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#### Mature discussion: How about a little non lethal combat (optional) i.e pillow fights, paintball etc...

Listen before everyone runs in here attacking me, telling me how I am playing the wrong game or whatever, please hear me out first.
We live in a mostly negative world, what I mean by that is we live in a world where people like to focus on what can't be done far more than what can be done. As I write this out I am almost 100% sure I will receive more replies about how combat would not work in this game rather than how it could work. However I believe that a true sandbox game should be with as little limits as possible. Why not have combat? Who does it hurt? The truth is it would be simple to implement without hurting anyone. I am sure there are plenty of people here who just simply want to enjoy a social experience, but why not have it all? What I am suggesting is add a couple areas for player who want to battle enemies (possible each other)?
The players who don't want to be involved in anything related to combat would never have to go there. It could work and Im pretty sure the intelligent developers could work it into the lore/world. This game has a non violent feel to it, but there are forms of combat that are not as violent that probably would work here. For example, if you wanted to do a sort of pvp system, you could have laser tag, or foam sword (weapons) duels. As far as pve you could add new enemies in the newly made battle zones and add a hunting skill for player want to go out and hunt the monsters, maybe get resources from defeating the monster that would some how help the community like everything else in this game.

Posted 88 days ago by Nogoku | Permalink

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- NO.
  Posted 87 days ago by Serra | Permalink
- no......
  OP is missing the point of this game
  Posted 87 days ago by ₰ℓ№ʀ | Permalink
- Ok, we all get it, the general consensus is no.
  Can we talk about something nicer, like popsicles?
  Posted 87 days ago by Sororia Rose | Permalink
- Nogoku-just to give you an idea, have you ever played Minecraft? My son likes it. It's a sandbox game (you do what you want when you want). You can build houses and decorate with the blocks. You can collect stuff and create stuff and kill creepers (zombie like green bad guys). Is that what you are looking for?
  Posted 87 days ago by Holly Waterfall | Permalink
- (posted and immediately deleted, sorry)
  Posted 87 days ago by diaveborn ♥ | Permalink
- he's really talking about a stand alone *little area* where players can go and split pillows over each other (imagine the feathers flying!) or reach in your inventory for your pea shooter or spud gun!! omg..(the memories) - I'm not at all for 'combat' in general Ur but I do think it'd be pretty cool to head some place designated where I can experience a change of pace that would enhance my Glitch experience.
  So my answer is a BIG and resounding YESSSSS
  Posted 87 days ago by ~Arabesque~ | Permalink
- ...the area could be called 'the circus tent' and those who choose to play can throw custard pies :D (my brain is ticking over quite insanely now mwahahahahahahaha)
  Posted 87 days ago by ~Arabesque~ | Permalink
- Arabesque, new ticket areas, or another new type of area, makes sense. But the phrases in the OP - "work it into the lore/world" and "pvp system" and "hunt the monsters" - point towards an implementation of things that would worry me.
  Posted 87 days ago by diaveborn ♥ | Permalink
- its an okay idea i guess... I mean, having a Misc. island designated for Combat. With little Guns that shoot little things that do like -10 energy that cost a little, but are more as you go up. But u have to imagine the lag in Hell because person after person dieing. I see both good and bad ideas.
  Good thing im an Optimist
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  Posted 87 days ago by Taco Assassin | Permalink
- Sororia Rose, I love you. :D
  Popsicles.
  Posted 87 days ago by SeerQueen | Permalink
- I would, perhaps, say it might not be a *bad* thing to maybe have a party room {not a world location} where you "pillow fight" - this being different from a "combat" type scenario btw.
  Posted 87 days ago by Pixieyelsraek | Permalink
- I would be OK with self-contained mini-games that featured some form of humorous PvP, such as pillow fights or food fights, as long as these were at most a trivial source of iMG or currants and no badges were awarded for these.
  What Glitch cannot do, without becoming a different kind of game, is to have areas that are connected to the game economy, to player stats, or to the rest of the world where those entering are obliged to (a) defend themselves against other players who wish to engage in PvP, or (b) to become involved in simulated violence.
  I vote for Glitch being the same as itself.
  Posted 87 days ago by Splendora | Permalink
- While I appreciate that Nogoku is annoyed that people aren't agreeing with him, I think it's hilarious how immature he is in his Mature Discussion (and his bio).
  Anyways.
  Look, minigames like pillowfights or jousting (jousting! Wooden Poles y'all!) would be quite the fun time, but I personally don't particularly want Glitch to go down the "Fight to the death" route.
  I played WoW for many years, and in that time I saw it devolve from a pretty decent community to a bunch of abusive, whiny and irritating PvPers who could give a drunken sailor a lesson in filthy words to abuse people with.
  I *like* that pigs don't die when you nibble them, because in a game of shared resources that is the ideal thing - no one has to race anyone else to get meat.
  I *like* being able to wander wherever I choose without wondering if I'll be zapped to hell by someone with a weapon.
  There are 97 bajillion games (I counted) where you can wander out and attack players, animals, monsters etc etc and Glitch happens to be one where you don't. This is a good thing.
  But seriously, jousting. I would so joust. We could shrink down and ride cubimals at each other!
  Posted 87 days ago by Lyn Frog, Esq | Permalink
- Don't we already have a "combat" area... called Game of Crowns?
  Posted 87 days ago by Juniparr | Permalink
- YES! to everything Lily Frog, Esq said. Especially the first and last part.
  Posted 87 days ago by Mrs. Peacock | Permalink
- Juniparr, game of crowns is competitive but not really "combat" in the way that a pillow fight or throwing pies at someone would be. The current areas are more like races, and in fact the tickets are even called race tickets.
  That's why we've been talking about more areas in the race ticket category (although maybe their name should be changed): adding more of the "hi come join me please" ticket areas with silly glitchy-style-combat is a good compromise between doing nothing and adding on any sort of big system.
  Posted 87 days ago by diaveborn ♥ | Permalink
- Serious response: I honestly think it's great that you just started playing yesterday and you already have ideas and want to get involved. I really do.
  However I have to agree that you probably haven't been playing long enough to understand the kind of effect your ideas could have on the game and the community within it. I do love the idea of laser tag or pillow fights or something similarly cute and harmless in its own designated area, and I think most of the players here could respectfully participate in such activities without becoming obnoxious. However there is the minority, a definitely obnoxious minority who take pleasure in manipulating the tools available in the game to piss everyone else off. There have been numerous changes during the past year that I've been playing which have adapted to these issues and aim to keep this game as friendly as possible. If your idea was implemented, I think it would be great fun, and also I think it would be only a matter a time before someone found a way to exploit it and suck the fun out of a little friendly competition. I'm not usually so pessimistic, I just speak from experience.
  Anyway- yes, Glitch is a sandbox game. But also yes, you just became the new kid on the playground who's kicking that very sand in everyone's face who doesn't like your new rules.
  There is an ideas forum, by the way. :)
  Posted 87 days ago by Mrs. Peacock | Permalink
- I'm just wondering why you want glitch to be violent when there are so many other games out there that are. Glitch has never been violent and never will be. If you want war, I've played Halo and that sounds like your type of game. I don't like all these harsh comments, so I am just going to say a gentle, 'I don't think so.' :)
  Posted 87 days ago by NO DELETIN BACON>:O | Permalink
- It's so obvious the people who actually read my post and the people who did not, the folks who are under the impression I want to change the game in a way that would ruin it for them..
  I got you lil Frog I'm obviously immature because I have an opinion that differs from your own and have made a observation, ok.
  Posted 87 days ago by Nogoku | Permalink
- OMG BACON I hope your reply is a joke...
  Posted 87 days ago by Nogoku | Permalink
- Nogoku... no, it's really not a joke to say that there are "styles" to every game, and that the style of Glitch does not lend itself to pvp and pve.
  Posted 87 days ago by diaveborn ♥ | Permalink
- you can't be serious, because by your reply I would be lead to believe you didn't read...
  Posted 87 days ago by Nogoku | Permalink
- let me be clear...
  I LIKE THIS GAME!
  I don't want to take anything from anyone, I am asking for a added feature as a option. This would not be something every player would have to take part in.
  Posted 87 days ago by Nogoku | Permalink
- I love how most people only seem to think there's two options. Absolutely no violence at all, or absolute hardcore gore and murder everywhere.
  Posted 87 days ago by Nuebot | Permalink
- I, personally, did read your post. Thanks.
  I believe you that you don't want to negatively impact anybody's gameplay experience. But short of confining it to activateable tickets, it really could. Because people *are* here for a certain style of gameplay and not others.
  There is already a mechanism in place for saying "hey, I want to play a game. Please join me" that does NOT affect anybody who doesn't want to be affected. Adding areas to this works. But a pvp and pve type system would NOT be like that.
  Posted 87 days ago by diaveborn ♥ | Permalink
- I got you lil Frog I'm obviously immature because I have an opinion that differs from your own and have made a observation, ok.
  No, because you respond to differing opinions with sarcasm and eyerolling. If you'd like to have a mature discussion, please do, but don't then have a little temper tantrum about people disagreeing with you. Just sayin'
  Posted 87 days ago by Lyn Frog, Esq | Permalink
- Nogoku - have you tried game tickets, Game of Thrones or rook attacks? Those are all competitive/combat-themed elements that already exist within the game.
  Spend a little more time playing, and getting to know the community. I have a feeling you'll either A) begin to understand why many of us oppose PvP combat in Glitch or B) decide that your playstyle isn't generally upheld by the community and choose to find another game that better suits your desires.
  Posted 87 days ago by Aurora Dellaterra | Permalink
- @ Nogoku - I was being facetious in my (much earlier) comment.
  I think the problem was centered in your post title. The word "combat" is not a term easily accepted by the Glitch population. Maybe you should have said "competition".
  I believe you DO like the game and only want to put out a suggestion that, in your opinion, would add to the fun. The laser-tag, paint-ball, pillow-fight, jousting suggestions from long-time players have met with some measure of enthusiasm. I have played "combat" type games and enjoyed them but I like the warmth & friendliness of Glitch. There should be some happy solution to this idea.
  You have every right to make a suggestion. The fact that you are a newer player should be taken into consideration because you can't have experienced the nuances of the game yet. But you aren't a child. Respect works both ways. The reactions in this thread are just proof of how passionate we all feel about the game. It is unique and marvelous. We want to preserve the best aspects of it and are very protective of this world.
  Posted 87 days ago by Patricia | Permalink
- I think our rude eye-rolling buddy here is proving what kind of negative vibe the PVP mindset would bring to Glitch. -_-
  Posted 87 days ago by Odder Pu | Permalink
- Dude, Nogoku. You're not necessarily wrong, but you're not necessarily right. People aren't disagreeing because they don't understand what you're saying, and they're not disagreeing because they're immature. They are disagreeing because they have a different opinion. That's what a mature discussion means.
  So cool it with the sneers and the incredulity. You have an opinion. It is a valid opinion. It is also evidently a minority opinion. It happens.
  Posted 87 days ago by Annuska | Permalink
- Okay, so a ton of people have basically shut you down, but I just want to say that I think pillow fights would be super awesome! And also fit into the feel of Glitch. They could even raise your mood instead of lower it. I mean if you can "splank" someone with a piece of wood, how much LESS violent is it to waffle them with a feather-filled sack? Of course, it should be limited to a special arena, maybe a cloud-filled area, like Bippity-Bop.
  I think that would be pretty cool.
  Posted 87 days ago by Kross, the Empress | Permalink
- Has anybody actually been objecting to "race ticket" type areas with silly fight type things?
  Posted 87 days ago by diaveborn ♥ | Permalink
- Nogoku, it's like you walked into a vegan restaurant and ordered a steak. It's fine that you want one, but it's just not what you're going to be able to get.
  But try a vegan dish. You just might be surprised by how much you like it.
  Posted 87 days ago by MaryLiLamb | Permalink
- I think some of the suggestions here put into areas like that, diaveborn, sound wonderful.
  Posted 87 days ago by Little Miss Giggles | Permalink
- “But seriously, jousting. I would so joust. We could shrink down and ride cubimals at each other!” -Lily Frog
  +1. Yay for mini cubimal jousting! Maybe even with noodle jousting sticks, rather than pointy ouchie ones. :)
  “I love how most people only seem to think there's two options. Absolutely no violence at all, or absolute hardcore gore and murder everywhere.” -Nuebot
  This is true. Very black and white. Not so unusual, but I think we all need to stop and think about what is being said. The majority of us do not want combat the way it is implemented in most other games. I think this non-violence stance is valid and very in line with TS’ vision for the game. But I would also like to point out that there seems to be an apples and oranges argument going on here.
  Nogoku stated that he does not want gory, bloody violence. He wants pillow fights, water/laser guns, etc. I, personally, like the idea of pillow fights, cubimal jousting and, as was suggested in another similar thread, noodle cannons. These all take “combat-like” ideas and Glitchify them. The results can even be fun! Like, when hit with a pillow and it explodes, you gain a “light-as-a-feather” buff or you get a "Limp Noodle" item (or something silly) from the noodle wars. They don’t have to be violent at all.
  But, that being said, I don’t think that these areas should exist as “combat areas” in Ur. They would probably be better implemented with the race tickets, as others have mentioned. That way, they are completely optional and do not change the game mechanics, lore or create a segregated Ur.
  Posted 87 days ago by Zaeirra | Permalink
- If were talking different styles of Game Tickets,or Party Rooms, for food fights, pillow fights, Board Games, etc...etc.... thats one thing. As long as it fits within the construct of Glitch, non-violent not harmful, just for fun, goofy, or silly. As ANY kind of Arena though, the answer is just no. It doesn't fit in with the game, it would change why people like or are attracted to this game. It would change the atmosphere of this game dramatically. Just because game X, Y, & Z have PvP or PvE, and you thought it was fun and harmless, doesnt negate the fact that that doesnt mean it would work EVERYWHERE ELSE. In the case of Gltich, this game is meant to be non-violent, non-combative, a community, and yes adding very competitive aspects to gameplay would without question change the game as a whole, and as most are here because it is peaceful and fun, most of us would leave. So yes it wouldnt be in the best interests of the game.
  Posted 87 days ago by Lyrical DejaVu | Permalink
- Nogoku, I really hope you realize there's more to Glitch then the forums. Please don't judge the community by this discussion only. These things happen when new players come in here with a controversial idea: people jump on it and feel like they need to educate you about the spirit of Glitch.
  I would like to point out that there are some people who embrace your suggestion, in some way. Many seem to like the idea of more competitive race tickets. Try to focus on that instead of repeating your initial idea over and over.
  Posted 87 days ago by Victoria | Permalink
- OK:
  MOAN MOAN MOAN. I DONT LIKE YOU RANT RANT RANT
  Posted 87 days ago by Ultra-Dynamic | Permalink
- Oh! I totally forgot to add my own opinion. I like the idea of a more "combat-y" element. We already "fight" the Rook (I wouldn't really call it fighting - clicking orbs, donating to a shrine), but currently the Rook decide when to attack. I wouldn't mind a race ticket or something like that where you sneak up on the Rook. Like the old Rook's Woods quest.
  Also, Fox brushing can be quite a struggle :)
  Posted 87 days ago by Victoria | Permalink
- Guys! Did you even read the title? It says things like paintball, and pillow fights, and even food fights would be cool! . I think a non-violent kind of game could work! We don't have to pounce on this guy because some people think he is suggesting adding killing, maiming, hunting, and blow people up. Try to be a little more open-minded people!!!
  [EDIT]
  Oops! I didn't know the title was changed. Sorry!
  Posted 87 days ago by Misty Power | Permalink
- I realize that gore or blood type things weren't mentioned, however combative competition was. Also the original post said PvP areas, all the same a very competitive atmosphere, would change this game drastically from its original intentions, and not for the better, it would alter the game and not in small ways either. More game tickets and party rooms im for, uber-competiton that were not just for fun, would be a detriment to this games community however.
  Posted 87 days ago by Lyrical DejaVu | Permalink
- Misty Power, the title was changed.
  Posted 87 days ago by Victoria | Permalink
- Oops!
  Posted 87 days ago by Misty Power | Permalink
- No.
  I joined this game specifically because there was no combat element, and especially no PvP. The Rook attacks are a PvE element that I can deal with, but they act more like a natural disaster, such as an earthquake, than anything else. Even trying to disguise violence as non-violence with paint balls and pillows does not appeal to me.
  What the promotions for Glitch promised that I want more and more of is building and creativity. I don't want the staff to suddenly change their focus and the nature of the game to having PvP. With the focus on community and cooperation, I can also see PvP elements disrupting the atmosphere that I want from the community.
  Posted 87 days ago by KhaKhonsu | Permalink
- "Even trying to disguise violence as non-violence with paint balls and pillows does not appeal to me." -KhaKhonsu
  I don't think anyone is trying to "disguise" anything. That implies deception and manipulation. You are reading between the lines on that one. It's an idea. Just like how when you nibble piggies, you get meat, but you're "nibbling" them (silly and cruelty-free) not actually butchering them to get the resources. Glitch-friendly. Pillows are glitch-friendly, too, IMHO. And besides, if I'm not mistaken, Glitch is a game where there exists a certain cleverness and creativity in turning something potentially negative into a positive element through imagination and humor. So, I think embracing these suggested elements in a positive, fitting way, remains well within the spirit of Glitch.
  And more importantly, who dislikes pillow fights, anyway?
  "Onwards and Upwards."
  Posted 87 days ago by Zaeirra | Permalink
- I didn't see anybody say this, but afaik the Rooks Woods quest was not removed for its violence but to address mechanical difficulties with the mini game.
  Also, I find myself struck with the idea of a kukubee-drawn food fight mini game...
  ETA: and mini cubi jousting!!
  Posted 87 days ago by katlazam | Permalink
- I've played a game in the past where PvP combat was available but only in a small side area people could stay out of, which I did. But even then I occasionally got messages from players "inviting" me to go fight them. I put that in scare quotes because it was generally belligerent and pushy, I even got insulted for declining. Also, having an extra way to gain points and achievements etc that many players didn't want to participate in gave those that did an advantage. Given that area seemed to attract the ruder, more aggressive players, it wasn't great for the game. We just really don't need that mechanic and that dynamic in this game regardless of where it gets put.
  Also Nogoku you seem to have some weird idea that sandbox games must have all of everything included, there is no guiding culture or overall feel which needs to be adhered to. This is wrong in general and, more specifically, totally goes against everything about this game. There is a strong driving vision behind everything done here, something you might start to understand once you've been here more than a day or two. And any resources like developer time or processing power spent building sections of the game that don't fit that vision are basically wasted.
  Quotes from stoot barfield have already been posted above, he's the guy in charge of this whole place. He has flat out said he doesn't want combat to be part of Glitch, therefore there won't be any. I'm glad of this because I agree that adding formalised PvP anywhere in a game changes it in a way I, and clearly many others here, don't like. Maybe when you've been around a bit longer you'll understand where we're all coming from.
  Posted 87 days ago by shelleycat | Permalink
- this is kinda off thread but just gardening in my house yard and realised we can soak other players with our watering cans and I then realised I'd much rather chuck a water bomb!! You're gonna get soaked either way!
  Posted 87 days ago by ~Arabesque~ | Permalink
- I already posted my no above but to address the others thoughts about "non-violent" pillow fighting/jousting/food fighting and other mini-games. I am still not into adding them. Just my opinion. I still don't agree that there is a place here for those kinds of things. Something maybe like a tug-of-war might work as a mini game. Once upon the past there was talk of things like dodgeball and soccer type sports games. Competition is a tough idea to quantify what is okay and what is going too far. Creating innovative ideas is a great thing though you have to accept that some ideas work and some need to be tweaked.
  Posted 87 days ago by Holly Waterfall | Permalink
- I think it's not that most people think this: "I love how most people only seem to think there's two options. Absolutely no violence at all, or absolute hardcore gore and murder everywhere."
  Most people just don't want the violence to intrude in the game. And this is what we're worried about:
  Im pretty sure the intelligent developers could work it into the lore/world.
  I actually quite like the idea of additional race tickets providing pillow fighting/cubimal jousting/water ballooning, etc. But that was not really the original idea of this thread before.
  Posted 87 days ago by SeerQueen | Permalink

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