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A Glitchen Sleep Study: The Economic Advantages of Idling in Glitch

Here's a rough draft of my latest Glitch-based science.  
My methods are sloppy and my conclusions are suspect. 

A Glitchen Sleep Study: The Economic Advantages of Idling in Glitch

Hypothesis: Idling is economically advantageous to the glitch player over logging out because friendly glitches like to put things in sleeping glitches pockets. 

Conclusion

After about a half- game-day of Testing (the 15th of Remember in Year 20) research would indicate that idling is not a profitable endeavor. 

Of note, only one player appeared to have interacted with the player as indicated by the Local Chat / Activity Log during the period when then glitch was idling at the defined point of origin, and in that case, the interaction was not of a type that could be converted to currants for valuation. 

Specifically, Diablo played "Musicblock GNG" for the idling glitch while both were in the "Hell" region. There is no monetary reward for listening to another player's music block. The activity log indicates the non-monetary reward (increased mood) is negated due to it occurring in Hell. 

Note: One player interaction occurred outside of the point of origin, and was, also, without monetary reward. In this case, however, the interaction released in increased energy being accumulated.

Posted 10 months ago by HeyGabe Subscriber! | Permalink

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  • sounds like you need to do more testing m8.
    Posted 10 months ago by Token☆ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I agree. I did not control very well for things like location, social impact of the player character, time of day (real and in-game) or proximity to chickens.

    Additionally, a half-an-ingame-day is small sample. This is why I'm publishing my complete data set. I hope that one of you industrious glitchen will pick up this data and continue this important work. 
    Posted 10 months ago by HeyGabe Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I recommend trying this in cerbarkul and seeing how the results compare.

    Interesting experiment!
    Posted 10 months ago by Shepherdmoon Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I think a very good thing about AFK glitches is there is no risk of sleep apnea. 
    Posted 10 months ago by kevbob Subscriber! | Permalink
  • You should do an experiment with a new glitch versus your high level glitch. I personally check someone's level before giving them stuff just because I've had higher level players giving me back the stuff. So I tend to save the best stuff for new players.
    Posted 10 months ago by ☠ lala512 ☠ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • if you find me afk its probably my smoke break, anything longer than that i usually log out for.
    Posted 10 months ago by Token☆ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • [This post has been deleted]
    Posted 10 months ago by Pavida Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I tend to use Random Kindnesses on AFK/sleeping Glitchen that I pass...no monetary value, I'm afraid!
    Posted 10 months ago by Mocha Maid Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I am frequently the beneficiary of Random Kindness and I also bestow them a lot.

    While there is no direct monetary value, there is an indirect one:

    There is an energy cost and a mood cost while you are idling.  If you start with a full energy tank, you will run out of energy and die before the Glitch day is over unless you create energy either through eating or meditating or using icons/emblems.  

    Through the generosity of many Glitches, I have returned to my idling Glitch to discover that I have not lost as much energy as I should have because I have had many Bestows.  I know for certain that I have avoided dying several times due to this generosity.
    Posted 10 months ago by WindBorn Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Too funny!
    Posted 10 months ago by Gordon Lughsen Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I had considered including the *cost* of maintaining your level of energy at the point of going AFK, that would let you calculate the value of an RK, but I'm afraid I don't have the mathematic chops for working that numerical juju. 
    Posted 10 months ago by HeyGabe Subscriber! | Permalink
  • While it's not an economic advantage, sometimes idlers in Ajaya Bliss are seen to lay eggs in nests (or even have some yucky looking green gas)... :)
    Posted 10 months ago by diaveborn ♥ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I tend to use  my Rainbows when travelling to and from places and is probably the thing I do most to sleeping Glitchen. I do drop goodies into sleeping baby Glitch's bags but not higher levels ones, just  like lala512, and I suspect this is true of many people. 

    I would guess my behaviour is fairly common, so to get any meaningful result you would have to include RKs and compare gifts to high level players to gifts given to low level players
    Posted 10 months ago by IrenicRhonda Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Wow... HeyGabe, how long did it take you to research this all out?  I never knew that when you go AFK it might help you lol.  Hope you find out more! 
    Posted 10 months ago by FTW BACON!! Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Almost spit my coffee out on the first sentence:-) I agree with Token, time for more testing!
    Posted 10 months ago by Calamity Snood Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I try to give a RK to sleepers, then I worry that they were trying to die for a badge!
    But that is just me!
    ;-)
    Posted 10 months ago by Jolycan Subscriber! | Permalink
  • ..."or proximity to chickens".
    lolz
    Posted 10 months ago by Veghrt Subscriber! | Permalink
  • So, it doesn't pay to sleep around... *%@#! *sigh* There goes my retirement plan.
    Posted 10 months ago by Ooola Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I give a sammich to pretty much every sleeping Glitch I come upon.

    Inspited by Ms. Lute's excellent song:
    soundcloud.com/theremina-lu...
    Posted 10 months ago by Kookaburra Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Wednesday 29 Feb 2012 1100 GMT to 29 Feb 2012 1920 GMT. 
    Or 19th of Remember year 20; 1218. to 21st of Remember year 20; 1402. 

    A little over 8 hours real time. 2 deaths.
    East Spice next to the Paper Tree.

    Level 32.


    Figured I'd get spicers on their runs and perhaps a random person going for paper badges. As opposed to Ceba(spelling >.<) since there are tons of AFK'ers there all the time.

    Total haul: 10 all spice, 2 tp scripts, 4 oats, 5 Paper and a meat. 9 Random kindnesses (+450 energy) 1 Splank (-mood).

    ALL interactions were at East Spice (TOP) and none in HELL. 

    126 possible interactions*. 90 unique glitches. All interactions were on the 1st appearance with the exception of Desh which had seen me 7 times and would see me 4 more times. Bottom line if you need to buy some allspice...
    *132 "is here" however 5 glitches seemed to have taken a wrong turn and entered and exited within seconds at the same post. 

    I'll only post interactions. Glitch appearances will be noted by an empty time stamp. 
    I am PST, the 1st interaction at 0303 is 3 minutes after beginning the experiment.

    Feb 29 3:02:57AM
    Feb 29 3:03:54AM Captain Daisy bestowed Random Kindness on you. +50 energy (TOP)
    Feb 29 3:04:49AM
    Feb 29 3:09:47AM Frogger The Mad bestowed Random Kindness on you. +50 mood (TOP)
    Feb 29 3:11:58AM
    Feb 29 3:13:41AM
    Feb 29 3:14:23AM
    Feb 29 3:15:37AM Peeta M. gave you 5 Sheets of Paper. (TOP)
    Feb 29 3:16:13AM 
    Feb 29 3:18:14AM
    Feb 29 3:20:41AM
    Feb 29 3:31:04AM
    Feb 29 3:41:58AM
    Feb 29 3:45:11AM
    Feb 29 3:55:19AM
    Feb 29 4:05:28AM your BFF Morgan Kay is here! <--LOL ok added b/c it's a great name!
    Feb 29 4:06:47AM
    Feb 29 4:12:26AM
    Feb 29 4:12:43AM
    Feb 29 4:16:47AM
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    Feb 29 4:35:26AM
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    Feb 29 5:01:15AM
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    Feb 29 5:05:19AM
    Feb 29 5:09:55AM 
    Feb 29 5:11:24AM
    Feb 29 5:26:03AM
    Feb 29 5:31:04AM
    Feb 29 5:32:16AM Mirinesse gave you a Teleportation Script. (TOP)
    Feb 29 5:33:09AM gill288 is here!
    Feb 29 5:33:56AM gill288  thanks
    Feb 29 5:34:07AM Mirinesse just left for Flipside
    Feb 29 5:34:31AM gill288 gave you a Teleportation Script.
    Feb 29 5:34:34AM
    Feb 29 5:35:56AM gill288 just left for Flipside
    Feb 29 5:42:14AM
    Feb 29 5:42:50AM
    Feb 29 5:56:34AM
    Feb 29 5:59:27AM
    Feb 29 6:09:10AM
    Feb 29 6:10:31AM OHNOSQUIDS bestowed Random Kindness on you. +50 mood (TOP)
    Feb 29 6:19:00AM
    Feb 29 6:22:09AM
    Feb 29 6:24:13AM
    Feb 29 6:32:48AM
    Feb 29 6:34:18AM Pippa bestowed Random Kindness on you. +50 mood (TOP)
    Feb 29 6:36:17AM
    Feb 29 6:38:09AM Burgster just got the Fertilivert badge! (GRATZ!)
    Feb 29 6:44:23AM
    Feb 29 6:46:19AM
    Feb 29 6:53:11A
    Feb 29 6:53:57AM
    Feb 29 6:54:14AM
    Feb 29 6:59:12AM
    Feb 29 7:00:47AM Green Fairy bestowed Random Kindness on you. +50 energy (TOP)
    Feb 29 7:03:37AM
    Feb 29 7:05:21AM
    Feb 29 7:07:26AM
    Feb 29 7:09:38AM
    Feb 29 7:10:38AM Desh bestowed Random Kindness on you. +50 energy (Exception: 7th time player had run by me.)
    Feb 29 7:10:45AM Desh bestowed Random Kindness on you. +50 mood (TOP)
    Feb 29 7:11:44AM
    Feb 29 7:12:00AM
    Feb 29 7:19:17AM
    Feb 29 7:28:11AM
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    Feb 29 8:08:56AM
    Feb 29 8:12:54AM
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    Feb 29 8:17:08AM
    Feb 29 8:17:18AM Diva bestowed Random Kindness on you. +50 energy (TOP)
    Feb 29 8:22:57AM
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    Feb 29 8:41:13AM
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    Feb 29 8:59:21AM
    Feb 29 9:00:02AM Palindrome is here! (HELL. Read below. My interpretation is that Palindrome died just as the new day began. There is no "Palindrome just left for...." between here and her appearance at Esther, the Paper Tree.)
    Feb 29 9:08:21AM
    Feb 29 9:19:43AM
    Feb 29 9:20:34AM
    Feb 29 9:21:03AM
    Feb 29 9:21:04AM
    Feb 29 9:21:21AM derek smalls gave you 4 Oats. (TOP)
    Feb 29 9:28:42AM
    Feb 29 9:28:42AM Palindrome is here!
    Feb 29 9:29:45AM English is here!
    Feb 29 9:30:18AM Palindrome  Let's start your paper route ;)
    Feb 29 9:30:28AM Palindrome  Paper Tree Esther, at your service!
    Feb 29 9:30:48AM English  Nice. :P I remember Eastern Approach and Highland Fling. Anywhere else? :O
    Feb 29 9:30:51AM Palindrome  let's harvest together
    Feb 29 9:31:06AM Palindrome  ??? I've already harvested from this tree?
    Feb 29 9:31:12AM English  Oh no! :O
    Feb 29 9:31:13AM Palindrome  what?
    Feb 29 9:31:20AM Palindrome  i honestly don't remmeber being here
    Feb 29 9:32:15AM English just left for Flipside
    Feb 29 9:32:15AM Palindrome just left for Flipside
    Feb 29 9:32:57AM Pepper Baby gave you a Meat
    Feb 29 9:35:15AM Herp Derp is here!
    Feb 29 9:36:30AM Palindrome is here!
    Feb 29 9:37:23AM Palindrome  Any bug? I swear I was not here earlier this game day (except 8 min ago when I was here to attempt to harvest this tree)
    Feb 29 9:37:34AM               Herp Derp  Well, this tree has no paper left
    Feb 29 9:37:40AM Palindrome  it did earlier
    Feb 29 9:37:53AM Palindrome  it even said, you cannot harvest this more than once a day
    Feb 29 9:38:17AM Palindrome  I haven't harvested a paper tree in a while, least of all this one, I swear
    Feb 29 9:38:47AM               Herp Derp  OK. Can you submit a bug report during the next game day that this happens?
    Feb 29 9:39:01AM Palindrome  If it happens again :)
    Feb 29 9:39:03AM Palindrome  Okay
    Feb 29 9:39:05AM               Herp Derp  Right
    Feb 29 9:39:18AM Palindrome  Please keep this in mind, especially after last night's bug, there may be more unfound bugs
    Feb 29 9:40:28AM Palindrome  mine, fertilidust/ehsp, sno cones, alph donate, spice run, candy
    Feb 29 9:41:28AM Herp Derp just left for Louise Pasture
    Feb 29 9:41:41AM Palindrome just left for Baby Steppes
    Feb 29 9:43:26AM
    Feb 29 9:47:06AM
    Feb 29 9:48:25AM
    Feb 29 9:55:58AM
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    Feb 29 10:38:32AM
    Feb 29 10:44:30AM
    Feb 29 10:44:32AM
    Feb 29 10:45:25AM acronymph bestowed Random Kindness on you. +50 mood (TOP)
    Feb 29 10:45:55AM 
    Feb 29 10:48:02AM
    Feb 29 10:55:24AM
    Feb 29 10:56:04AM Transmorgatron splanked you! (TOP)
    Feb 29 11:00:25AM 
    Feb 29 11:02:05AM
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    Feb 29 11:07:41AM
    Feb 29 11:08:49AM 
    Feb 29 11:09:30AM
    Feb 29 11:11:02AM
    Feb 29 11:13:32AM

    126 possible interactions*. 90 unique glitches. All interactions were on the 1st appearance with the exception of Desh which had seen me 7 times and would see me 4 more times. Bottom line if you need to buy some allspice...
    ALL interactions were at East Spice (TOP) and none in HELL.

    *132 "is here" however 5 glitches seemed to have taken a wrong turn and entered and exited within seconds at the same post.
    Posted 10 months ago by M<3tra, obviously Subscriber! | Permalink