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Make a Crab Happy rotation DOES include the super rare SB-1 block

This is lengthy, and feel free to refute me if you have proof to the counter, but I think my theory holds up...

To "make a crab happy" you need to play the musicblock it has heard the least recently. Not including the SB-1, there are 26 musicblocks (5 of each type plus the GnG). When you play a block, the crab will either say, "I just heard that one!" or give you between 50 and 650 currants, the number going up in increments of 25. It is theoretically possible that the crab gives out currants randomly, but I believe the currant amount is attached to how recently the block you are playing was played before. Like this:

1st block (played MOST recently) - "I just heard that!"
2nd block (played second most recently) - 50 currants
3rd - 75
4th - 100
5th - 125
6th - 150
7th - 175
8th - 200
9th - 225
10th - 250
11th - 275
12th - 300
13th - 325
14th - 350
15th - 375
16th - 400
17th - 425
18th - 450
19th - 475
20th - 500
21st - 525
22nd - 550
23rd - 575
24th - 600
25th - 625
26th - 650 currants
27th (only possible if the SB-1 is included) - 2000 currants plus the achievement

Support of my argument:

I tried to grind this achievement over the last several days and ended up playing about 150 musicblocks randomly for all 6 crabs (i.e. 25 random musicblocks to each crab). The randomization is important. The odds of each individual block may vary but so long as there is always 1 correct musicblock (the one played the least recently) and 25 incorrect options, I should have a 1 in 26 chance of playing the correct one (a roughly 3.8% chance). I did not get the achievement, but I did get all the other amounts of currants plus the "just head that" option roughly six times each (I received 425 currants only three times and 225 currants 8 times, but you get the idea).

Sure, it's possible that I was just really unlucky, but if you look at the top ten achievers, NONE of them (including myself) have the "make a crab happy" achievement. And these are people who grind hard, who sit in their backyard, killing themselves with no-no powder for hours just to become Dracula. Odds are good they've tried to grind this one out as well and have failed. And then of course there are the masses of glitchen who have been playing for months, and very few of them have the badge. That kind of widespread "unluckiness" just doesn't seem possible.

Common faulty counterarguments:

1. "I have the achievement, and I got it playing some random musicblock, like DG-2!"

There are a handful of glitchen out there with the SB-1. Thus, every time one of those glitches plays an SB-1 for a crab, 26 other glitchen get to use the other boxes to get the achievement before the crab needs to hear the SB-1 again. If you ask on global chat or in the forums, you'll usually find a few who do have the achievement, but not nearly the number that should be proportional to how many people are TRYING to get the achievement.

2. "Your statistics are wrong. The odds are much less than 1 in 26, because some musicblocks are played often and can never be the correct choice."

Some musicblocks ARE played most often and have a lower likelihood of being played most recently. An average glitch may play the musicblock she thinks is most rare, the higher numbered boxes because they sell for more, or the BB-5 or GnG because they actually are rare, meaning these probably have lower odds of being the best choice. You'll have a hard time getting the achievement with a GnG because glitchen with GnGs may just carry that one around as their one musicblock to play. BUT, so long as you select your musicblock at random, and because there MUST be at least one correct musicblock, the odds should stay firm at 1 in 26.

So... if there's anyone out there with an SB-1, let me know if you got the achievement with your SB-1. Or heck, I'll pay you 40k just to borrow the SB-1 for a minute to use on a crab and test my theory.

Posted 13 months ago by Jessup Subscriber! | Permalink

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  • Just won it by playing DR-2 to the crab in Oktyabria. I guess it means the SB-1 owner keeps playing them to crabs, so thanks!!
    Posted 13 months ago by Nevet Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I got the badge a few hours ago with a BB-5. I wasn't specifically trying for it, I just happened on a Crab and BB-5 was all I had with me. I'm beginning to suspect that the code for the badge may have been changed recently because I have seen quite a few people mention that they got the badge in the past couple of days.
    Posted 13 months ago by epid Subscriber! | Permalink
  • *Twoodle scratches head* I usually play my GNG block. I quite often get the higher amounts of currants so it isn't that bad a strategy.
    We spent a while trying to figure this out way back so its interesting to look through it again. I'm not sure about the details but overall that structure does more or less support what I've been getting from the crabs. I feel another concerted effort coming on.....
    Posted 13 months ago by Twoodle Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I personally don't think the SB is available in any way other than trading from players... Or getting from staff.

    Anyways, a good idea for a group I had: The Crab Pleasers.
    This would require at least 27 faithful players. Basically, everybody has a different musicblock (so we would need the SB), maybe because one player lended out a full collection, etc.
    They set dates for crab pleasings. Basically, everybody keeps a distance from the crab so it won't talk to them. One at a time, maybe with the SB or GNG going first, they would go play their musicblock. As long as some random passerby doesn't come and mess it up for them, they should be able to get at least one player to get the achievement. Possibly even 2 or more.

    That is if the GNG and SB owners don't want to lend out their musicblock. If they wished to, you could play almost all of the regular musicblocks, minus one or two. Then the GNG and SB could go... one of them would get the achievement. Then the other regular musicblocks would go, and that would be a couple more achievement.

    These people would have to be nice... take turns getting achievement. You can only play to a crab once a game day... So once this party is formed, they could teleport to another crab. They could recruit random passersbys to help them get the achievement.

    Get?
    Posted 13 months ago by Palindrome Subscriber! | Permalink
  • @Palindrome, there's already a group for that: http://www.glitch.com/groups/RHFGLJK800G2A39/
    they took it further - having 50 (should be 54 really) players play to the crab sequentially, so the 2nd group would all get badges. Then teleport to a 2nd crab and reverse the groups.
    Personally I think it would need too much discipline for 54 people to do this all on the right order... but it's an interesting idea :-)
    Posted 13 months ago by Nevet Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Did they change something? I just got the badge with a DG-2.
    Posted 13 months ago by Otto Otto Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Either they changed something or some kind SB-1 owner(s) is/are running around to every crab and taking that block out of the loop. I also got the badge today with a DR-4.
    Posted 13 months ago by Shepherdmoon Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Congratulations to the peeps who have gotten badges! The crabs still  hate me, but I'm not giving up!
    Posted 13 months ago by GreyGoose Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I don't know how they got it, I asked, but they requested their privacy. Sounds sneaky, but isn't!
    Posted 13 months ago by Stuv Subscriber! | Permalink
  • The Happy Crabs group did basically what Palindrome's suggesting during beta, but we think that the badge was buggy at the time, because it didn't work.  It should probably work now, if someone with an SB-1 and someone with a GNG participates.
    Posted 13 months ago by glum pudding Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I saw the crab on the edge of groddle meadow yesterday and got the badge with a GNG. I was soooooooo happy.
    Thanks for the check, I would have never known how to get the achievement otherwise.
    Posted 13 months ago by jiva Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I got the crab with DB-3 in Scribe's Weald today! Using reverse psychology on him worked. Hehehe
    Posted 13 months ago by Echo Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Just got the badge by playing XS-5 in Uplands Verge.  Wow!  Never ever expected to get this.
    Posted 13 months ago by Gaalen Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Also got mine in UV (with a DB-3) the other day. Was expecting nothing. Quite pleased, really.
    Posted 13 months ago by ✰ Lorelei ✰ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I got mine with a DB-2 today!!
    Posted 13 months ago by MsKelseyClaire Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Just got the badge with BB-2 on Hechey Track a few minutes ago! Fiiiiiiiinally! :D
    Posted 12 months ago by Glitch E Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Got mine in Ix with a DB-4 yesterday... wasn't really even trying, but hey, now I have that, I suppose.
    Posted 12 months ago by Djabriil Subscriber! | Permalink
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