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Mature discussion: How about a little non lethal combat (optional) i.e pillow fights, paintball etc...

Listen before everyone runs in here attacking me, telling me how I am playing the wrong game or whatever, please hear me out first.

We live in a mostly negative world, what I mean by that is we live in a world where people like to focus on what can't be done far more than what can be done. As I write this out I am almost 100% sure I will receive more replies about how combat would not work in this game rather than how it could work. However I believe that a true sandbox game should be with as little limits as possible. Why not have combat? Who does it hurt? The truth is it would be simple to implement without hurting anyone. I am sure there are plenty of people here who just simply want to enjoy a social experience, but why not have it all? What I am suggesting is add a couple areas for player who want to battle enemies (possible each other)?

The players who don't want to be involved in anything related to combat would never have to go there. It could work and Im pretty sure the intelligent developers could work it into the lore/world. This game has a non violent feel to it, but there are forms of combat that are not as violent that probably would work here. For example, if you wanted to do a sort of pvp system, you could have laser tag, or  foam sword (weapons) duels. As far as pve you could add new enemies in the newly made battle zones and add a hunting skill for player want to go out and hunt the monsters, maybe get resources from defeating the monster that would some how help the community like everything else in this game.

Posted 88 days ago by Nogoku Subscriber! | Permalink

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  • No, also. Since I finished Myst (and Riven and the others) so many years ago, I've been looking for something similarly non-combat-oriented. I was happy to finally find a game that was not about combat, blowing things up and killing other players. Glitch is welcome oasis of puzzling tranquility in our combative worlds, real and online.
    Again, no.
    Posted 87 days ago by Snickersnee Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Fight for Peace!

    (Visualise whirled peas. No not onion rings)
    Posted 87 days ago by Feldspar Gravity Subscriber! | Permalink
  • say YES to onion rings

    BOOO PEAS!
    Posted 87 days ago by ☣ elf ☣ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Actually EDDIE's idea of a Mario style side game, be it jumping on things/each other or seeing who can release the most coins, sounds like it could be super interesting. I think more puzzle solving and in-game competitive opportunities (not just leader boards) would be great! But actual knock down, drag out combat? not so much. I enjoy Glitch because nothing's out there trying to kill me but more ways to engage with each other and the world would be totally ok.
    Posted 87 days ago by Mellitus Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I'm a let you in on super deep level spoilars that the devs don't want you to know. Glitch is a depiction of what you character's mind is seeing when they're deep in a psychotic delusional haze. Every time you pet a tree or feed a piggy, in the non-delusional world of the game your character is perpetrating heinous acts.

    I...I've said too much. I think there are some black vans pulling up outside.
    Posted 87 days ago by juv3nal Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I'd probably enjoy more competitive gaming opportunities like the Game of Crowns machine, but I wouldn't like combat.
    Posted 87 days ago by Wintera Woodswitch Subscriber! | Permalink
  • To the OP:
    I have read your post, and strongly disagree with having formalised combat mechanics introduced into the game.

    Whilst I am confident that the developers COULD successfully introduce specialised combat/PVP arenas into the game world if they wanted to, I do not see why this is necessary.

    You say that you "believe that a true sandbox game should be with as little limits as possible".  I do not see how you are currently prevented from engaging in competition with like-minded individuals - it just requires a little more imagination.  
    Example: Games like Fatal Frame/Project Zero (name varies depending on country of release) show how traditional weaponry is not compulsory.  We already have cameras in Glitch: a snap based form of competition over a set time period could be organised, and points totalled and a winner announced at the end.  This does not require changing any existing game mechanics, adding new areas to the world, nor does it disrupt gameplay those that do not wish to participate.
    Posted 87 days ago by Jheya Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Why is Glitch™ the same as itself?
    Posted 87 days ago by Splendora Subscriber! | Permalink
  • There are too many combat games already. I do enjoy destroying bad guys, but I also enjoy wandering around a game where everything is niceness and rainbows (well, mostly). There are a plethora of places where I can get the former, and very few places I can get the latter.

    More games that would be competitive without combat, violence, or too much focus on winning would be fun though, like the Super Mario idea.

    @Splendora LOL I hadn't seen that before! :~D
    Posted 87 days ago by Rannera Subscriber! | Permalink
  • actually I like the idea but it would have to be fun! I'm seeing the south park game I used to play where you could catapult cows at one another (omg it was hilarious...although not quite animal friendly).  

    Crowns scares the crap out of me, I think it's the time limit combined with the frantic running around that just brings me close to a heart attack.  If I was able to fling a piggy plop at a willing participant tho I'd be laughing my arse off (and hopefully racking up the img at the same time) hehehehe
    Posted 87 days ago by ~Arabesque~ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I always thought a zombie game for Zille-O-Ween would be fun... where you combat them either by just jumping over them to get to a goal and back (capture-the-flag-style) or maybe where you go through an area with a squirt-gun or something, turning zombies into NPCs that can help you or something. Not really combat, but something similar to it.
    Posted 87 days ago by Djabriil Subscriber! | Permalink
  • No!
    Posted 87 days ago by Suzy Spring Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Put my vote in the NO column please!
    Posted 87 days ago by Holly Waterfall Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Why is there no prostitution and securities fraud in Glitch?  I want prostitution and securities fraud.
    Posted 87 days ago by Meromorphic Subscriber! | Permalink
  • No thanks.

    I get why people like this kind of thing but most games on the market have combat in thousands of different scenarios we don't need another one. I find combat to be the more uncreative form of game play in a game and personally have no interest in it whatsoever. On the side I also get that Glitch is meant to please a wide range of people but I think no-combat makes it unique.
    Posted 87 days ago by Nytician Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Combat?  Why don't you just play another game? There's nothing saying you can play only one mmorpg.  I think if we had combat in Glitch, it would draw the wrong kind of player, and we would have even more griefing than we do now.
    I vote no.
    Posted 87 days ago by Phoebe Springback Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I'm not talking about killing and bloody violence, I'm talking laser tag and pillow fights type of combat.
    Posted 87 days ago by Nogoku Subscriber! | Permalink
  • No.
    Also, since you're level 3, you may want to play around a bit and see what you can do rather than making suggestions first. :)
    Posted 87 days ago by SeerQueen Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I thought this was a sandbox game yet this game seems to attract closed minded people, doesn't add up.
    Posted 87 days ago by Nogoku Subscriber! | Permalink
  • How about I simply say what I feel? My level is irrelevant.
    Posted 87 days ago by Nogoku Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Okay, fine. But I think if you just saw what happens around here a bit more, you may have a different opinion.
    Posted 87 days ago by SeerQueen Subscriber! | Permalink
  • so a while back, there was a quest that everyone had to do which was to go through a type of obstacle course and smash rook eggs.  due to the violent nature, tiny speck actually chose to remove the quest as it doesn't fit with the feel of the game - non violence and community collaboration.  

    not sure if anyone had brought that up before.
    Posted 87 days ago by Airya Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I think this game looks and plays great! I'm 27 years old and married, I'm a mature adult and enjoy the social aspect of gaming, I enjoy things like crafting, mining and alchemy. Its not that I'm in the wrong game. I'm just simply asking that a sandbox game add more sand. I feel like some of you guys are being over dramatic and not even looking at the bigger picture.
    Posted 87 days ago by Nogoku Subscriber! | Permalink
  •  not even looking at the bigger picture.

    Ok, look...a lot of us have been here a year or a lot longer.  In that time there has been a lot of changes to the gameplay of glitch, from how things look to where we live.  Many times (ive said this once already) someone new comes in and wants to add something that just does not fit into what Glitch is.

    Combat doesnt fit Glitch.  You will keep getting no for an answer over and over.
    Posted 87 days ago by ☣ elf ☣ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • It's possible to compete without fighting.  We have games like game of crowns, where people compete without doing virtual harm to others.   More of that perhaps?    I've always thought board games that you could carry around would be a nice fit in Glitch.  You might stroll down a street and see two or three glitchen with a scrabble-type board over their heads, and join in and compete that way.
    Posted 87 days ago by WalruZ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Yes.

    C'mon folks not even a little Ju Ju stomping or munching? They look delish :)

    The Rook is not combat. Just dumping stuff in a shrine with no strategy or skill needed. Stunning is just repetitive meditation without having people break an orb.

    This discussion feels like it goes back to a sense of mastery, though against other players as opposed to the single player feel of iMG tickets. 

    Plexus has that giant bubble that we can push back and forth...have it move a little faster and have an energy drop when hit by it....dogeball any one? 

    Foam swords doesn't  rise to the level "fighting, gore, and negativity". Also, the OP said negativity in context of the predicted responses...not that a PvP-esque interaction would be negative. 

    The main reason I don't think it would work is because Glitch, in particular, seems to have far greater latency that would preclude fair competitive play.

    Play Game of Crowns and have someone steal the crown without it looking like they touched you from your screen.  Or pretty much any of the race tickets and see someone an inch below you win the race. 

    I do play another Flash MMORPG (traditional hack and whack) It also has latency though it's far less visible than here. Though most of that game is static images and Glitch is interactive. 
    Posted 87 days ago by M<3tra, obviously Subscriber! | Permalink
  • WalruZ your idea is actually quite good!!! However why couldnt I also have the same option to invite my friends to a water gun, lazer tag or pillow fight?
    Posted 87 days ago by Nogoku Subscriber! | Permalink
  • What I adore about Glitch is its non-violence. So no combat, pretty-pretty please.
    However, I think having some other side-games like Game of Crowns, but maybe with Paintball or something would make a really nice non-violent PVP action element, if they were ever to go down that route. 
    But I really doubt TS would ever include combat in Glitch, since from the start they've wanted it to be non-violent.
    Posted 87 days ago by Loki Laufeyson Subscriber! | Permalink
  • elf, Glitch is a sandbox mmo, "dont fit" shouldnt even be a option here. Im not looking for bloody gorey violence here folks. Looking for a option to have some non lethal virtual battles with pillows, foam weapons or fake lazers in a special location.
    Posted 87 days ago by Nogoku Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Loki paintball is a great idea! 
    Posted 87 days ago by Nogoku Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Oh come on. Non-lethal? You can die here from doing the wrong thing to a butterfly at the wrong time. Why would 'fighting' need to be non-lethal? You've not died and gone to hell yet? Want some free no-no to sniff? Let me know if you do.

    Sheesh. Non-lethal he said.....
    Posted 87 days ago by Feldspar Gravity Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Wait Dorgan, I'm not understanding what your stance on this discussion is?
    Posted 87 days ago by Nogoku Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I haven't read any replies so maybe I'm repeating someone, but.

    This? Yes, sure. Because it wouldn't be a pervasive thing and it'd be just like the race tickets we have now.  It would be a fun diversion.

    A whole combat/pvp system with ties to the game lore? Heck no.  Even if I didn't partake in that, making it a big "system" thing *would* change the feel of the game.  Also I really don't like the idea of pve, either.  Chickens aside, I feel like I cooperate with the resources in the game, including animals, and I wouldn't want that to change for anything.
    Posted 87 days ago by diaveborn ♥ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • The first rule of Combat Club is don't talk about Combat Club!
    Sheesh, amateurs!
    Posted 87 days ago by Flash McPherson Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Yah OP you absolutely straight up dont get it.
    Posted 87 days ago by ☣ elf ☣ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • ok all knowing elf...
    Posted 87 days ago by Nogoku Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Note: I'm about to go to bed, so this may be a little babble-y.

    @Nogoku, for saying that people are closed-minded, you seem to be doing a bit of mind-closing yourself... open your mind to the possibility that a majority (from what I can tell) of the people who play this game want it to be without the violence and mindset that pvp/combat inevitably creates (focus on winning over others instead of co-operating or playing with them - am I on to something here people, or is this simply my interpretation?). In any case, like people are also saying, we can get that elsewhere. It's also possible to argue that sandbox means making up your own way of combat (someone recently did a version of the Hunger Games, for instance! :~D) instead of following pre-set rules, which one could actually view as restricting - the exact opposite of sandbox.

    You've given your suggestion, people have said what they mean, and most seem to mean something different from you. I'm glad you did though, because people are coming up with a lot of fun-sounding mini game suggestions. What do you think of those suggestions, by the way, I don't think you've said.

    @WalruZ Board games is a really cool idea! :~D Instead of a trade hub Cebarkul could become like that area in the park where all the chess tables are or something...
    Posted 87 days ago by Rannera Subscriber! | Permalink
  • *chews on popsicle*
    Posted 87 days ago by Sororia Rose Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Sororia Rose, I thought the food of choice for this kind of thing was popcorn? :D

    *insert popcorn.gif here*
    Posted 87 days ago by Rannera Subscriber! | Permalink
  • it was?

    but i like popsicles. they begin with the same three letters anyway. nom
    Posted 87 days ago by Sororia Rose Subscriber! | Permalink
  • NO.

    There are enough violent games already.
    Posted 87 days ago by KatyaR Subscriber! | Permalink
  • but but popsicles aren't violent games :c
    really they're very nice and they want to be your friend!
    Posted 87 days ago by Sororia Rose Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Yes. What Rannera said. Board game tables in Cebarkul would be awesome. While I'll still miss the traditional reason for going there (what with the vendor changes and all), it'd be good to add additional reasons for us to keep congregating there. I suck at chess, but I still enjoy playing it, so that'd work...
    (to add a Glitchy touch to it, maybe the rook piece could be made to resemble the bird, as opposed to the castle?)
    Posted 87 days ago by Jus​tin Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I WOULD LOVE A LITTLE COMPETITION!!

    People like to pick a side and people like to show off their skills one on one. I would love to see Glitch's take on combat. Something that fits within the world, something that's both cooperative and competitive.
    Posted 87 days ago by La Mariposa Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Well, I think this is an OK idea, but i don't really think it relates to the idea of Glitch itself
    The game is about Imagination and wandering around and having fun
    If we had a  "Battle Ring" it would really kind of ruin the purpose of the game, some people wouldn't really play the game, but only be battling, and some would leave it out while it might lead to quests of the battle ring and it wont go away until they fight against their will. I think we COULD have like, a kick option (like high five and hugs) with your emotional bear (Which would be flipping hilarious) and you could kick to the death but i think battle rings are a little too... Violent? For the purpose of the game. 
    Also, I haven't read the comments yet, but i see that the one above me talks about board games, THAT WOULD BE FUN! Kinda like the tickets but better :D 
    Posted 87 days ago by Sutton Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I'm sure popsicles are fine too. Personally, I'd probably prefer pop tarts...

    Justin, I didn't necessarily mean chess, since I kind of suck at it too. :D How about Ludo? Chinese checkers? (Rook, hehe)
    Posted 87 days ago by Rannera Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Seeing as how I am a referee for my family's laser tag company, I'd be amazed at how it would be in a game. Personally, I play this game for the social value and because it is very fun and addicting. However, I think that if violence were in fact going to become a "thing" in Glitch, it should have an arena. 
    Also, I'd love to help shape the layout of a laser tag game in this game :3

    Hit me up!
    Posted 87 days ago by ettu Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I don't really see how kicking people to death fits within Glitch either. Not to mention, kicking is pretty much universally considered to be a negative emotion, and I don't really think there should be an action built into the game with the purpose of expressing meanness.

    Now splanking is a different thing entirely. Some glitchen enjoy being splanked. (I'm not speaking for myself or anything, but...)
    Posted 87 days ago by Jus​tin Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Nope.

    If it's competition that you want, play the game tickets, or try Game of Crowns. If you want combat, check out a rook attack.  Have you tried any of those in-game activities, O All-Knowing Nogoku?

    But PvP combat, and all the nastiness that comes with it? Count me out.
    Posted 87 days ago by Aurora Dellaterra Subscriber! | Permalink
  • If my emo bear starts to kick people I'll be really freaking unhappy.

    I've not had a problem with splanking, myself, but some people do think it goes to far, so adding more on top of that doesn't seem great to me.  Plus kicking seems a lot less "silly" to me than splanking.  Like, I could interpret splanking as being silly because of the name or whatever but kicking is just... kicking.  :\
    Posted 87 days ago by diaveborn ♥ Subscriber! | Permalink