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Serious Routes

Tired of loading home street after home street for only a handful of disorganized resources? Are you spending more time searching for those few trees you're after than you are actually harvesting them? If you're serious about gathering resources, Serious Routes are for you.

Serious Routes mandate a minimum of 12 units of the route type, and most of our members have the maximum possible (e.g. 15 for trees). This means less loading, less searching, and more harvesting. Simply put, you get more, faster.

We are currently accepting members to all routes listed on the site. Our tree routes use the top sign and our other routes use the bottom, so as to allow members to also participate in the corresponding HRR routes (which use the opposite). If you're interested in joining a route, please contact the route's curator.

And if you're interested in curating, joining, or just using a Serious Route that doesn't exist yet, let us know!

edit: You can find the new Serious Routes thread here: http://www.glitch.com/forum/offtopic/23804/

Posted 6 months ago by Lx’s Ghost Subscriber! | Permalink

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  • Could you please add me to a Herbs route, I have 7 or 8 herb plots available (large ones) and happy to keep them that way.

    Let me know please.
    Posted 6 months ago by katykicker Subscriber! | Permalink
  • invite plz!
    Posted 6 months ago by MsKelseyClaire Subscriber! | Permalink
  • For anyone considering peat: The bogs fill back up in about 10 real-time minutes, at least after they've been dug halfway. You'll have plenty of use out of them for all your visitors! Please consider joining!
    Posted 6 months ago by Csophae Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Please note that the "SRS: Serious Routes" group is unaffiliated with Serious Routes and absolutely not endorsed by Lx or me. 
    It was created without our knowledge or input and goes against the original vision of Serious Routes to provide the most efficient method of delivering resources. Please continue to communicate with route curators directly (as they are listed on the site). If you have any general questions about Serious Routes, please contact Lx directly through email (lx@glitchium.com), or send me a message in-game and I'll pass it on.
    Posted 6 months ago by tis Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Csophae, I'll be using the peat route & have been dying for one to start!
    Thanks for setting it up :)
    Posted 6 months ago by xombiekitty Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Just wanted to repeat, since some people who messaged me have been a bit confused - 

    You need at least 12 Jellisac mounds which results in at least 36 Jellisac clumps

    Thanks to all the guys who have joined the route so far! :) Please mail me or butler message me if you want to be added, I don't always check this thread.
    Posted 6 months ago by Helvete Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I got a bit confused yesterday going through the bubble route.  I thought I'd start on the original resource route and then move onto the serious bubble route.  The only trouble is for bubble (for others that may have the same idea) is that many of the bubble players belong to both routes now, so in the end I gave up on the serious route as I'd already visited many of them on the main resource route.  

    These 2 routes really need to be separate if they're going to be advantageous.
    Posted 6 months ago by ~Arabesque~ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Yeah, I agree Arabesque. Working on it!
    Posted 6 months ago by HAVOK PEW SUMMERS Subscriber! | Permalink
  • @Arabesque I don't necessarily think that the two routes (for any resource, not just bubble) should be exclusive. As long as each route is using a different sign position, a person can choose whether to visit the regular route, serious route or both. If I've been to a previously-visited stop on one route while working my way through another, I just move along to the next street down the list. Easy, takes just a few extra seconds.

    Doing both full routes would net the same number of resource units regardless of whether they're separate or overlapped.

    I'm on both bubble routes in order to maximize my visitor-iMG potential. If there were five bubble routes, I'd want to be on all five. :)
    Posted 6 months ago by dm Subscriber! | Permalink
  • They are in effect exclusive. One is called the serious route and then of course the original bubble route.  So it is better for a resource collector to be able to visit each individual route because we do get more resources. 

    You had more patience than me! lol  When I realised going through the main route how many were overlapped I realised it was a waste of time (for me at least) to pick through the serious route :?

    I know some routes have been capped due to length? Is the bubble route one of these?  If I was a curator I'd hack those on the serious route off and add other bubble players who would love to come onboard so that more glitchen are a part of the route system and then we would have 2 distinct routes with more bubble for all :D  I suppose it is easy to skip over players but for me it's just unecessary.
    Posted 6 months ago by ~Arabesque~ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I honestly don't know how many people running the resource route are actually making it to my street these days. Between the time I joined HRR bubbles and the time I joined Serious bubbles, I had many, many days with no visitors whatsoever. After all, I'm 25 streets down the HRR list, after a long string of 14- and 15-tree streets. People are either filled up or bored grinding before they ever reach my bubbly boulevard.

    So yeah, the HRR bubble route has too many people on it. I'd be in favor of splitting it into several smaller circuits that are tied together by one curator utilizing one sign for each circuit, much the same way Scarlett Bearsdale connects several routes.
    Posted 6 months ago by dm Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Tis, how is it inefficient to have a group?  It makes it easier on everyone involved, gives your curators an easier time seeing who is on the route, makes it easier to find the website.  It has absolutely no effect on how efficient it is to run the routes.  In fact, it's much more efficient then expecting newcomers to read through this now 6 page thread.  

    Neither of you even had to set it up.  So what gives?  

    If you have a great answer, I'll accept it.   Otherwise I want off the serious bubbles and will no longer direct traffic to Havok.    
    Posted 6 months ago by Red Sauce Subscriber! | Permalink
  • The site itself (seriousroutes.com) provides all needed information, including complete route lists and links to curators for direct contact. No one is required to sort through 6 pages of this thread to obtain important information regarding the routes. I'm open to hearing how having a group makes it easier, but for now I only see it as complicating a very simple concept.
    Posted 6 months ago by tis Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Thank you Saucelah for saying much more effectively what I was thinking. 

    Have you even looked at the group tis? The delay in getting information from you, to Lx or even to Lx and then to the seriousroutes site can be avoided though the group. seriousroutes.com can still be updated. What I don't understand is why a player that has been banned wishes to continue to facilitate a website for players in the game.

    Also, Lx needs to be removed from the Serious Spice route. Not only is he a banned player but, there are NO Spice Trees and a waste of time loading the street. 

    Now that this thread has grown to 6 pages and soon to be 7 the group seems to be a much more effective way for curators and players to communicate. The group is trying to continue with the same concept that Lx started but also make it easier, when the game opens up, for new players to join in.
    Posted 6 months ago by KinOfWolf~♥ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • But... Serious Routes belongs to tis (and the late Lx, obvs). 
    They can decide how they'd like it run.

    *shrugs*

    Just my .02.
    Posted 6 months ago by Joan Holloway Subscriber! | Permalink
  • For the record, I set up the SRS group without consulting with Lx or Tis. 
    I believe in the Serious Routes concept; I think intensive routes are important.

    When Lx was ban-hammered, I was in the midst of setting up Serious Metal, and wanted an easy way to reach out to:
    a) see what interest there was, 
    b) communicate to some of the ppl who were transitioning out of HRR's Metal route (aka, the Route of Destiny) and keep them in the loop about the Serious Metal route's progress.
    c) I also saw this now overlong thread as being incredibly noisy, and had already put my foot in it by MISSING someone who had earlier expressed an interest in Serious Metal. In part because their comment was mixed up with LOTS of other comments. 

    That led me to think: "Hey, groups! I'll be helpful!"

    But in acting swiftly, I put my foot in it. Again.

    The disadvantage of having anything in groups is that Lx can't see it.
    And now that I've created it, there's no mechanism to delete it.

    TL;DR: I set up a group that some people seem to like, others do not, and that the founders of Serious Routes have expressed some dismay with.

    I'm out of moves; I'm sorry, and now I'm going back to tending my route.
    Posted 6 months ago by CrashTestPilot Subscriber! | Permalink
  • @CTP - I'm pretty sure if you attempt to leave the group you will receive a warning that the group will then be deleted.
    Posted 6 months ago by Goodnight Groddle Subscriber! | Permalink
  • @ Coheed Kilgannon and Crashtestpilot,

    Only if there are no other people in the group. That means CTP will have to kick everyone out first and then leave the group for it to be deleted. I did that with a project of mine that fell through before the release of Housing R1.
    Posted 6 months ago by Mal'akh Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Ah, good to know, thank you.
    Posted 6 months ago by CrashTestPilot Subscriber! | Permalink
  • TLDR but what's the problem with CTP making a metal route? Routes are for all I thought.  I had a quick flick throught to the off-site serious route page (which always makes me nervous) as when I'm in glitch, I stay in glitch (virus terrified always am I) - so group pages make more sense as that's why TS gave them to us, so we could all access and search alike. 

    I guess I don't understand the purpose of creating a web page when everything is here to use.
    Posted 6 months ago by ~Arabesque~ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • There is no problem with CTP making a metal route. He is a Serious Routes curator, as listed on the site.
    Posted 6 months ago by tis Subscriber! | Permalink
  • seriousroutes.com is owned by whomever pays for the site.

    I agree with what you said Arabesque. group pages make more sense and were set up for us to use by TS and I, too, don't like going to off glitch pages. 

    CTP..  you did no wrong starting the group to help clear the noise and clutter for all curators. 
    "The disadvantage of having anything in groups is that Lx can't see it." as you said. it's Lx's own fault and problem not yours.
    I will continue to participate in your group CTP. 
    Posted 6 months ago by KinOfWolf~♥ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • At the end of the day, here's what I personally wish to accomplish: I want to have my HRR metal route and keep that happening for those players who are prosocial and want to involve everyone. I want to have my Serious Metal route that serves those who want more resource intensive routes.
    I think there is a need for intensive routes, AND social routes. These are not mutually exclusive cases. These different routes appeal to different constituencies.  I want to support these constituencies.
    And I want to continue to have fun in game.   And have fun with route members and participants to contribute img to one another.
    Not here to do anything other than that.
    Srsly not interested in flogging the drama llama.
    Posted 6 months ago by CrashTestPilot Subscriber! | Permalink
  • The long and short of it is, the Serious Routes are tis and Lx's baby, not ours. We're members and curators. We didn't start them, we didn't set up the site. With Lx gone from the in-game world, but not, you know, banned from life or anything, he can't see the groups. CTP started the group, CTP just said, right up there, what amounts to whoops.

    The group doesn't clear up any "noise and clutter" for us curators, like KinOfWolf said. It had become an additional place I felt I needed to check each day for add requests, on top of this thread, my butler, and my mail. If you want in the group, I have to add you anyway to put you on my top sign. Add me, and leave me a message in game however you want, or here in the official thread. I'll tell you who to link to, check your signpost out, and make sure the route is fine. Then I'll add you to the route on seriousroutes.com. Easy peasy. Do you see how neither Lx or tis are involved in that process? No waiting on them to make changes, so the group isn't needed for that.

    I, for one, realize that this isn't mine, I'm just allowed to play with it. I also realize we can't force you to stop using a group. But at the end of the day, I'll respect someone else's project and take it like they give it to me.
    Posted 6 months ago by Darius Atrepes Subscriber! | Permalink
  • +(approximately)10000 Darius 
    Posted 6 months ago by Joan Holloway Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I love the website of lx and tis....BUT on the other hand... I miss a sense of community feeling if we only use the website. Think about MERL...they like to hang out together, chat and so on. I would like to see a group building in the future for members of the SRS routes. We play Glitch, and with the huge loss of Lx ..I think the creation of the group is a step forward and for everybody to use and reach.
    If tis or Lx feel in their hearts that this isn't okay --- maybe I should leave too. Glitch is fun right?
    Posted 6 months ago by Atlantis Subscriber! | Permalink
  • As someone from HRR who did not create it but has been given the freedom to run his route how he chooses, where he chooses, when he chooses; who has been asked for his opinion, along with every other curator, before every major decision and launch; whose role as a curator involves more than being a message folder and data entry servant for a banned player, I feel sorry for you that you do not have enough self-respect to think that your opinions and involvement matter.  You should expect better treatment from others in life; otherwise, you won't get it.  

    Hey, we even have an incredibly functional, more-than-just-a-list website about to launch, and every curator has the ability to log in and change their own route.  Expect more.  
    Posted 6 months ago by Red Sauce Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I can log into the website and change my route, just FYI. I'm respectful enough to realize that this is Lx and tis's creation just as much as Glitch as a whole is stoot's and the team's. I don't go and take a crap on their doorstep because I don't get everything I want, or get things I don't want. Also, insults? Then you, sir, I expect smell of shrimp.
    Posted 6 months ago by Darius Atrepes Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I did not insult you -- I gave incredibly positive advice.  And I'm sorry, apparently tis and Havok both misinformed me, they have told me that tis is the only non-banned player allowed to access the website.  Perhaps you are a close friend of Lx?

    I honestly think you should expect more. Scarlett owns HRR, but she is wise enough to understand that if she dictates rules and forces them to be followed, then she will lose support and be useless, just be a focus of drama.  Sort of like this thread.  

    And tis, I am still on the website.  I do not wish to be.  
    Posted 6 months ago by Red Sauce Subscriber! | Permalink
  • As someone who is not on nor part of either route group, I have been reading this thread while trying to decide which street/resource I might want to be a part of. My concern and or question is regarding Lx and whether there is any expectation of them(him?) coming back to glitch as a regular player any time soon, or in the future for that matter. If not, then as a 'member' of Serious Routes I would want someone else to either take over the website or as mentioned previously have a group started here on glitch.com. Nothing personal with Lx but anyone who is no longer a 'player' may and can at anytime become bored/uninterested/busy elsewhere/etc, and that website could and would become 'dead' at any time.
    So there is a need for a 'group' created locally or at least a back-up for a possible dead website...
    Posted 6 months ago by Sir Mixalatte Subscriber! | Permalink
  • How about starting a new group - SRR - Single Resource Routes.  
    Posted 6 months ago by WalruZ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • FYI, Lx has given curators the ability to update the website, which is pretty damned cool, and I thought a very pro-social, pro-crowdsourcing, open architecture, transparent bit of awesomesauce.

    Can we all stop kvetching now?
    Bring back the fun?
    Yay routes?

    Anyone?
    Posted 6 months ago by CrashTestPilot Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Yes, Walruz. SRR, HHR, SRS, SARS, and HRR. more acronyms for all!

    Also, yes. Yey routes! Whichever you're on or use.
    Posted 6 months ago by M<3tra, obviously Subscriber! | Permalink
  • So I was added to the bean route, added Ms Sparklz to my signpost, but my name hasn't been put on the website yet. I see that Master Blaster (who is listed on the website) has Ms Sparklz on his signpost as well, so I think Master Blaster should have me on his signpost, or I should have him on my signpost. Either way.
    Posted 6 months ago by Burt Macklin Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I think a big thing that would increase efficiency of managing the routes is telling people to add the first person on the route to their bottom sign before asking the curator.

    I can't tell you how much time I've wasted replying to messages telling people to change their bottom sign to [x player] and whilst waiting for a response received requests from other players to join that I can't respond to until I get a response from the first player :|

    I am 100% passive about the existence of a group, fwiw. If I have to join it, then I'll do that, but I don't really feel that it would benefit me or make my job easier. I almost get where you're coming from Saucelah, but I don't really get what you mean by "expecting more". There is nothing I want or need from Lx or tis; now that I can update the website myself I have 0 need to be in contact with anybody and I certainly don't need a group for the purpose of being social. I guess I'm just an asocial glitch.

    As for, "I did not insult you", Saucelah, I feel that you must have forgotten that just minutes earlier you wrote "I feel sorry for you that you do not have enough self-respect". If you don't like "Serious Routes", the creators or the concept, then I understand that, but I don't really understand why you feel the need to hang around the thread inciting drama. Or well, I do understand *why* you do it, but I wish you wouldn't.
    Posted 6 months ago by Helvete Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Well said, Helvete.
    Posted 6 months ago by Joan Holloway Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I had a lovely conversation with Tis yesterday, and I get now how things started in the beginning (do we make a group or not , and why not) and I would like to see the group go. We have acces to the site and tis is our head chef ;-) and lets have fun again. I do understand crashtestpilot for starting it, but now we can move on :) YAY for the serious routes!

    I will start by leaving the group as we speak ... and only focus on the site!
    Posted 6 months ago by Atlantis Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I will have 15 spice trees once again, within 5 hours. I expect a shiny star.
    Posted 6 months ago by Rook Subscriber! | Permalink
  • hahahaha you GET a shiny star lololol
    but not from me..I am into the EGG business ;-)
    Posted 6 months ago by Atlantis Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Tony Twinkle is now on our peat route with an additional 17 peat bogs to share! :D
    Posted 6 months ago by Csophae Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Why does the this particular group use the main forum for coordination?  I'm confused as to why this isn't done within a group, but I don't use the routes so maybe I'm the only one bothered by it. ;)
    Posted 6 months ago by Sloppy Ketchup Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Agreed, Sloppy. This should be in the group forum.
    Posted 6 months ago by Shepherdmoon Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Because there isn't a group.
    Posted 6 months ago by Csophae Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I understand that it's not a group as such, but practically speaking it's a group no one has to sign up for [edit] and a thread that is visible to Lx whereas a group thread wouldn't be [/edit] If every bunch of people with a common interest or goal decided to use threads in the main forum to discuss group issues and organization then regular posts would get buried. I don't take issue with groups using the main forum to introduce themselves, but to use this thread for group maintenance seems strange to me.
    Posted 6 months ago by Sloppy Ketchup Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Thank you! 
    Posted 6 months ago by Rook Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Few things to note: This forum thread was not originally designed to handle route operations. It was created with the intent to introduce the routes and provide an avenue for general feedback and discussion about the launch of SR. All route business should be handled via direct communication between curators and members. Unfortunately, these points weren't emphasized in the original post and now it cannot be edited. 

    I share many of the frustrations explained above and for that reason, I've been hesitant to bump the thread. The fact of the matter is, the Serious Routes system will continue to function whether or not there is a thread on the main forum. Because of that, and combined with the fact that the OP cannot be edited, I will do my best to request that this topic gets locked down.

    I also understand that people would probably still like to have an avenue for socializing and discussing the route operations, so I will be creating that thread in the "Off Topic" section as soon as I can get this one locked down.
    Posted 6 months ago by tis Subscriber! | Permalink
  • :D great idea :)
    Posted 6 months ago by Atlantis Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Thanks for the response tis- that's a really thoughtful solution!
    Posted 6 months ago by Sloppy Ketchup Subscriber! | Permalink
  • You can find the new Serious Routes thread here: http://www.glitch.com/forum/offtopic/23804/
    Posted 6 months ago by Herp Derp Subscriber! | Permalink
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