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Does it seem like it's taking longer to mine with Mining 4?

It does to me, but maybe I'm imaging it?

Edit to add: not imagining it, needed the mining maniac cards, which I have now after a couple of days of shuffling and buying cards. It's all better now.

Posted 7 months ago by Tibbi Subscriber! | Permalink

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  • yes yes my creys yes

    8 seconds ;_;
    Posted 7 months ago by Csophae Subscriber! | Permalink
  • It takes much longer … but, you can still mine at the same speed, via upgrades :)
    Posted 7 months ago by stoot barfield Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I don't really like that :/
    Posted 7 months ago by Crrrystal Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Yeah I really with alot of the cards were upgrades instead of fixing the nerfs.
    Posted 7 months ago by koolaroo Subscriber! | Permalink
  • That is, you can if you get offered the upgrades...
    Posted 7 months ago by geekybird Subscriber! | Permalink
  • How many mining speed upgrade cards are there? I've got Manic Miner 3 and it still takes 8 seconds to mine sparkly.

    Will it get quicker as I level up, too?
    Posted 7 months ago by Crrrystal Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I'm really not too psyched about having to buy my way through a whole deck of random upgrade cards just to be able to do something I could do yesterday.  That seems sort of...semi-reset-ish.
    Posted 7 months ago by E D D I E Subscriber! | Permalink
  • (That's literally my only beef with the new stuff, though.)
    Posted 7 months ago by E D D I E Subscriber! | Permalink
  • No Crystal, you need the upgrades.
    I have mining 4, I got an improve mining speed card by 10%, now it takes .... 7 seconds.
    Ill probably need another 3? cards just to get back to what i was at (4 seconds). God knows how long that will take considering you can only get a total of 6 card choices per day (inc re-shuffle)

    Have to admit I dont like this aspect, im not really fond of mining in the first place, its always been a means to an end, i couldnt be bothered to do any tonight.
    Posted 7 months ago by York Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Seems like they are making old learned skills into questionable "upgrade cards".  Seems like we are going backwards or we are getting stupider.
    Posted 7 months ago by xoxJulie Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Did something change with the gems? I've mined several rocks today and I haven't gotten one, not even an Amber.
    Posted 7 months ago by Arcadia Noelle Subscriber! | Permalink
  • You probably need some sort of 'Earn gems when mining' upgrade!
    Posted 7 months ago by geekybird Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I kinda figured the cards would figure in there somewhere. :)  I'm going card crazy!!!!! :)
    Posted 7 months ago by Tibbi Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Ok, so here's my question then, York: I have mining 4 and have purchased Manic Mining 1, 2, and 3. It takes me 8 seconds (as stated in the menu and confirmed by stopwatch) to mine a sparkly rock 1 time. Manic Mining 3 is supposed to speed up Mining by 50%. It didn't seem to do so at all.

    Is this a bug? Anybody not have *any* mining speed increases so they could test the "base" time?
    Posted 7 months ago by Crrrystal Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Sadly geekybird is right...

    "Mining gem drops are now available via card upgrades.Posted 14 min ago by Mart Lume  | Permalink"
    Posted 7 months ago by Csophae Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Crrrystal, I have that too.
    Posted 7 months ago by I Love You TS Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Thats weird, sorry i didnt realise you mean manic miner was the actual upgrade cards, i guess i just have 1 and it takes 7 seconds so i guess its a bug.
    Posted 7 months ago by York Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I got a gem upgrade before I started mining about an hour ago.  Only gems in my inventory: Four ambers.

    Hopefully that's just my bad luck, or a result of not mining so many rocks as usual.  Otherwise: Do not like.
    Posted 7 months ago by E D D I E Subscriber! | Permalink
  • My big problem with the upgrade is this:

    We spend(spent?) the time learning Mining IV -- and are penalized in learning time for new skills to do so (because we have more than 30ish knowledge sets). There is no immediate, realizable benefit, for if we still have to "buy" whatever benefit spent the time to learn (randomly, at that, when the card comes up), then what is the present-day point of learning skills at all?

    If Mining IV = Mining I, then why penalize us for having the II, III, and IV upgrades in learning time?
    Posted 7 months ago by BumbelB 2na Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I'm kind of confused about the new mining upgrade/downgrade. How much of a difference does learning the actual skills (vs the upgrades) figure into the mining speed equation? Does it mean if you have mining I and no upgrades you take like 40 seconds to mine now? Or do the old mining skills make no difference at all?
    Posted 7 months ago by Omnika Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I think it's not equal in that mining 4 would give better imagination for mining than mining 1. I don't have a reference for this though, and I could be really wrong.
    Posted 7 months ago by diaveborn ♥ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Crrrystal: that sounds like it could be a bug (if you have Mining IV skill + Manic Miner III upgrade, it should take 4 seconds).  We're re-testing now.  Are you using a fancy pick or normal?
    Posted 7 months ago by stoot barfield Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Fancy pick, Stoot, and I've checked Sparkly and Beryl so far.
    Posted 7 months ago by Crrrystal Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Agree. I have mining four and an upgrade and it takes way to long to mine.
    Posted 7 months ago by Gruff McGruff Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Goddamn fucking hell.  Why go so far backwards?  >:(

    I HATE hate hate this.
    Why did I even bother learning Mining then???  Why??

    -- Edit: I really hope that the lack of credits on my part indicates we're still in Beta, which means maybe you all can listen and hear us all out that we don't like this and it can be changed.. I'll just sit here hoping.. before I start spending my hard-earned Imagination.  :P
    Posted 7 months ago by ♪♥~ Auren ~♥♪ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I definitely seem to be facing the same bug as Crrrystal. I have Mining IV and Manic Miner III and am still mining at 8 seconds. I am using a fancy pick. I did try reloading a few times but that didnt work.
    Posted 7 months ago by Jabs Girl Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I've been mining a Lot since game came back up...I had max mining and haven't gotten a single gem :(
    Posted 7 months ago by Anya Karenya Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Xandria - apparently you need an upgrade card to get gems now.
    Posted 7 months ago by Csophae Subscriber! | Permalink
  • takes 8 seconds for me, with manic mining 3 and whatever.. highest mining skill.
    Posted 7 months ago by SideBurns Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Yeah, have mining IV, and manic mining 1 . . . . before manic mining 1, my time was 8 seconds. Afterward, it's still 8 seconds.

    So it's not only pointless to learn the skills, it's pointless to buy the upgrades too. (*equally worthless is my "Rube doesn't give you cheap items" upgrade, which is in another thread posted by someone else)
    Posted 7 months ago by BumbelB 2na Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Stoot just said it was likely a bug,.. so why dont we wait to call things pointless or get really angry about things and just report our findings?
    Posted 7 months ago by SideBurns Subscriber! | Permalink
  • " So it's not only pointless to learn the skills, it's pointless to buy the upgrades too. (*equally worthless is my "Rube doesn't give you cheap items" upgrade, which is in another thread posted by someone else)"

    Looks like it from what I've read on the forums.
    =(
    Posted 7 months ago by ♪♥~ Auren ~♥♪ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • +1739 SideBurns!
    Posted 7 months ago by Crrrystal Subscriber! | Permalink
  • We've retested it pretty exhaustively and haven't been able to reproduce, but we've tracked a few of you down in the game to see what's going on.
    Posted 7 months ago by stoot barfield Subscriber! | Permalink
  • stoot, that sounds horribly creepy.
    Posted 7 months ago by Crrrystal Subscriber! | Permalink
  • To add to the stock of information, the info blurb above the rock tells me 'Mining this will take 7 energy and 8 seconds' with mining IV. So, even the blurb thinks it's still eight seconds :)
    Posted 7 months ago by Liza Throttlebottom Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Not creepy! :)

    And, yes … bizarrely, the bug is there: it was true for SideBurns (thanks for letting me test with your character!) even though we can't make it happen for our own characters. Anyway, we'll get to the bottom of it and it'll be fixed tomorrow (if not tonight … everyone has had a long day already and there are plenty of known bugs already).
    Posted 7 months ago by stoot barfield Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I think people are just frustrated with the lack of what they can do now as opposed to yesterday.  I admit, the cards make me a bit agro...I spent days learning skills for a reason!  
    Posted 7 months ago by Samurai Jenn Subscriber! | Permalink
  • maybe the bug happens when you have the 25% card, 50% card... and the 3 cards that gives 15% more rocks. because I first tried after having the 25% card and it worked. but then with the other cards it takes 8 seconds.
    Posted 7 months ago by UXRoot Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Thanks for putting in the hours TS, seriously.  And especially thanks for helping out Sideburns -- he's good people.
    Posted 7 months ago by Red Sauce Subscriber! | Permalink
  •  I expected be where I was before the upgrades.I spent a lot of time and energy to get to level IV in mining. Frankly, this isn't much of an upgrade when I have gone back a grade in speed plus the paucity of of gems. Now, I have to find some card or the other and further more PAY for what I already had. That is not an "upgrade" It's robbery!
    Posted 7 months ago by Jo Jo Ruffledspouse Subscriber! | Permalink
  • sideburns is a pal - glad he got sorted.

    that said - i do feel like i already put in the time for mining 4 and all my other skills. i've been fortunate (or really my main has) to get a lot of mining cards - but i'm still at 6 seconds. 

    i get the approach. but many of my friends who were hardcore miners haven't seen a mining card and have to take cards they don't care about in the hopes of a mining card. so - i'm suggesting some options that allow players a little preference over the area from which their random card is generated - even if there is an extra imagination hit...
    Posted 7 months ago by Raven King Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Oh well, having gotten THAT out of my system, it's a game. A very good one, and I do need to remember that. 4 seconds here or there really isn't going pt kill me. Sorry about the rant
    Posted 7 months ago by Jo Jo Ruffledspouse Subscriber! | Permalink
  • @ Stoot, ty for testing and finding it! I am enjoying this and we all need remember we are and have been in a Beta game :D
    Posted 7 months ago by Anya Karenya Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I am experiencing this bug as well, up to Manic Mining III. 

    Many donuts and coffee to the staff as I know that it will be a long few days. I would offer my barista skills, but the travel expense is probably out of control. :) 
    Posted 7 months ago by Kristen Marie Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Bartender! A round of Code Red Mountain Dew for the TS staff please!
    Posted 7 months ago by Mal'akh Subscriber! | Permalink
  • We think we might have found it — do all of you people experiencing the problem also have the gem drop upgrade?
    Posted 7 months ago by stoot barfield Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I do :)
    Posted 7 months ago by Liza Throttlebottom Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I do too :)
    Posted 7 months ago by Scarlett Bearsdale Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I do
    Posted 7 months ago by SideBurns Subscriber! | Permalink
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