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The Rube ( not?) Nerfed.

There was a 'trick' to get a doll from the Rube.  No game rules were broken to exploit this 'trick.'  But a bunch of people knew it and have been doing it.  It appears now to have been 'nerfed.'

Posted 12 months ago by Parrow Gnolle Subscriber! | Permalink

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  • Don't tell us!
    Posted 12 months ago by Rook Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Agreed.
    Posted 12 months ago by Palindrome Subscriber! | Permalink
  • -- No game rules were broken to exploit this 'trick.' 

    If it was a bug, then exploiting it DOES violate the TOS.  Complaining that you did not get the chance to exploit the bug yourself is unlikely to generate much sympathy.
    (And really, who cares what it cost someone to get an item... If they are selling it, and you want to buy it, well, don't pay more than you think it is worth to have the item.)
    Posted 12 months ago by Syruss Subscriber! | Permalink
  • it is a bad situation, i agree.

    not the nerfing, that had to be done, but that people exploited the rube before the nerf to charge stupid amounts of money, forcing an early nerf before the doll base could be spread around enough to prevent ultra-rarity.

    but when you've got sellers exploiting other players for 100 of thousands of currants, this is the sort of situation the sellers create.

    now we have a situation that actually rewards the people who were abusing the exploit in the first place.
    Posted 12 months ago by striatic Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Oh ok then, I retract the previous statement. (which used to ask what the trick was)
    Posted 12 months ago by Rook Subscriber! | Permalink
  • it wasn't a bug, it was just the way the rube operated.
    Posted 12 months ago by striatic Subscriber! | Permalink
  • This was never a bug. Even Staff members said the Rube was handing out Dolls but it was rare to get one. Now the Rube has stopped handing out doll. Just the way he works :) Although, him handing out dolls may have been a part of us being back in beta.
    Posted 12 months ago by mazzy▲ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I'm confused by this, I thought you needed 50+ Rubes until you found a doll but some people talk like there was a glitch which made you find a doll incredibly fast, what happened and are dolls being removed from Rube?
    Posted 12 months ago by AbelC Subscriber! | Permalink
  • ohhhh!  I was wondering how some people seemed to have several to sell when others were trying and never got offered one.  thanks.
    Posted 12 months ago by oscarette Subscriber! | Permalink
  • i guess now that it has been [apparently] nerfed, i'll just explain what the trick was.

    so the trick was to make a rubeweed essence and buy a still [or presumably some other 2k+ valued item]. then you'd go to your house and drop everything in your inventory other than the rubeweed and the still. after that you'd go outside and call the rube with the essence. the rube would proceed to offer you cubimal boxes and dolls, to the exclusion of all other items.
    Posted 12 months ago by striatic Subscriber! | Permalink
  • So the rube isnt giving out dolls at all anymore?  seriously????
    Posted 12 months ago by Innie✿, Obviously Subscriber! | Permalink
  • If you try the above trick, he gets "confused" and refuses to trade you at all. Wasted an essence and $2k to test that, figuring I'd at least get SOME trades, if not dolls. Nope, nothing.
    Posted 12 months ago by Rev. Desdemona Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I am VERY sad to here all this. I too wondered how some people all the sudden had 3 dollls to sell for VERY high prices. The rube doesnt like me much- I have no idea why. Even when I go adventuring to new streets shortly after a new day - NOPE- still Rube doesnt show up for me. I've compared notes with friends and I seem to have very LOW results to theirs. I tried rube essence a few times but wasnt offered anything stellar.
    LASTLY- I , of course, with my Rube "luck" had never been offered a doll- since I don't even get to SEE Rube often. So - am especially sad that others were using a "exploit" to get dolls and have now spoiled it for the rest of us who were trying to get a doll in an honest manner.
    Posted 12 months ago by serenitycat Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Parrow may have nerfed it by posting here; the bug, shown here, seemed to be happening randomly for the last couple of days.  Plenty of dolls were obtained before and after the bug.
    Posted 12 months ago by glum pudding Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Lot of weird moralizing going on.  Carry high level stuff only to get high level rube trades.  Vary it enough so he's not confused.
    Posted 12 months ago by Battersea Subscriber! | Permalink
  • @glum that's what I saw when I tested the trick. It's a bug?
    Posted 12 months ago by Rev. Desdemona Subscriber! | Permalink
  • "If you try the above trick, he gets "confused" and refuses to trade you at all. Wasted an essence and $2k to test that, figuring I'd at least get SOME trades, if not dolls. Nope, nothing."

    that's just a rube bug of some kind.

    of the 6 times i tried it, i got 4 dolls and two bugs, but someone i knew had success in avoiding the bug by changing streets a few times before calling the rube. they reported going 7 for 7.
    Posted 12 months ago by striatic Subscriber! | Permalink
  • No, it's to make sure you have more than one type of item in your inventory.  You have to mix it up so he trades w you.
    Posted 12 months ago by Battersea Subscriber! | Permalink
  • No, I got a doll by having only stills in my inventory. 
    Posted 12 months ago by glum pudding Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Yeah, but he gets confused sometimes if you do it that way.  Never confused if you vary it.
    Posted 12 months ago by Battersea Subscriber! | Permalink
  • (Doublepost, sorry)
    Posted 12 months ago by Battersea Subscriber! | Permalink
  • i just got a doll by having nothing in inventory but a single still.

    so battersea is incorrect there, although looks like Parrow Groddle was incorrect about this having been "nerfed".

    after discussing this with the group of us who tested this, it appears the way to avoid the "rube bug" is simply to change streets a bunch of times after changing your inventory but before calling the rube, presumably so that the game has time to save your true inventory to the database .. or something.
    Posted 12 months ago by striatic Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I was there when a friend got a doll from the Rube a few hours ago, so he is still giving them out. I've never gotten one, but I'm going to keep trying.

    EDIT: got one for a crystamalyzing chamber just now.
    Posted 12 months ago by Shepherdmoon Subscriber! | Permalink
  • No, I did not "nerf" it by posting here. I figured it out by reading the now deleted thread where there were clues. I couldn't try it out myself because I was away from a non-mobile device. But I called a friend on the phone and they did it successfully on both their accounts. By the time I got home to try it had been nerfed. I did not start this thread until after that.

    I doubt if the dolls have completely stopped being given out, but they have coded a work around that prevents the "trick" from working. The thread with clues had been long deleted before I started this thread. The deleted thread was probably what clued the devs in to change the code and disable the "trick".

    And the trick: the rube initiates a trade offer for something of more value for something you are carrying. If all you are were carrying is something like a still or cauldron and a rubeweed tincture, when you use the tincture all there is for you to trade is a high value item. So the rube offers a higher value item, a doll, in trade.  They have changed it so if the rube encounters you with just that high value item he is 'confused' and won't trade. I expect glitches not being 'tricky' will still get doll trade offers some times.

    I don't really want the dolls, personally.  I just can't sit here watching people trading away their pickle or GNG block or hundreds of thousands of currants for dolls that others got by being tricky, and that are becoming more and more common by the hour.  If that makes me a spoilsport so be it.
    Posted 12 months ago by Parrow Gnolle Subscriber! | Permalink
  • So wait, this still works?
    I want a doll!  <3

    Edit ~ I got me a doll now. <3 <3 <3 Thank you for everyone who put info in this thread that let me get one.  I've wanted one for ages.  Now I'm going to get one for my best friend if I can.  <3 <3 <3
    Posted 12 months ago by ♪♥~ Auren ~♥♪ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • It's fascinating watching first Essence of Rubeweed then Rubeweed itself dry up on the auctions. (I tried it but messed up by carring an orb, not a cauldron, so all I got was a lousy chick cubimal.)
    Posted 12 months ago by blech Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Confirmed - just got a Nietzsche doll by using the Rubeweed essence with only a still in my inventory.

    The doll starts to speak: "And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."
    Posted 12 months ago by richi Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I really hope he's still giving out dolls!!... I have been spending/traveling a lot trying to get him to trade them to me (or even a cubimal box for that matter). He's been trying to trade me the lamest stuff! After reading this I emptied a lot of stuff out of my inventory. Leaving only a few things (rubeweed among them). All he wanted to trade for was the rubeweed but it was still kinda lame stuff. The best being a High-Class Hoe which is better then anything he has offered in quite a while. Hmmm...
    Posted 12 months ago by Fairystinky Subscriber! | Permalink
  • cool. Just got a doll.
    Posted 12 months ago by Gizgazzuz Guziz Subscriber! | Permalink
  • He's still giving out dolls just got one on a regular trade :)
    for a grand grinder
    Posted 12 months ago by axton Subscriber! | Permalink
  • argh now to just find some rubeweed / essence.  x_x

    I hope the devs don't kill this before I can get my bestie a doll.... >_<  I have a terrible terrible feeling that's what will happen tho...... this is toooo good to last I bet... :: le sigh ::

    (ps. devs please don't kill this feature.)
    Posted 12 months ago by ♪♥~ Auren ~♥♪ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I hope they don't kill it either. I don't care to exploit a bug to get the goods. I just want the goods eventually lol
    Posted 12 months ago by Fairystinky Subscriber! | Permalink
  • "By the time I got home to try it had been nerfed. I did not start this thread until after that."

    but it hasn't been nerfed.

    you must have just hit the rube inventory checking bug, and assumed it had been nerfed.

    but in fact if you just wander around for a bit after setting up your inventory, it works. same as before.
    Posted 12 months ago by striatic Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Geeeeze! All the prices of that stuff just went way through the roof lol
    Posted 12 months ago by Fairystinky Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Does anyone know how often you can imbibe the Essence?
    Glitch Strategy Wiki is conspicuously silent on this topic....
    Posted 12 months ago by ♪♥~ Auren ~♥♪ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I'm assuming once a day, Miso.
    Posted 12 months ago by Papa Legba Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Lord Coyote is correct: once each Glitch day. There is also a cool-down period of around 3 game hours, so you can't use 2 back to back.
    Posted 12 months ago by Shepherdmoon Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Awww hehe thanks guys.  ^_^
    Well hopefully they don't kill this feature for at least the next 5 game days >_> for er... no reason in particular lol. >_>
    Posted 12 months ago by ♪♥~ Auren ~♥♪ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I 'wandered around a bit' (actually quite more than a bit) and still got the message about a confused rube.
     
    I have never seen the 'confused rube' message before today.  Has anybody else?  Granted, probably nobody has fiddled with their inventory this way before this 'feature' was discovered.
    Posted 12 months ago by Parrow Gnolle Subscriber! | Permalink
  • It works.  Nothing in my inventory except a still. I got a doll.
    Posted 12 months ago by Pming Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Anyone want a single Rubeweed for free? I'm not participating in this price craziness with the auctions... I'm still curious though to see how this will pan out.. I'll keep walking around to trade to Rube and hope for the best XD
    Posted 12 months ago by Fairystinky Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Just tried it, using all the hints above, but it did not work for me.  The Rube was "confused".
    Posted 12 months ago by Eleanor Rigby Subscriber! | Permalink
  • The confusion bug was reported a couple of days ago.  It's not new and doesn't seem to have anything to do with the dolls.  The method of obtaining the dolls detailed above will soon be removed from the game, according to staff.
    Posted 12 months ago by glum pudding Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I want to get at least three dolls before it's fixed, so I don't have to worry about the dolls ever again.  Rube used to be a net gain for me.  When the (possibility) of dolls came up, Rube became a net loss.

    @Eleanor - was your inventory completely empty except for a still?
    Posted 12 months ago by Pming Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Yes Pming, the only things in my inventory were the essence and the still, and I then imbibed the essence and only the still remained.
    Posted 12 months ago by Eleanor Rigby Subscriber! | Permalink
  • i am also one who has been looking into what i call "rube mechanics" , long before the dolls were reintroduced. Why wouldnt you try to narro down your possible offers by not carry items he trades junk for? its logic people!

    As far as rube giving the confused message, my theory is there are 2 reasons for this:

    1 - when he entered the street, he formulates his offers based on your inventory - if inventory changes, ie dropping/consuming things, he bugs out because he cant offer you his programmed trades.

    2 - If all you are carrying is a still, sometimes he wont trade because rube is programmed to not ALWAYS offer great trades/rare items. So if he didnt intend on trading you rares, you cant force him to.

    3 - you will know if he is confused if the speech bubble asking you to talk to him does not appear. BUT IF YOU WAIT it usually appears after a while, but you start on trade 2/5 or 4/5. Again i theorise on predetermined trades.

    i got a set of dolls doing this, and made some money - considering im not ingame that much it helps me out. Finding glitches in the matrix interests me, and my next mission is the SB1!

    If by some miracle i figure out SB1, would selling it for a huge amount be wrong? no. because i would have invested the time, currants and energy into it!
    Posted 12 months ago by Dr Zeuss Subscriber! | Permalink
  • You're all just griefers and you should be ashamed of yourselves taking advantage of the poor Rube.  I mean how can you sleep at night?  Spending all your time analysing and figuring out the quirks of the game and using it to meet your goals in the game instead of just accepting the information given to you by the devs is just despicable!
    Posted 12 months ago by spunsugar Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Taking advantage of the rube is INEXCUSABLE.  Everyone know he's challenged.  He probably has to account for all those missing dolls at the end of his shift.   I can see him curled up in his little firebog hut, crying himself to sleep after what the devs must be saying to him.  
    Posted 12 months ago by WalruZ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • " 2 - If all you are carrying is a still, sometimes he wont trade because rube is programmed to not ALWAYS offer great trades/rare items. So if he didnt intend on trading you rares, you cant force him to."

    Dr Zeuss - so perhaps if we carry several items of varying values - a still, a firefly jar (I have gotten a still for a jar), junk - we can keep Rube from bugging out and still have a very good chance to get a doll?
    Posted 12 months ago by Pming Subscriber! | Permalink
  • The Rube is a Rube.  Taking advantage of him might be okay.  Getting an item because of an exploit, then selling that item to another player is a bad move and a crappy thing to do to another person.
    Posted 12 months ago by Alexgator Subscriber! | Permalink
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