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#### Add "+1" and "-1" to feature requests

I noticed that a hella lot of people use the term "+1" to denote their approval to postings. That's Google+-ish, but nonetheless: It would improve the community voting process a lot if real voting ("one guy/gal, one vote") if a + or - button would be introduced in the "Ideas"-Forum.
If there is such a thing as a "community voting process"... :-)

Posted 14 months ago by Brianbrainerz | Permalink

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- Google did not invent +1 to posts. That's like saying Al Gore invented the Internet...
  But I digress. Although I'd like to see an option to +1 or "Like" an idea, I'm against a negative action such as -1 or "Dislike" because I can see it being used inappropriately.
  Posted 14 months ago by Joojoo | Permalink
- ... wait, Al Gore didn't invent the internet?
  Posted 14 months ago by Sparklebooty | Permalink
- X_____________X Google-ish
  Posted 14 months ago by Jarhaven | Permalink
- Any game mechanism that only allows for a positive response is not very useful in determining how the community feels about an idea. Pluses and minuses are an excellent mechanism for allowing anonymous commentary. Both can be used inappropriately, so the danger is in allowing only one side to comment anonymously but not the other.
  Frequently a discussion brings out even better ideas than just a thumbs up, thumbs down mechanism. I'd hate to see a feature that encourages people to not comment and just push a button.
  Also, there is (coming soon) a real voting process where subscribers use their votes to give input to TS on ideas and directions that TS chooses to put up for a subscriber vote. There isn't a "community voting process" because Glitch isn't a democracy. The only things that get added to the game are things that the developers decide will make it more fun.
  Posted 14 months ago by WindBorn | Permalink
- I don't think anyone suggested a thumbs up/thumbs down feature replacing the ability to add comments to a thread, but rather that it be in addition to the comments. That being said, the negativity associated with a minus option far outweighs any potential "abuse" of a plus option. As if you can really call it an "abuse" to really really like something. I fail to see how not having a minus option is not useful. You either like the idea, or you don't. You don't have to trash it in the process. Constructive criticism can still be given in the comments area. My emphasis is on constructive, because simply saying -1 without an explanation as to why you don't like the idea is not what I consider to be constructive.
  Posted 14 months ago by Joojoo | Permalink
- You either like the idea, or you don't.
  If an idea is so simple that "you either like the idea, or you don't" then there needs to be a button for each response: "Like" and "Don't Like"
  Posted 14 months ago by WindBorn | Permalink
- Or...you can simply take a non-Like vote to mean "don't" like. I don't understand this fixation with wanting a feature that has a negative effect and offers nothing unique. You accomplish the same thing by comparing activity in a thread with the number of "Likes" it receives.
  Posted 14 months ago by Joojoo | Permalink
- If you make it easy to vote one way you need to make it just as easy to vote the other. If you don't then you skew your results. You don't want your results to be unreliable.
  If you are comparing x and y, it has to be just as easy to vote "x" as it is to vote "y". Otherwise you can't compare the results.
  The OP has it right: you need to add a -1 if you add a +1.
  Posted 14 months ago by WindBorn | Permalink
- So you're implying that when presented with just one option (+1), people will gravitate to hit the +1 button, even though they don't really feel that way. That makes absolutely no sense. I'm not tempted to "Like" things on Facebook just because there's no "Dislike" button. If it gave skewed results, given the amount of advertising money Facebook generates, I'm pretty sure they would have added a "Dislike" button.
  P.S. There is no right/wrong. The OP has an opinion. You happen to share that opinion. That doesn't make it any more right than anyone else's opinion. Because at the end of the day, it's just that. An opinion.
  Posted 14 months ago by Joojoo | Permalink
- Actually, corporations and politicians pay to have skewed results visible to the public. Facebook would lose money if they had a -1 button so that people could actually express a dislike. Why do you think each side has polls showing how much they are liked, even if the results are contradictory? People are paid to like things on Facebook. Neither Facebook nor other large corporations want to have any negative publicity.
  On the other hand, when you are discussing site changes, it's important to get all sides into the voting. Hence the support in this thread for both a + and - system. It keeps things honest.
  What I am saying is that if you make it easy for one side to vote for their preference, and don't make it just as easy for the other side, then you will get a larger percentage of people who feel one way to make their opinion known. If you make it harder for the other side to make their feelings known, a smaller percentage of people who hold that opinion will participate. So your results will mostly show how easy it was to vote one way or the other, not how people felt.
  Posted 14 months ago by WindBorn | Permalink
- +1
  :)
  Posted 14 months ago by Syruss | Permalink
- I like it.
  Also, It's good to know how many people saw an idea and disliked as well as how many liked it. Assuming that everyone who didn't like an idea dislikes it is kinda presumptuous. They might have never seen the idea at all.
  Posted 14 months ago by MeansDarling | Permalink
- You accomplish the same thing by comparing activity in a thread with the number of "Likes" it receives.
  There's nothing presumptuous about that. If you're taking part in the conversation, then you've seen the idea. If you didn't "Like" it, then you either don't like it, or you have your reservations about it.
  Ex. 10 people comment on an idea and only 1 person "Likes" it. It's safe to assume only 10% favor the idea. 10 people comment on an idea, 1 person "Likes" it and 9 people "Dislike" it. We still have the same assumption (10% favor the idea), but now the idea also has a glaring -8 rating. Surely I can't be the only one that sees something wrong with attaching such negativity to anyone's idea. We're supposed to encourage thought sharing, not discourage it.
  Posted 14 months ago by Joojoo | Permalink
- ... and 0% of those people are indifferent to the idea?
  Posted 14 months ago by Syruss | Permalink
- I would also love some kind of response from the staff listed, like if thats not ever going to be implemented and why, or if they are reviewing it, or if they are considering it, or if it goes to their to-do list, or if they need more details.
  Posted 14 months ago by Fiana Stormborn | Permalink
- If you were indifferent to the idea, why would you take the time to formulate a response, and thereby participate in the discussion?
  Posted 14 months ago by Joojoo | Permalink