA & PIPA (because the balance between [freedoms impinged] and [benefit gained] is wrong) but I don't think we should avoid legislating over what people do with computers any more than we legislate over "what people do outdoors" or "while driving cars". Speculating on what kind of issues we'll be debating 20 years or so from now becomes much more complicated.

    I highly recommend Cory Doctorow's essay "Lockdown: The coming war on general-purpose computing" — some really great analogies which made things much clearer for me.
    Posted 11 months ago by stoot barfield Subscriber! | Permalink
  • +1 for your thoughts Stoot, and +1 for the most interesting essay. Much food for thought here. 
    Posted 11 months ago by welshcorgi Subscriber! | Permalink
  • +1 stoot indeed.
    Posted 11 months ago by Pixieyelsraek Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Hmm I'll have a read of that stoot and interesting analogy

    It wasn't mega uploads fault they got shut down they were legal, they were the 13th most popular website, they can't check every single file that people upload and if they saw a file that broke there laws they would remove it, but the smart people went and put stuff under differant names and caused mega upload problems
    Posted 11 months ago by Santa Clause Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I've got another update for you

    Google have now gone protesting mad

    They have blacked out there doodle search feature and have slowed there searches down 60%
    Posted 11 months ago by Santa Clause Subscriber! | Permalink
  • SOPA was never going to pass. It was a threat from the gov't to Yahoo, Google, et al who don't fund their campaigns. It's their way of saying pay up or we'll cut you off. They'll pay their respects and SOPA will never happen.
    Posted 11 months ago by Mr. Dawgg Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I read "Lock Down" and found it was well written, this said; I find that this all  appears so chaotic to me. I understand a need for SOPA and its regulations but this brings on so much confusion to an already complicated medium. Sopa in different languages means "soup" and thats what SOPA appears to me to be;  Alphabet Soup! : )
    Posted 11 months ago by Joy Subscriber! | Permalink
  • we won! Sopa is dead!
    Posted 11 months ago by arizoo Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I just thought i would leave this link right here.... www.techdirt.com/articles/2...

    BTW: Santa, you are delusional if you don't know what was actually happening with Mega upload, and i have neither the time nor want to explain it to you. Also, the megaupload takedown was in the works for a while, fwiw.
    Posted 11 months ago by Pixieyelsraek Subscriber! | Permalink
  • meh i dont use megaupload often but i could tell it wasnt there fault
    Posted 11 months ago by Santa Clause Subscriber! | Permalink
  • "their" *twitch twitch*
    Posted 11 months ago by Pixieyelsraek Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Re. megaupload: Apparently there are emails and chat logs indicating that they were keeping a delicate balance of banning just enough content to look legit, but without upsetting too many users...
    arstechnica.com/tech-policy...
    Posted 11 months ago by Vic Fontaine Subscriber! | Permalink
  • O.o very interesting read

    *twitch* there their there their*twitch*
    Posted 11 months ago by Santa Clause Subscriber! | Permalink
  • people freak about their/they're/there but few freak about effect/affect, further/farther, who/whom, alot/a lot, and a host of other mistakes. personally, i don't call people on any of them because i'm not a grammar/spelling nazi. i empathize with those who are and use the internet daily.

    more on topic, but pixieyalsraek thanks for that link. though we already know that. WOLF-PAC. let's get them. get money outof politics.
    Posted 11 months ago by Mr. Dawgg Subscriber! | Permalink
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