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Don't kill the subway!

When I discovered the Subway on Glitch I was ecstatic! I had to go to something called a Bureaucratic Hall and get my papers. It was the best feeling in the all of Ur, I felt unstoppable! 

I always imagined that someday the subway map would look more like [this.] And I would get to watch that too evolve and grow, as a component of this ever evolving and growing game. 

But now the Subway is going away, and I couldn't be more disappointed. I hope that this is not the last we see of public transportation, and that it is in fact being replaced with a more efficient mode of transportation. Perhaps this means that we are getting yet more areas to explore, and traversing the map will become yet more of a chore without teleportation.

I know changes are coming, and I'm ready for that. But please don't take public transportation away!

ETA: [Proof]

Posted 8 months ago by La Mariposa Subscriber! | Permalink

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  • I'm trying to be understanding too :)

    I didn't mean "the subway is about to be removed with no replacement" or "all subways will be eliminated from the game" (if I did, I would have said that). But, the current one-single-route implementation is too cumbersome. So, it will be changed at some point.

    You're sad/disappointed/upset/frustrated etc., at whatever you are assuming we're going to do. Not anything we've announced we're going to do, not anything that we've done and not, it sounds like, anything we are planning to do.
    Posted 8 months ago by stoot barfield Subscriber! | Permalink
  • There is no word whatsoever from staff that they will be replaced Fernstream. That'd part of the issue here. All we know is that subways are going away, no explanation.

    ETA: I spoke 48 seconds too soon!!
    Posted 8 months ago by La Mariposa Subscriber! | Permalink
  • srry, i havent been 2 forum 4 2 long, what's happening?
    Posted 8 months ago by Control Freak4221 Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Thank you for the update (and your seemingly never-ending patience) stoot. :)
    Posted 8 months ago by Quibba Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Saucelah, who are you talking to?  Who is having this panic attack?  Who is offended?  It seems like are are arguing with an imaginary person and thereby creating people to argue with.

    Again, what is wrong with saying, "I like subways so I would be sorry to see them go, and if they go I hope they are replaced by some other form of transit."  It would be very hard to argue that subways are a critical piece of the game and that the game would be ruined without them.  But no one has tried to argue that at all.
    Posted 8 months ago by Humbabella Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Thank you stoot for finally giving more of an explanation.
    Posted 8 months ago by Innie✿, Obviously Subscriber! | Permalink
  • 315th visit and you can't tell me to stop now! AHAHAHAH!!
    *mind completely lost
    Posted 8 months ago by Cirnots Subscriber! | Permalink
  • can someone tell me what is going on???!!!!!!???
    Posted 8 months ago by Control Freak4221 Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Psssssttt.... Change is a good thing!
    Posted 8 months ago by Rev. Lightbringer Subscriber! | Permalink
  • So is the great subway panic of 2012 over now?
    Posted 8 months ago by Yggdrasil Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Hopefully soon to be replaced by the Great I-Want-A-Pony Hope of 2012. 
    Posted 8 months ago by Aviatrix Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Well, if nothing else, the devs know we still like the subway.  That we promise to pet it, and feed it, and water it and take it for walks.  :)
    Posted 8 months ago by Tibbi Subscriber! | Permalink
  • @Aviatrix I already am one...
    Posted 8 months ago by Cirnots Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I used to play a game called Puzzle Pirates, and on the forum, there was a term used to describe this sort of OMGWTFBBQ panic -- HWFO, Hand Waving Freak Outery. I think we Glitchens need to adopt that terminology.

    However, I still want my subway badges, so I guess I'll be hopping on and off ad nauseum now that stoot has gotten everyone all riled up about things!
    Posted 8 months ago by Tonya Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I think there is a phrase in use already... First Ur Problems (FUP)
    Posted 8 months ago by Rev. Lightbringer Subscriber! | Permalink
  • + 10 Sturminator 5  and we aren't even live

    + 20 Stoot   Thanks for still taking your time to comment
    Posted 8 months ago by Mystbecky Subscriber! | Permalink
  • @Stoot: Please do not confine yourself to formal channels.  It's better this way when you're interactive.
    @Sauce: Of course we read you. But it is a bit ungentlemanly for a public figure like you to comment on their own Ur-fame.  Play it closer to the vest, perhaps?  
    @Those who are expressing dismay: It's a bit much to pin all this angst on a single sentence, now isn't it?
    @Those who are enjoying the many changes: Me too!

    And finally:
    @Devs: Tuesday was an amazingly sweet value release. Kudos, and your adult beverage of choice are due you. I raced home, and settled in for 4 hours of blissful play.  Great job!

    Finally, some pretty pictures of abandoned subways. And subways under construction.
    Posted 8 months ago by CrashTestPilot Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Tonya, I totally remember HWFO on Puzzle Pirates forums. Oh noooooo they're changing shipwrightery, aaaaaaacckkk zombies are ruining everything, hyperveeeeentilaaaate treasure hunts!!!
    Posted 8 months ago by dm Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Ha, public figure.  I suppose that's one way to look at it.  I'd hope if that were the case, less people would wonder why I post what I post when I post it.  

    I'd probably go with whore pandering to his audience, but public figure works. 

    Anyway, @someone above whose name I couldn't be bothered to check, reread this thread and the other one.  Plenty of posts that fit my description and not yours. 

    And yes, there is something wrong with saying "I like the subways and would hate to see them go" when you don't know why they are going, if they are being replaced with something, if they would even make any sense or serve any purpose after the game is done with its revisions.  All you have to do is look at the number of people posting in this thread, talking about the issues in status updates, and talking about it in group chats in game to realize that making a mountain out of a molehill when you don't know if there is a mountain or a molehill is a bad idea that sends communities into a frenzy.  And then there's the whole bit I pointed out that stoot will simply stop saying anything, which seems to have already happened.  Good job!
    Posted 8 months ago by Red Sauce Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Subways are passages to the underground.  The devil lives underground. Subways are the devil. 

    KILL THE DEVIL OR YOU DON'T LOVE JESUS.
    Posted 8 months ago by BACON IS MEH Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Sauchelah, please just let it go. If you want to make it personal then feel free to contact me in game and we can talk about things one-to-one.
    Posted 8 months ago by La Mariposa Subscriber! | Permalink
  • If you want to single yourself out, feel free.  But it's certainly not personal to me.  

    More of a lifelong mission to *headdesk* at human absurdity.   As I said to someone today, sometimes, I just feel the need to shout "be rational and reasonable!" at irrational and unreasonable people.  

    But let it go?  That would probably require a lobotomy.  
    Posted 8 months ago by Red Sauce Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I, for one, hope that the changes to the subway system are that it becomes more useful... I still use it a fair amount, and often sit aboard a train when I'm talking to somebody. Besides, it's super-useful for new players, as others have stated. 
    Posted 8 months ago by Djabriil Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I'm not singling myself out, I'm the OP of this thread, so I am taking your comments as a personal attack. I'll bear the responsibility of the negative comments.

    Again, I reiterate: if you have something to say to me, or would like to call me out for not being rational or reasonable or absurd in any way, feel free to take it up with me personally.
    Posted 8 months ago by La Mariposa Subscriber! | Permalink
  • @Crashtestpilot, those photos are FANTASTIC.  Thanks for sharing!

    I love the sound effects of the subways in Ur.  I grew up around RL subways, and that rhythmic thunk-thunk, thunk-thunk is one of my favourite urban sounds.

    But art imitates life:  it's an antiquated system that hasn't really caught up with the population boom/Ur-ban sprawl, and it badly badly needs to be reworked.  Let's hope that the Glitch devs deal with this better than real-world city planners have done :)
    Posted 8 months ago by Pale Queen Subscriber! | Permalink
  • "I'm not singling myself out . . .  I am taking your comments as a personal attack"  

    One of these things is not like the other.  

    Anyway, if you want to IM me to tell me you think I'm a big snarky meanie, feel free.  I am snarky.  Though many, including Crash above, have been surprised to learn that I'm not actually a meanie.  I'm deep like that.  

    Look, how I feel about your post is not equal to how I feel about you as a person.  I get that some people don't separate the two, but I'm perfectly capable of thinking someone's idea or concern is absurd while not having any opinion about her on a personal level.  You might make a post tomorrow, and I might end up passing the link around because I dig it.  I haven't eliminated that possibility just because I think this thread was a horrible idea.  For what it's worth, I often tell good friends their ideas are absurd -- many even seek me out for that honesty.

    I think this post was absurd.  I don't think any good has, can, or will come from it, and I think plenty of negative has come from it.  I think I have the right to hang out in any thread and say "stop being ridiculous" -- and I think you have the right to completely ignore me.  

    But arguing that I can't post my opinion as it contradicts the OP, arguing that I can't claim a thread is bad for the community, arguing that I can't respond to others that direct responses at me: not going to fly.  
    Posted 8 months ago by Red Sauce Subscriber! | Permalink
  • FYI:  If you propose an idea, and take feedback as a personal attack, you are going to have a bad time.

    I get my stuff shot down somewhat infrequently; but I've never taken it personally.

    It's about the IDEA.  We are discussing ideas.  If we don't like the idea that you came up with, it doesn't mean you are not going to have better ideas in future.

    This is how good ideas get better.  Iterate; take feedback; iterate again; take feedback; get a mass of people on your side, and watch it take off.

    Ideas. They are, at the end of the day, software.
    Software comes with both bugs and features.
    Posted 8 months ago by CrashTestPilot Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Let's all make an effort to be more understanding and respectful! But, let's do it in all other threads going forward and just put this one behind us.
    Posted 8 months ago by stoot barfield Subscriber! | Permalink
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