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#### Brain Capacity: 85/37 Skills 940% time penalty

WARNING: WHAT IS WRITTEN BELOW MIGHT NOT BE TRUE. THE AUTHOR OF THIS POST WILL NOT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING. ONLY A FOOL WOULD TAKE ANYTHING POSTED HERE AS A FACT. FOR MORE FAKE MATH SEND CURRANTS.
I'm bad at math so I'm not sure I'm doing this right, but I'd like to figure out the numbers behind this one. The way I understand it, 5% is added on any previous time+penalty for every skill beyond the brain capacity. Here is the basic (well, basic if you've previously learned BL5) brain capacity table, together with percentage of time penalty.
0-37 - 100
38 - 105
39 - 110
40 - 116
41 - 122
42 - 128
43 - 134
44 - 141
45 - 148
46 - 155
47 - 163
48 - 171
49 - 180
50 - 189
51 - 198
52 - 208
53 - 218
54 - 229
55 - 241
56 - 253
57 - 265
58 - 279
59 - 293
60 - 307
61 - 323
62 - 339
63 - 356
64 - 373
65 - 392
66 - 412
67 - 432
68 - 454
69 - 476
70 - 500
71 - 525
72 - 552
73 - 579
74 - 608
75 - 638
76 - 670
77 - 704
78 - 740
79 - 776
80 - 815
81 - 855
82 - 898
83 - 943
84 - 990
85 - 1040
86 - 1092
*more numbers, could be off few percents due to decimal cut back*
87 - 1147
88 - 1204
89 - 1264
90 - 1327
91 - 1394
92 - 1463
93 - 1536
94 - 1613
95 - 1694
96 - 1778
97 - 1867
98 - 1960
99 - 2058
And this is where I stopped calculating, because with 85/37 skills learned, I've got 940% time penalty, so I've made a mistake in the formula or in the numbers somewhere. This is why I ask brainy citizens of Ur to come to my aid and show me where I went wrong.
* While there are no decimals here, I assure you I've calculated with 2 decimals, but it would be a pain to write them
*** I double checked nothing

Posted 7 months ago by Electric Wizard | Permalink

### Replies

- 99/37 skills, 2062% time penalty (no brain upgrades now)
  After learning Transcendtal Radiation II, the penalty is the same (since it had already included it while learning), so the grand total with no brain upgrades is:
  100/37 skills, 2062% time penalty
  Posted 7 months ago by Janitch | Permalink
- And does anyone know how the Speedier Learning cards affect learning times?
  Posted 7 months ago by IrenicRhonda | Permalink
- PS This
  math.about.com/library/blco...
  compound interest calculator agrees with your figure of 1092 at 86 (49 years)
  Posted 7 months ago by IrenicRhonda | Permalink
- I think it's just a matter of wording:
  Your learning time is at 1040 so a penalty of 940 has been added to your original 100%.
  Posted 7 months ago by Vic Fontaine | Permalink
- I've calculated some more and it seems that Janitchs numbers match up, but mine are off by two skills
  @Togger, 940% already has the original 100%, I think
  Posted 7 months ago by Electric Wizard | Permalink
- I want more bad math, I will send 500,000 currants
  73/37 skills was 479% penalty, iirc
  Posted 7 months ago by ☣ elf ☣ | Permalink
- Brain Capacity:
  99/37 Skills
  2062% time penalty
  Currently learning the last skill. Plus had all my brain capacity cards taken out on that. Not bought any more since. Same as Janitch as it seems
  Posted 7 months ago by jiva | Permalink
- elf, you've got 40 brain capacity, not 37. I wasn't talking of that bad math:D
  Posted 7 months ago by Electric Wizard | Permalink
- This is what it is for me:
  99/37 Skills
  2062% time penalty
  Posted 7 months ago by Rah | Permalink
- Using a compound interest generator with my values (99/46 = 1294%), it appears to 4.95% "interest" per level beyond what I know.
  However, running it with other people's numbers indicates that's off. It's very close to 5% for most of them.
  For the 99/37 people, 5.005% seems to be about right.
  For the OP at 85/37, 4.78% seems right.
  This leads me to conclude that there must be some kind of "x% for the first n skills and z% for the next n". Or something like that.
  Posted 7 months ago by Credulous Ralph | Permalink
- I'm with Janitch and Rah:
  99/37 Skills
  2062% time penalty
  = I still have 7 days and 20 hr left to learn Transcendental Radiation II
  Posted 7 months ago by Dahlia DreadNaught | Permalink
- I currently have:
  100/46 Skills
  1294% time penalty
  Posted 7 months ago by Ygasuasu | Permalink
- Come on math enthusiasts, help me figure this out!
  Posted 7 months ago by Electric Wizard | Permalink
- 99 skills with a maximum of 37 before brain degradations with 5% increase per skill learned afterwards....99 x.5 - 37 +99/.567
  so if x=.547 then we just need to take into account the quadratic equation
  x= -b + or - the square root of b squared minus 4ac all divided by 2a
  then take the cosine of the root factored diameter of the circle of Ur and then divide it all by the amount of giants then divide again by 0....and we get
  ERR
  i think my calculator is broken.
  Posted 7 months ago by Papa Legba | Permalink
- @Ama-gi Is there a reason you don't think it's compound interest, as I suggest?
  Posted 7 months ago by Credulous Ralph | Permalink
- Well, IrenicRhonda's calculator, which is pretty much the same as yours is giving me correct numbers for everyone in this topic - except me. I hope to get some more feedback so I can figure out if this is a bug or if there's some other formula behind it all. It would be best if a dev would tell us more, but those guys are busy making some really cool stuff and I'd rather not distract them.
  Posted 7 months ago by Electric Wizard | Permalink
- I'm also at: 99/37 skills, 2062%
  Finish the last skill in a little over 3 days from now. ><
  New skills that come out are going to be a bitch since I don't want to unlearn anything!
  Posted 7 months ago by Serra | Permalink
- 96/41 Skills1594% time penalty
  that was it for me. it was even higher before i upgraded brain capacity.
  Posted 7 months ago by Airya | Permalink
- I'm at 100/43 with 1514% time penalty...
  Posted 7 months ago by Cabinwood | Permalink
- 99/40 1760% penalty
  Posted 7 months ago by EarthtoGrace | Permalink
- No penalty/60
  Posted 7 months ago by Vogon Blarg | Permalink
- I have 46/37 with a 55% penalty. Unlearning is there for a reason people!
  Posted 7 months ago by WalruZ | Permalink
- 90/32 Skills1768% time penalty
  XD
  Posted 7 months ago by Cryroth | Permalink
- 98/37 Skills
  1959% time penalty
  Posted 7 months ago by Nutty | Permalink
- Walruz: I like knowing all the skills. I don't mind waiting a bit for a new skill. ;)
  Posted 7 months ago by EarthtoGrace | Permalink
- 95/37 Skills1768% time penalty
  Posted 7 months ago by Tarod | Permalink
- I'm on 96/37, and I also have 1768% time penalty...
  Posted 7 months ago by SaSa Jack | Permalink
- 100/60 Skills 604% time penalty
  Posted 7 months ago by lycan | Permalink
- Whoo Hoo, lycan!
  Posted 7 months ago by GreyGoose | Permalink
- WalruZ - but i want to learn all those skills. I guess there may be a few that I don't necessarily need like making crystals...not sure when was the last time i made crystals.
  Posted 7 months ago by Airya | Permalink
- 99/40 Skills
  1768% time penalty
  Posted 7 months ago by Anthropocene | Permalink
- Hmmm, my list of brain capacity upgrades is out of synch with my brain capacity (I think the upgrade page didn't take the refunds off).... I'll wait until the release is complete and investigate more thoroughly
  Posted 7 months ago by shhexy corin | Permalink
- Brain Capacity:99/43 Skills1514% time penalty
  That's mine
  Posted 7 months ago by katykicker | Permalink
- Has anyone else not got their brain capacity refunds?
  Posted 7 months ago by katykicker | Permalink
- Brain Capacity: 100/52 Skills
  940% time penalty
  Posted 7 months ago by Ygasuasu | Permalink
- 99/41 Skills1679% time penalty
  Posted 7 months ago by justpeace | Permalink
- I'm at 99/45 with a 1364% time penalty.
  TR2 ~7days 19hrs 20mins (am still learning that one)
  Posted 7 months ago by ~Scilly~ | Permalink
- I like having all the skills and I don't mind in the slightest having to wait to learn a new one. I'm in no rush to get anywhere.
  99/37 and 2062% time penalty.
  When new skills arrive I may change my mind, but to be honest, I doubt it.
  Posted 7 months ago by Zira | Permalink
- 100/57 with a 715 time penalty
  Posted 7 months ago by Virginia Moon | Permalink
- 99/51 w/ 992% penalty.
  Posted 7 months ago by HAVOK PEW SUMMERS | Permalink
- I just came back to playing after a while inactivity (been a rough semester). I'm at 48/28 and have a 193% time penalty. I guess now we NEED to unlearn things?
  Posted 7 months ago by elysemelon | Permalink
- I don't think you NEED to unlearn things. Many people do not agree with the idea and I support their right to play the way they want if it works for them.
  That said, however, I think it's important to understand that the mechanism is there, and why. The intent is to penalize people who want to "know everything" and encourage them to pick and choose from the overall skill tree. That is the way *I* have decided to play. You need to think about it and make your own choice according to how *you* feel.
  Posted 7 months ago by WalruZ | Permalink
- 98/32 Skills, 2528% time penalty
  I haven't really logged in in a long time, except to switch skills when the new ones became available...
  Posted 7 months ago by Snokatt | Permalink