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#### Wowza! Love the new tree super harvests!

It may be only 5 grain per chicken squeeze (although stoot says we'll soon be loving sqeezing chickens), but the tree harvests are fantastic with the super harvest update. I get 48 on nearly every harvest. A single pass through ix netted 12 full stacks of spice and a partial pass through groddle forest (not even hitting the gravy streets on the south) gave me 13 stacks of beans. As a dedicated awesome stew maker, I used to find it somewhat tedious to keep up these supplies, but now it's pure joy!

Posted 7 months ago by Hawkwell | Permalink

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- More upgrade cards will come in the future.
  But, think on this for a moment: it would take a few keystrokes to give you 100,000,000,000 eggs or cherries or gas per harvest. Would this make the game better? More fun?
  Posted 7 months ago by stoot barfield | Permalink
- No stoot, I feel like I have been ripped off, honestly. Yes, I agree, it was broken with the super harvest all the time. But this is about 1/4th of what we were getting before the switch to iMG.
  To maxed on skills, and have all the cards.......this isnt right.
  Posted 7 months ago by Innie✿, Obviously | Permalink
- in order to get 100,000,000,000 per harvest, we would need that much inventory space.
  I'm willing to be a guinea pig on this :)
  Posted 7 months ago by bored no more | Permalink
- Before iMG, super harvest rate with gardening 5 was about ... i dunno... 15% at least? I got super harvests pretty frequently.
  Now it feels like 5% even with the upgrades.
  EDIT: Just read stoot's even earlier reply that I missed. So it IS supposed to be about 5%.
  Posted 7 months ago by Lorraine ♪ | Permalink
- If there's a psychological sense of getting more stuff by seeing more Super Harvest animations, maybe the bonuses can be reduced and Super Harvest frequency increased, while keeping the same overall output.
  Posted 7 months ago by TomC | Permalink
- I will also say, I have been harvesting only bean trees to keep it accurate.
  Now up to 73 trees, only 5 super harvests. Yes, the 36 beans is nice and all, but the rate is still much much lower than it was a week ago.
  That means I have received 180 extra beans. Before I would have had a super harvest around every 3rd tree. So, out of 73 trees that would be around 20 super harvests. That would give me 480 extra beans.
  So Tom, even that math does not equate correctly.
  Posted 7 months ago by Innie✿, Obviously | Permalink
- I would actually prefer the opposite, Tom, I don't really need the rainbow every three seconds. xD An increase in output is the part I would be gunning for, it doesn't have to be a 300% increase like it was during the bugged stage, but even paying additional iMG for future output increases is definitely appealing.
  Posted 7 months ago by Misanthrope | Permalink
- " No stoot, I feel like I have been ripped off, honestly. Yes, I agree, it was broken with the super harvest all the time. But this is about 1/4th of what we were getting before the switch to iMG.To maxed on skills, and have all the cards.......this isnt right."
  ^ This. QFT.
  Especially for people who can't get on and play 24/7 .. it's really unfair to make stuff so much harder to accomplish. Like for instance having to play all the time to get enough imagination to buy the upgrade cards for things we had when we got the skills. And then enough time to be on every game day to re-deal the cards to try to get a chance at getting back what we had before. This seems like just a really poorly thought out decision on TS's part. :( In some ways I really like the iMG switch and all that came with it but in a LOT of ways I really really don't.
  Posted 7 months ago by ♪♥~ Auren ~♥♪ | Permalink
- Buttercup: get the Beanier Harvest upgrade. Then you'll get 48 on each harvest.
  Misanthrope: that's exactly what we did.
  Posted 7 months ago by stoot barfield | Permalink
- Even if I was getting 48.....the numbers would not be working out, stoot.
  So, to be fair, I will go harvest all spice and see what happens.
  Posted 7 months ago by Innie✿, Obviously | Permalink
- Stoot. That is not correct. Before we didn't get x2 harvest. We got x3. We got 12 with the original harvest and a bonus of 24 to make 36. Now we get 12 with the original and a bonus of 36 to make 48. It's simply not the same as what you are saying.
  And I don't recall the exact incidence of super harvest before, but I'm fairly certain the ratio has resulted in us getting less now. Especially considering the discrepancy between what you said about how much we get per harvest and reality.
  EDIT: Not to say it's so much less that it's noticeable ;) Just that it seems there. Not trying to be too panicky or anything xD
  Posted 7 months ago by Liza Throttlebottom | Permalink
- It doesn't seem like an actual output increase, but rather a change in -how- you get the total (less super harvests, more items per super harvest). xD Which is fine, I just have hopes that we have options to improve this in the future, which you have already stated may/will come. :P
  I was more disagreeing with the concept of more rainbows for no real benefit. That would be weird xD
  Posted 7 months ago by Misanthrope | Permalink
- @stoot: If I was getting 48, that'd be nicer. However, I'm not. Even during the weekend when it was broken, all the super harvests were 3X (36 units) only. The few times I got a Super Harvest since the fix, I still only get 36 units. I have all those upgrades, including the ones that say it should be 4X, so I'm not sure... is it bugged? Is it not 4X every time even now? Or what am I missing here?
  Posted 7 months ago by Lorraine ♪ | Permalink
- @stoot Buttercup *has* the Beanier Harvest upgrade - she's had it since Friday. I don't think anyone has seen more than +36 at any point.
  Posted 7 months ago by geekybird | Permalink
- With Spicier Harvest (4x), I have harvest 16 Spice Trees, gotten 1 super harvest (which yielded 36, not 48)
  (Thank you geeky!!)
  Posted 7 months ago by Innie✿, Obviously | Permalink
- I think the point is that you get your original 12 + 3x more, which equals 4x total when you get the super harvest. Maybe the wording isn't perfect again, but I don't think you're getting less than intended.
  Posted 7 months ago by Misanthrope | Permalink
- Yes, when I said 4x, I meant ... um ... 4x :)
  You can't exclude the first 12 and then say it is only 3x.
  Imagine if you saw an ad that said "satisfaction guaranteed or double your money back" and the product cost $100. If you got a refund for that product would you expect to get $100 and THEN another $200 on top of that? Or just $200 in total?
  ANYWAY, we are double checking everything and doing more testing. We'll see!
  ETA: Ooops! Earlier, I said that they used to be 2x bonuses and are now 4x … I was wrong. It used to be 3x and is now 4x.
  Posted 7 months ago by stoot barfield | Permalink
- @stoot I actually argued that myself to someone in the bug forum earlier in the week. However...
  @misanthrope we used to get 12 +24 pre-iMG. Now was that 2x or 3x? If as stoot says we've gone from 2x to 4x then we should now be getting 12 +48. Otherwise we have in fact gone from 3x to 4x which means if the frequency has gone down by 1/2 (or even a little over) we'd now be getting less overall.
  Believe it or not I'm not actually that bothered but I do object to being told I'm getting more if I am, in fact, getting less ;0)
  Posted 7 months ago by geekybird | Permalink
- Argh sorry - posted before your edit,
  Posted 7 months ago by geekybird | Permalink
- Thank you Stoot, that's all I wanted you to see xD!
  Posted 7 months ago by Liza Throttlebottom | Permalink
- Thanks Stoot, I understand why you nerfed our harvests. I miss them, but hey it was a nice weekend.
  To everyone complaining, maybe if you/we try to be less emotional and just present the problems with a logical argument we may get better results and less forum wars. I really doubt any of the devs wake up and think "Hmm, I really wanna piss off our devoted players and ruin this game. Muaaahhhahahhahaa". Well maybe Stoot, but not the others ;)
  Posted 7 months ago by TheBoyWhoCriedRook | Permalink
- I'd upgraded with all the tree harvesting related cards but over the last 2 game days I think I've got only one super harvest, I'll definitely be testing things out more when I have more time, because right now this is significantly less than I got before the switch to imagination. Admittedly before things were recently changed the amount of super harvests were very high, but currently for me they seem almost non-existent.
  Posted 7 months ago by Errata Stigmata | Permalink
- They dont seem that bad to me. Maybe 1 out of 8 or something like that?
  Posted 7 months ago by Koftun | Permalink
- We have checked and double checked and everything should be ok as of the time I'm posting this.
  Pre-iMG superharvests worked out to an average of 3.36 extra items per harvest action; now it is 3.6 extra items per harvest action. That means over 100 harvests, you will probably get 24 more items than you did before.
  If that's a rip off, then lemme give you the keys to my house you can rip me off ;)
  Posted 7 months ago by stoot barfield | Permalink
- Ouch. Was that a jab at me, Stoot? ;-)
  Posted 7 months ago by Koftun | Permalink
- Stoot, you still have your keyring? :c
  Posted 7 months ago by Palindrome | Permalink
- I will do that Stoot, break in and leave you a washing machine or something ;) Thanks for the update :) I think the 'gift' we were given over the weekend really raised expectations, so now things still feel sour, despite an actual increase.
  Posted 7 months ago by Liza Throttlebottom | Permalink
- Nope koftun, that was a jab at me. And I'm telling you, I have harvest 75 bean trees and gotten 5 super harvest.......25 spice trees and gotten 3 super harvests.
  Not sure how you are getting so many super harvests, but can you share?
  Posted 7 months ago by Innie✿, Obviously | Permalink
- Have you refreshed recently Buttercup? Changes have to be reloaded to be felt, sounds like they tweaked some things.
  Posted 7 months ago by Liza Throttlebottom | Permalink
- No reload necessary … randomness is just a bit random. Flip a bunch of coins and see if you sometimes get a bunch of heads or tails in a row.
  Posted 7 months ago by stoot barfield | Permalink
- Yes and it all seems a bout the same. *shrug*
  Posted 7 months ago by Innie✿, Obviously | Permalink
- Well, the same is better than nothing, right? Though I could use some more gas >.> Guess I'll have to support my fellow glitch and like... Buy it or something. *shudder*
  Posted 7 months ago by Liza Throttlebottom | Permalink
- Huh? No.....I mean.......nevermind. Not worth it. Not sure who is getting that many super harvests, but whatever.
  Posted 7 months ago by Innie✿, Obviously | Permalink
- Thanks for the weekend of super-duper harvests! it was like Xmas...... I was a little down-hearted when it stopped, but can understand the reasoning and accept the new math explanation..... fewer super-harvests than before, but a slight increase in overall yield. It will suffice......but I'd love another card to be introduced to up the yield a bit (frequency of super-harvest, not multiplier).
  Posted 7 months ago by Dru Id | Permalink
- Must have card! Need more gas!
  Posted 7 months ago by Eye Wonder | Permalink

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