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Speeding up of learning (again)

I'm confused. Sorry!

I've read on the forums and wiki that one can spend favour to reduce the learning time by half. What does that actually mean? Is it the total time (which it doesn't seem to be, but I may be wrong!), or is it the remaining time (which it can't be, else one would never max out the speed, unless there is a little-known Giant named Zeno), or is it something else?

If I have a skill that starts off at 24 hours to learn, and the associated primary giant has a favour cap of 1000 (just to keep it simple, and ignoring secondaries for the same reason), in one game day I can reduce the learning time by (999*10/60/60=) 2.8 hours. The next game day, I can take off another 2.8 hours, and so on.

So, if I play diligently, after 12 hours, my skill learning time is reduced to (24-(12 hours of actual time)-(2 game days * 2.8))=9.4 hours. Except that that is reducing the total time by more than half: if I try and do that (ignoring the inevitable errors in my calculation), will I max out the learning speed? I haven't done the maths, but I don't think that that's what's happening (I've been doing donations at more than 1000 cap and not noticeably hitting the cap in two game days).

Can someone point out the error in my workings, please?

Posted 14 months ago by FlickGC Subscriber! | Permalink

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  • The favor cap increases whenever you max it out and collect the emblem.  Some of my giants can accept donations up to 2000 or so in one game day.  I also like to prepare for upcoming skills by collecting emblems and then spending all of them at once when I begin learning the skill.

    The sooner that you start cutting down the time, the better.  From what I understand, the halfway-mark decreases proportionately with the time left to learn the skill.
    Posted 14 months ago by Sparklebooty Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I have just recently updated my guide to better explain (I hope) how it works. http://www.glitch.com/forum/general/9667

    Look under spending favor. When you are speeding up your learning, you are learning at double speed, which means you don't have to speed up your learning all the way, but need to extend your speed learning before your double time expires.

    Using your 1000 favor example, you would have to spend more favor before the 2.8 hours expires in order to maintain double speed. If you only use your primary giant, you will go double speed for 2.8 hours, then normal speed for 1.2 hours (assuming at this point your original skill time was longer than 6.8 hours). If you wait til the next day, you could speed it up another 2.8 hours (assuming over 5.6 hours of learning left to do), but the 1.2 hours of normal learning that expired between then you cannot go back and speed it up, so you lost a potential .6 hours of speed learning.

    It's a very confusing formula, but if you can get your head around it, it makes sense. I find it easier just to raise the caps and do it all at once then wait each game day.
    Posted 14 months ago by Zu Subscriber! | Permalink
  • The problem with your computation is that you found the amount of learning time left after spending 2000 favor points and learning for 12 hours already.  So the total learning time would be 12+9.4 hours, which is certainly not less than half.
    Posted 14 months ago by larky lion Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I think it's "reduce up to half of the current duration needed to learn the skill". Think of speed learning as the cool down of your time reduction may be easier to understand? I'm not good with words so not sure if I'm explaining it correctly...
    Posted 14 months ago by Elly Subscriber! | Permalink
  • You can reduce up to half of the REMAINING time.
    Posted 13 months ago by Audaria Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Sparklebooty: Yes, I know, I was just trying to keep the maths simple!

    Larky Lion: Doh! Yes, of course. Thank you.

    Elly and Audaria: but only up to a limit, else you'd never stop being able to spend favour to reduce the remaining time. I'm trying to find out what the limit is.

    Zu: Thanks for that, and for the guide. I think I get it, now: the max speed up is half the remaining time, up to the limit of half the original time, right?
    Posted 13 months ago by FlickGC Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Yes,  if you speed up constantly from the moment you start learning, you can halve the original time
    Posted 13 months ago by shhexy corin Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Flick, in simple terms, yes. Shoot for 50% cut in learning time.
    Posted 13 months ago by Zu Subscriber! | Permalink