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#### A question about badges after changes.

It was mentioned in a previous dev answer that some things, like music-boxes, may be re-purposed or removed if they don't fit into the new economy. Also, changes to crafting and other things have been hinted at down the road.
My question is simply this: If changes to game mechanics make it impossible to get a previously attainable badge, how would that previous achievement be handled?
Should it get removed, along with any numeric adjustment made on total badges and any mention of it in the encyclopedia? Should it remain, with an annotation letting people know it's no longer available? Moved to a new category other than achievement? Adjusted to something else that can still be obtained?
I'll be asleep during the Q&A today, so feel free to ask this question there if you like, glitches, or post your thoughts below!

Posted 11 months ago by XD | Permalink

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- There are already badges that are not attainable through game mechanics. Don't see why they would suddenly disappear with the new system.
  Posted 11 months ago by WindBorn | Permalink
- Which badges are those, Windborn?
  Posted 11 months ago by Shepherdmoon | Permalink
- Intern . . .
  Posted 11 months ago by SchWM | Permalink
- Egg collection.
  Posted 11 months ago by Squiggle-Squee | Permalink
- I was thinking of the Intern badge and the Beta badges
  Posted 11 months ago by WindBorn | Permalink
- The Beta badges do not appear to count for the leaderboards. My profile indicates I have 361 badges including 4 Beta badges. But on the leaderboards I'm shown as having 357 achievements. Assuming the same holds true for other "special" badge(s), then (as far as I can see) it is currently possible for all players to acquire every badge that counts for the leaderboards. TS appears to be committed to not locking anyone out of the possibility of getting to the top of the leaderboards. I would guess the newish quest (I forget exactly what it was) that takes you to the back alley was added because many players got their papers without visiting the back alley and were thus unable to hit the max on the travelers leaderboard. So, based on all this speculation, I would further speculate that, if in the future a certain achievement were no longer attainable, glitchen who had achieved it would keep the badge but it would no longer count on the leaderboards. I'm probably wrong, though.
  Posted 11 months ago by Hawkwell | Permalink
- The Beta badges (8 of them) are the only ones that don't count for leaderboards. The Intern and Egg Collection Trophy both count for scores despite being not obtainable at the moment.
  For the street leaderboards, there are also still quite a few locations that shouldn't count but do still count for scores.
  Posted 11 months ago by TomC | Permalink
- Well, at least I was right in saying I was probably wrong!
  Posted 11 months ago by Hawkwell | Permalink
- Tom's basically an information bank :P If you have a question, ask Tom. He probably knows the answer. I hang around him hoping some of his info will rub off on me :P
  Posted 11 months ago by Liza Throttlebottom | Permalink
- Thanks for the informative replies, guys. It doesn't surprise me at all that they've dealt with it at some level previously, and I can only assume they'll have it in mind for future changes.
  Thanks!
  Posted 11 months ago by XD | Permalink