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If I give you a key...

Then I hope you abide to these "rules", although I have no say in what you can't and can do, follow them, and you can continue using the key.

1) Nothing on the ground is yours, nothing at all. If you need something, then tell me and I shall decide. A simple rule most people remember.

2) Don't ask for a key if I don't really know  you. Yep. Or anyone in that matter ^_^ . On the flip side, don't give a key to someone you don't know,  you don't have the obligation to, if they unfriend/block you, so be it.

3) You don't use an icon and not tithe it, clean up after yourself. Oh, and check if you have money before tithing... 

4) If you use a butterfly, sing to it. 

5) The cabinet isn't yours and I rather not have you search the contents of what is 'hidden'. When house upgrades are enacted, I hope a super lock can be bought, along with another cabinet. Or a split one...that has a spinning chamber, that doesn't need a spin animation lol...

6) You do not let anyone follow you and come to your my house and only let them in if their name has been confirmed with me. (Not sure if possible. And even if their on my friends list, it doesn't count.)

7) Don't move objects to somewhere annoying, that's terrible.

8) Don't put more animals in my house, if it didn't have any in the first place then sure.

9) Don't rename my animals for the sake of my convenience on whatever intentions you have.

10) Common sense, but don't touch meat collectors, butterfly milkers, etc. Same thing goes for the machines that I have since they use fuel cells you don't provide me with. 

11) Never leave ANYTHING that is edible near the piggies, move them somewhere... that includes herbs ^^

12) Leave your shoes on, I need the dirt.

13) If you nibble or use my animals and trees, pet and water and massage, etc.

This is more of a reminder than a ineffective rule set. And I currently don't have a problem with anyone.

What expectations do would you like your key holders to appreciate?

Posted 13 months ago by Rook Subscriber! | Permalink

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  • You forgot your policy on collectors. And plots. And possibly littering. :p
    Posted 13 months ago by Ellisande Subscriber! | Permalink
  • That to me counts on what's on the ground, but I'll update it.
    Posted 13 months ago by Rook Subscriber! | Permalink
  • To not walk around naked.
    That's my job.
    Posted 13 months ago by Volkov Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Fantastic Rook! Yea even having someone you know have a key is a little nerve racking lol
    Posted 13 months ago by Clone Subscriber! | Permalink
  • My own sense is that giving keys to someone is so that you have a bit of real life freedom of movement, (let's say you're going on a trip for a few days (or longer) ), and possibly some sort of sharing of resources like an in game business or similar guilding.

    It also has obvious benefit when moving one's household, since your helpers don't have to be online at exactly the same time as you

    So... I would expect that anyone I gave a key to would have a bigger reason not to violate common courtesy than simply stripping your home and perhaps facing the social stigma from the community at large for being a brazen thief, which could make being here a very uncomfortable arrangement for the thief, perhaps (although I don't know what official policy will/would/may/may-not develop) leading to more serious officious results for the offender...

    having said all that. I agree. (EDIT: in spirit if not in exact details) except where noted above. guild and shared in-game business is something else and has to be drawn by the parties, don't you agree? - likely extending the comity of friends to the occasional, friendly "I yanked a stack of < insert object >  cuz I was low and left this instead or will replace <insert timetable>" . Or I should say, those would be my guidelines anyway for anyone to whom I gave a key

    technically, while the key IS Carte blanche, it really isn't, when balanced on a human level.

    a final thought.great care should be taken when giving keys to someone. get to know them. from personal experience irl, trust must be earned and should never be given lightly.
    Posted 13 months ago by Woochi Subscriber! | Permalink
  • So long as you give keys only to decent trustworthy people, you really don't need to make a bunch of rules for them. I think most people understand that when you give them a key, basic common courtesy applies.

    Perhaps I am just over cautious, but I am only giving keys to the 3 people I trust.
    Posted 13 months ago by Melting Sky Subscriber! | Permalink
  • fair dos Melting sky. I agree wholeheartedly. (although I chattered quite a bit about rules m'self....lol)
    Posted 13 months ago by Woochi Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I have given it to 15/700.
    Posted 13 months ago by Rook Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Seriously I'd say all that applies to house guests too... 
    Posted 13 months ago by ♪♥~ Auren ~♥♪ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Unless you're staff, my partner or myself, you don't get a key. 
    I pretty much expect anyone else to understand that.
     
    Posted 13 months ago by Ebiler Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Wipe your feet before entering- that floor isn't going to clean itself!
    If you're going to harvest my pigs/trees, please pet/water them as needed
    Posted 13 months ago by Zurin Subscriber! | Permalink
  • @miso yes!

    @Ebiler hahaha

    @Zurin you have yourself a key. you forgot taking off your shoes. and updated
    Posted 13 months ago by Rook Subscriber! | Permalink
  • These are my "house rules" so to speak.
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    If you have a key then you are one of the very few that I trust to have one.

    - I trust that you won't take anything without asking first.
    - I trust that you won't move things around and that you will leave things just as you found them.
    - I trust that you will not rename my livestock, flood my yard with animals, poison my trees or take my vegetables.

    Don't worry about tending to anything in the garden unless I ask you to, it's one of the few things that I actually take care of while in game.
    You may pet, water and harvest from the trees (just don't clear my wood tree!) *
    You may pet, massage, squeeze, milk, and nibble the pets in the yard. *
    * Feel free to keep whatever random drops you find! (I'm still looking for a block that says "SWF" though. ;P)

    If you have anything that you wish to leave behind, just leave it in its own stack inside the house. If you are OCD enough and wish to put things away in their proper place, then more power to you.

    Enjoy your time here. :)

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    On that note, I don't know how often I'd go into my friends' places. I've already received two keys, but it feels awkward to be in someone else's space when they're not around or I don't really have any sort of purpose for visiting (especially if they were to just log in and I randomly happened to be there).
    Posted 13 months ago by Solana Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Yeah it does, the only reason I went to an off-liner was when I left something there, and had a crop to harvest.
    Posted 13 months ago by Rook Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I guess I view keys differently than others...I will only give the key to someone I trust completely...and therefore..."my rules" are...

    Feel free to use my collectors, nibble my piggies, milk my butterflies, squeeze my chickens.
    Feel free to harvest my trees, or my gardens.
    Feel free to anything in my cabinet, or on my floors, if you really need it.
    I gave you a key, so what is mine is yours since nothing is tied down!!

    I hope you will pet my piggies and sing to my butterflies. (I know you can't rename my animals, so not worried about that).
    I hope you will pet and water my trees.
    I hope you will replant my garden either with seeds you brought or seeds from the bag in my cabinet.
    I hope that when you get a chance, if you took something of value that you needed, you'll replace it if it was in my cabinet or on the ground.
    It's all called common courtesy...and since I gave you a key, it's what I hope you will do, as I will also do this for you if I have a key to your place.

    Just because someone gives me a key in game, doesn't mean they will get one to my place - nor does it mean that I'd necessarily use that key very often (unless they asked me to look after their stuff when they go on holiday/vacation). I also think of it as if you got a key to my RL home...I only give those to people I trust...and I don't have to state a lot of rules to them when they get a key...courteous behavior is implied in getting a key (and if they aren't courteous, then it's simple to just revoke the key).

    In other words, stating a lot of rules and expecting random players to 'obey' is senseless...use common sense in giving out keys, and don't grumble if they don't follow a long list of rules that you have arbitrarily tried to levy on them.  Expect that things will change when they've been there, and if you don't like it - revoke the key(s), and change it back.
    Posted 13 months ago by b3achy Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I have given 1 key away. And that is all I will ever give.

    On top of that, she can have anything she wants in my house :) I dont care if its on the floor, in my cabinet, etc.  Its all replaceable really.
    Posted 13 months ago by Innie✿, Obviously Subscriber! | Permalink
  • A good read.
    Posted 13 months ago by Rook Subscriber! | Permalink
  • The reason no one will ever get a key from me is :If there were some kind of game caused glitch and something was removed I dont need that kind of stress.Without ever giving anyone a key does not allow for any Mistakes.
    Posted 13 months ago by Jellybelly Baby Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Too many rules.
    Don't give your key out to anyone who won't respect your stuff, how about that rule?
    Giving someone a key and then giving them a link to this list is astonishingly arrogant.
    Posted 13 months ago by Wye Subscriber! | Permalink
  • My rule: Don't be a dick. 

    It pretty much covers it all. But, I don't have to tell folks that when I give them a key, because if they were one, they wouldn't have gotten the key (which, so far, is a mighty list of two people so my piggies will get fed while I'm away for the holiday). 

    I've had too many people over to count since I got my house. And sure, I'm around, but I can't always tell when they're peeking in my bags or at the stuff on the floor. But I haven't had to worry about it because, well, the same rule applies when I let you in. And out of all those folks who have come in, there was only one that broke the rule. I blocked him. That felt good. The others? I'd probably give them a key, but they don't need the stress of having it. 

    Seriously. I feel honored when folks trust me with a key to their house, but I really don't want it. I'll never use it... unless I know they're there (in which case I don't need it) or if we make arrangements for me to come feed their pigs while they're away (in which case, they can give it to me then). I really don't need to be feeling responsible for all this stuff and who knows who has access to it and what if something goes missing and I've never been in the house but am now suddenly a suspect. Too much. Really. Please, don't give me a key.
    Posted 13 months ago by Vera Strange Subscriber! | Permalink
  • @Wye, true indeed, I never gave anyone who I gave a key, a linky to this post.

    @Vera :) I barely use so many keys, but yeah.
    Posted 13 months ago by Rook Subscriber! | Permalink
  • What happens if you give me a key without asking me? I have no agreed to any of this list and yet you have given me a key. Mmmm. Seems like I have free reign to rampage your house, Rook. :)

    Of course I won't. But probably NOT a good idea giving keys to people without discussing it directly with them first.
    Posted 13 months ago by Lord Bacon-o Subscriber! | Permalink
  • If I give you a key it's because I trust you. My home is your home. ;)
    Posted 13 months ago by Enelyse Subscriber! | Permalink
  • +1 to @Innie 
    Only one key given away, with those same stipulations, although "don't be a dick" is a good, short rule, too.
    Posted 13 months ago by Lady Cailia Subscriber! | Permalink
  • If someone gives me a key I can certainly go by those conditions.
    Posted 13 months ago by Treesa Subscriber! | Permalink
  • @ LB-o That's true, I guess everyone has a different interpretation of a key.

    @Miss Cailia you can't assume, and can't nicely state all these rules off course, but it's not good to make assumptions of what people should expect...depends on what you want them to do, cuz the keys didn't come with limits, I mean, should I simply not use the keys?

    @Treesa, yeah not really hard to do, just makes you do less?
    Posted 13 months ago by Rook Subscriber! | Permalink
  • @ Vera Strange - thank you.  That is now my rule if I give out keys.  KISS.
    Posted 13 months ago by dmnddgs Subscriber! | Permalink
  • @Dmnddgs You kissed Vera Strage you used -10 energy.

    And a key ur way.
    Posted 13 months ago by Rook Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Oh, and I'm a bit confused why someone wouldn't want a key that's given to them... the key doesn't have a limit, I guess if they assumed that they could drop the key at my house....idk.

    Well, my point is, having a key that can be used for a limit of things is better than no key.
    Posted 13 months ago by Rook Subscriber! | Permalink
  • If you are not willing to give someone complete access to your stuff... THEN Y U GIVE KEY?
    Posted 13 months ago by monself Subscriber! | Permalink
  • lololol Rook - I look 4ward to mah knew quay!
    Posted 13 months ago by dmnddgs Subscriber! | Permalink
  • @monself, of course you have complete access, I just didn't want to be a jerk a not give any keys, I just decided to set some rules peeps could follow. When keys came out, I thought they would have limits with them, and of course others had their expectations... Now I also abide by, if I came up  with these rules, it would be obvious for me to the same over at your house...

    @dmnddgs hope you enjoyed your visit.
    Posted 13 months ago by Rook Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Thanks muchly Sir Rook!!!  You have an awesome house with so many items I had not seen before.  And thank you again for allowing me to interact with your Alph Icon.  This was first opportunity to see one up close (I hope I tithed correctly:).

    You are always welcome at my house.

    dd
    Posted 13 months ago by dmnddgs Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Thanks DD, saw that an hour or more ago..

    I just hope people understand I'm just a normal person who's not going to hunt you down or bark at you like the people at Ajaya and Neva Neva.

    I didn't hand people rules and all. I'm just offering my things without charge or for stuff in case of emergency and am stating how it can be kept so.

    Out of the people I gave a key to, I don't have my moon anymore, I only left a note then show that if it's not replaceable then please don't take it. OF COURSE a moon comes for cheap and is something I don't really have an attachment too, plus I got it for free. But my magna carta is this:

    Take something that's replaceable by the soundings of the game limited to vendors, if you take you place back to continue the cycle, I leave expensive stuff on the ground or things made from "hard work" and vendors, which I'm not so generous about is pretty much it. If you need something, leave something in its place or leave a note. I'm human, so of course I can understand...

    Basically, they keys give too much freedom IMO, and until they can be customisable I'll leave my house with limits to other people, and not be a jerk and limit my keys to like 1-2 people. There are 60+ people who have the keys to my house. So unless you can pull that off ...with people abiding something, then let me know. Of course if you don't care about what's in your house and just don't want people to be a jerk like Vera Strange said, that's another thing.

    A limited Key > No key.
    Posted 13 months ago by Rook Subscriber! | Permalink
  • +1 b3achy <3 I luvs ya muches! When I get back in game I will check out this key idea. I don't have a house yet though. :)
    Posted 13 months ago by Holly Waterfall Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Well, I'm not giving the keys to randoms, nice set of "rule" or whatever you want to call it :)
    Posted 13 months ago by Rook Subscriber! | Permalink