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Crops in the 30k and 50k homes should be both herb and produce...

For the amount of money those homes cost, I really think they should be split half herb and half produce crops. Or make it so they do both?

Edited to add: Instead of splitting the plots in half, I like the idea of being able to have a planter box to grow 4 herbs at a time.

Posted 16 months ago by Innie✿, Obviously Subscriber! | Permalink

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  • +100

    (i'd even take a planter box for herbs)

    Or garden in the terrace up top and herbs down below under the first floor awning. ;) 
    Posted 16 months ago by emdot Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Yes! This definitely has my vote.
    Posted 16 months ago by Mahkia Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Yes em, exactly!
    Posted 16 months ago by Innie✿, Obviously Subscriber! | Permalink
  • i think it is good that not everyone can do everything.

    one day, maybe, this will lead to, you know, cooperation.

    even now, my wife has a large alakol and i have a large firebog house and we, you know, trade stuff.

    also, why should everyone live in alakol? this would remove a strong incentive for people to choose to live elsewhere.

    plus how would herbs grow in alakol when they clearly require levels of humidity that are only present in the firebogs?
    Posted 16 months ago by striatic Subscriber! | Permalink
  • oooh. disagree. have you seen the fog in alakol? perfect for the herbs. :) 

    come to me my little precious alakol herb garden......
    Posted 16 months ago by emdot Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I agree with striatic. I think it will be best you don't get to have everything in one area. I suggest 50K currant Firebog houses that have 32 slot cabinets, firefly swarms, 24 herb gardens, 4 patches, several barnacles, a peat bog or two and as much space as the current 50K homes. Only in Firebog style. I love the place but I:

    1. Need the cabinet space 
    2. Need the general space
    3. Need the patches and
    4. All my friends live there. It sure makes popping over to each others house easier.

    If a firebog house is big and tempting enough, I'll move.
    Posted 16 months ago by KitkatCat Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Alakol and other 30 or 50k homes are already overpowered as it is.  

    @KitKat:  There was a forum here somewhere about the same thing, because if there are 50k non firebog houses then it only makes sense to have the equivalent but firebog style!
    Posted 16 months ago by Laurali Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Alakol and other 30 or 50k homes are already overpowered as it is.  

    Huh?!  Other than the pens and little more room, there isn't much to them than maybe a cool view!  Frankly, would rather have an 8K-10K Meadows style home because I at least get 5 tree patches to my 3-4 patches in the Alakol homes (and only 2-4 patches in the Kajuu/Andra homes). Same sized cabinet.  Fewer gardening patches in the meadow homes, but I'm not much into the regular crop gardening.  They are soooooo lacking in resources for the price you shell out for them (20-40K more than other homes); however, my friend and I originally moved to Alakol to get out of the overly populated Groddle areas (though now, it is nearly as busy - at least there are fewer streets per neighborhood and fewer houses per street so it is a bit less crowded).  Give us something unique for the extreme price we're paying for these homes (a dark patch under the house, a couple of herb plots)...and improve the resources for the rock homes that are way over priced in these areas also (the 2500-2750 rock homes are such a better deal than the 5-10K ones).  

    Hopefully the future home designing skills includes landscaping...I'm tearing out most of the garden plots and putting in tree patches...
    Posted 16 months ago by b3achy Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I think the firebog homes should also be able to grow mushrooms. It is dark there....
    Posted 16 months ago by g33kgurrl Subscriber! | Permalink
  • +1 Striatic 
    +1 for specialisation
    If you could do everything at home why would you ever need to leave it?
    ... although I'd like to have a patch in a box for a tree in my firebog house :)
    Posted 16 months ago by Momo McGlitch Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Striatic makes a very good point, and one I hadn't considered.
    Posted 16 months ago by Mahkia Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I'd absolutely love to have a herb-planter to put in my garden,they could be sold by gardening vendors,in sizes small,medium,and large with room for 1 to 3 herbs.

    I have to admit,I totally hate growing herbs in those herb gardens! It is boring to stand there waiting for them to grow,and even then some nincompoop comes along takes all the good stuff,and doesn't even hoe the plots!

    Now I hear those who talk about things like cooperation,community,team spirit etcetcetc ~but not everybody plays that way,they enjoy chatting with friends,attend and help with parties,participate with the help/group channels,but mostly they play alone.
    In short: playing as a group can be great,but so is playing as a single player.
    Posted 16 months ago by ~Scilly~ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • +1 I'd love to be able to grow herbs at home. The space under the house would be perfect. At the moment it's just blockmaker storage for me, but herbs would be much better.
    As for the cooperation comments, sure it's easy to cooperate with your wife (I'd assume), but cooperating with people you don't share a bed with isn't always so smooth.  
    Also, for 50k, they could really do with having just a few more benefits...  
    Posted 16 months ago by Ebil Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Ok, those are all really great points. Then I agree, we need some firebog 30k homes.  Still, I think they should be able to do more for that much money.  Not sure what, they just seem so over priced.
    Posted 16 months ago by Innie✿, Obviously Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I'd love to see some in-between prices for homes... 20K, 25K, etc.
    Posted 16 months ago by emdot Subscriber! | Permalink
  • "Huh?!  Other than the pens and little more room, there isn't much to them than maybe a cool view! "

    large alakol homes have 28 garden plots.

    28!

    that's like 10 more plots than any other house.

    also the pens let them hold 25 pigs.

    25!

    in my large firebog house i top out at 14 before they start getting depressed. alakol houses can hold an additional 10 pigs!

    alakol houses are extremely good even without herb gardens. they're good for much more than the view. they are *by far* the best houses for farming and ranching.
    Posted 16 months ago by striatic Subscriber! | Permalink
  • "As for the cooperation comments, sure it's easy to cooperate with your wife (I'd assume), but cooperating with people you don't share a bed with isn't always so smooth. "

    i've run around ajaya bliss handing out rubeweed to people who are like "oooh what's this?"
    Posted 16 months ago by striatic Subscriber! | Permalink
  • The Alakol houses ARE overpowered.  The cabinet space is priceless for many people, as well as all the garden plots (I only have 9 in my Shimla home and the most you can get is 12, so its over double the plots).  Also the ability to keep many more animals in a contained area is a HUGE benefit.

    "As for the cooperation comments, sure it's easy to cooperate with your wife (I'd assume), but cooperating with people you don't share a bed with isn't always so smooth. "
    Sorry Stri but it's true.  Of course you can trust people you know IRL but there are numerous people out for griefing and it can only get worse once the game goes live.  It's not really fair to expect people to trust others the same way you would trust someone you know personally and especially someone you are married to.
    Posted 16 months ago by Laurali Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Pledges my love to Alakol. *sniff sniff* I just love it so much.
    Posted 16 months ago by emdot Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I love my Alakol 50k home.

    +1
    Posted 16 months ago by scottj Subscriber! | Permalink
  • "Sorry Stri but it's true.  Of course you can trust people you know IRL but there are numerous people out for griefing and it can only get worse once the game goes live.  It's not really fair to expect people to trust others the same way you would trust someone you know personally and especially someone you are married to."

    oh god it was just an example. find a friend and cooperate with them, you'll only get more friends over time.

    you can also cooperate by way of auctions. you sell your crops to them, they sell their herbs to you.

    that's a baloney comment by the way. i've traded similarly with people other than my wife, so your point is demonstrably false.

    and where does "trust" factor in at all? trades are secured by dual confirmation, and auctions abstract the whole thing out. nobody has to trust anyone in order to trade goods in glitch. yet we are talking about trust and griefers for some reason? it isn't germane.
    Posted 16 months ago by striatic Subscriber! | Permalink
  • yep.
    i just bought a 50k house yesterday. i cannot just put crops..
    Posted 16 months ago by GiaTori Subscriber! | Permalink
  • The floor in my Alakol has become my new cabinet. I have stacks of bushels of wheat, gigantic fetid piles of meat, stacks of emblems... I'm slowly working my way through all of the extra stuff, but the sizes of the cabinets make them practically useless, and having to drag each item from the cabinet to my inventory by hand is more than tedious.
    Posted 16 months ago by Skwid Subscriber! | Permalink
  • @Skwid: You know you can put bags in the cabinet slots? I used to be the same til I happened upon that nugget of knowledge in the forums. Makes moving a lot easier, too.
    Posted 16 months ago by Sheepy Subscriber! | Permalink
  • ideas:
    1: Potts for plants/herbs. Make them crafted by players, and make them a pain in the butt to make. Perhaps even make it so they require minigame that uses several players and requires a good bit of cooperation to be successful.

    2: house addon. Well egg plants need dark right? Make a 'dark room' that is also crafted by players and requires a lot of cooperation to accomplish, perhaps using several minigames to build it a step at a time.

    these 2 ideas allow for players to still have reason not to live in 'just anywhere' because although they can have everything in one spot it takes a heck of a lot of effort and time to get. Make it something that players have to earn.

    When I say cooperation i don't mean spam a single button and be done with it kind of crap. Make it take much more effort than that.
    Posted 16 months ago by Rimashi Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I kinda like the split half and half...one part of our garden (50k) is smaller than the other, so the smaller part could be for herbs..and maybe even if it was just the 50k houses, to sort of justify it ..( don't shoot me ) just a thought :)  

    P.S..I would be more than happy to plant and share my herbs with anyone who needed them...even knock my door and ask for them. I would gladly hand them out..Ok now am gonna get shot..cos then people will moan thats too easy LOL :D  Ok..Shoot me now!! haha!!  

    But I'm still happy to do it..shot or not LOL :P 
    Posted 16 months ago by Cryztal Subscriber! | Permalink
  • It is boring to stand there waiting for them to grow,and even then some nincompoop comes along takes all the good stuff,and doesn't even hoe the plots!

    Guano, guano, guano.  2 applications of guano to an herb and you've got a growing time of practically nil, even for longer growing herbs.

    I don't have an answer for the nincompoops.
    Posted 16 months ago by jasbo Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Never mentioned for the 30k and 50k houses is the map access while you are in your house. I love being able to look at the map and tp to whereever I'm going right from inside my home.
    Posted 16 months ago by MaryLiLamb Subscriber! | Permalink
  • There is just no way to justify how impossibly Overpowered a 50k house would be WITH the herb plots.  There are two basic types of housing available, herb garden homes and crop garden homes, because that is the biggest different (besides visual differences) between the two.  It would defeat the purpose of having the two different types of homes if you could have herb plots in Alakol, and everyone would clamber to live in just one area.
    Posted 16 months ago by Laurali Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I would be fine with a tiny container garden for any house, i.e. a pot/planter with one plot for herbs in houses with veggie garden or one veggie spot in a house with herb garden.  But I don't think it should be exclusive to super expensive homes.
    Posted 16 months ago by larky lion Subscriber! | Permalink
  • +1
    Posted 16 months ago by Spellbound Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I still think a windowbox would be an ideal solution. And limit it to one per house, if you feel it's necessary.

    In regards to Rimashi's comment, that's not a bad idea, and have the expansion of house phase be like a street project - multiple phases, many requirements and ingredients, that kind of thing.

    I have an Alakol house in Andra (you can tell, because it says it's an Alakol trophy case), and while I love all the things that only grow in the firebogs, I personally don't like the look of the streets in that area. Same with Alakol itself - I just prefer the open plains to those regions. That said, I much prefer the tree houses, but they don't have 50K tree houses yet =)
    Posted 16 months ago by arcturus Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I'd like a windowbox to grow herbs in my Meadow house. :)
    Posted 16 months ago by StarBryte Subscriber! | Permalink
  • @arcturus- that right there is why I don't think there's gonna be a problem with people all bunching up in one place; I live in Jethimadh, and I prefer that area over Andra all day. To each their own :)
    Posted 16 months ago by Djabriil Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Heh... I looked at this thread when I was trying to raise 50k for a "good" house. So I scroll down and I reach the comment about how homes in the Meadow have 5 plots for trees. That was it! I had a look and when I  also saw the interiors of the Meadow homes I was sold.  I've been in a 50k house and while I was impressed with the space and all, it was very cold and sparse, like living in the mall or something. While my beautiful 10k home in the Meadow is decorated with paintings and sculpture and has windows! I love my windows. And I love my trees! All 5 of them :)  So I figure I wont be going anywhere for a while. Regarding herb gardens I also would love a planter to put in the occasional herb, though I wouldn't mind if i had to choose between that and being able to have all the tree kinds in my garden. Trees > herbs any time. My only complaint is my animals swarming me when i try to plant my garden, makes clicking on stuff tricky (a pen would save a lot of frustration) Oh! and +1 to the add on idea.
    Posted 16 months ago by madragoran Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I vote this way:

    Allow owners to change existing plots to the other type for a fee (or quest?), but cannot add or remove plots.

    Eventually I'd like to be able to adjust everything in my home to the way I'd like it, removing planters and adding trees, removing trees and adding storage sheds, etc…
    Posted 16 months ago by Skwid Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I am all for a window box or plantable pot... 1 per house would be fine.  I don't need to be self sufficient to the point where I don't need to leave my house, but I don't find auctions or teaming up to be an alternative I love.  All things being equal, currently housing with herbs is a huge advantage; you can buy all the produce you can grow in a garden plot from a produce vendor, but there *is* no herb vendor.  I'd gladly sacrifice garden plots for herb plots.  I'd even trade a patch for 1 or 2 herb plots. 
    *Full disclosure, I live in one of the Meadows houses with 5 patches.
    Posted 16 months ago by Wiggles The Fluent Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Guess I don't see the 'huge' benefit for the price of the homes in Alakol since: 
    1) I have a 30K home with a lowly 18 plots...but more than I really need because I can purchase produce from vendors.
    2) I don't stock that many animals in my homes...seems a bit excessive...3 pigs, 2 chickens, 3 butterflies, one meat collector and one milk collector provide way more resources right now than I know what to with...even selling off bulk raw meat and milk and I still have tons in my inventory and around the house.
    3) I find tree patches more valuable than garden plots anyway.

    I might find the Alakol style houses more worth the price if we could have at least one dark patch for egg plants under the house (and I think it's a pity that they took the dark patch out of the expensive rock houses (5k-10k)...which to me makes them overpriced for the resources also).

    I guess I'm just not using my Alakol house to it's fullest potential, but to me, other the the view of water, it's just an overpriced house...I'd get more bang for my buck with a meadows house.

    I have to agree though, having a plot or two in a windowbox or a ceramic pot where you could have either veggies or herbs depending on which type you purchase would be awesome.  This won't upset the balance of the benefit of having an herb garden firebog house if someone in a non-herb garden home could grow one or two herbs...and vice versa. 
    Posted 16 months ago by b3achy Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Most definitely! After spending 50,000 currants the least I should get is an herb garden as well!
    Posted 16 months ago by Fstra Subscriber! | Permalink
  • b3achy:  You really aren't using it to it's potential, which is probably why you feel its overpriced.

    I do really like Larky Lions idea about having a planter with just one slot for either herbs or crops, I think that could be a great upgrade that people add to their houses like the pen or bigger cabinets
    Posted 16 months ago by Laurali Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I disagree with having everything you need in one home- it kind of makes things 'too easy' (which people tend to appreciate less).
    I do agree with having a small planter you can buy (at a high cost) for your windowsill that might hold 4-5 herb patches (with a required planter fertilizer to be added to the bottom to keep the herbs healthy).
    Posted 16 months ago by Zeezee Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I would love to see even more specialization in houses and also community gardens for neighborhoods in the tree houses.
    Posted 16 months ago by arizoo Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I agree with arizoo, the tree houses are really cool but need a bit more variety!  One thing I don't like about the recent changest to housing is that only new things are being added, but updates are still needed for some of the older housing.

    It kind of feels like a huge hodge podge of randomness, when I wish it was a bit more "You get [x] benefit for living here, and [y] benefit for living here" that is separate from just the visual aspects.  For instance, the tree houses should have the *most* patches available because it is located in the woods, the meadow houses should have the most room for gardening cause its in a meadow, while the caves should have additional features (as mentioned before, possibly a metal rock that could be mined but have a long respawn timer), firebog their own benefits, etc etc.

    I like the idea of choosing a house based on location, and having regional benefits would be appropriate as there are already limits on what trees can be grown where as well as what rocks spawn in what areas, etc.
    Posted 16 months ago by Laurali Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Keep in mind that eventually vendors will not be selling commodities like food items. You will have to grow your own, or buy them from other people in the AH, or create some sort of co-op for trading outside the AH. The only reason there are vendors that sell food stuffs is for testing, since there really aren't enough players to have a stable economy. Once the game goes live, having extra garden plots or herb plots will be a huge factor in deciding which house to live in. At the moment they don't save much money.
    Posted 16 months ago by Skwid Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I think the loss of vendors only makes my idea better, because then you REALLY have to choose what you need, trees or plots, etc.  I just feel the houses should be more custom to the areas they are in.  And on top of it there should be a variety of price options for each area.

    I just really like the idea of having specialized housing to each area so that your house really fits what you like to do in game, and right now I feel the only specialized houses are the firebog ones
    Posted 16 months ago by Laurali Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I totally agree Laurali. Those are the kinds of tough decisions that make games like Glitch fun! At least for me!
    I'm pretty sure that a dev dropped in somewhere and mentioned furnishings for houses… Do you have an idea thread up for this yet?
    Posted 16 months ago by Skwid Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Nope, I haven't made one yet.
    Posted 16 months ago by Laurali Subscriber! | Permalink
  • i agree!!
    Posted 16 months ago by blackwidow Subscriber! | Permalink
  • +1 laurali
    Posted 16 months ago by arizoo Subscriber! | Permalink