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Honestly

I think you guys are spending time in things that are just useless and material if I can call them that in a virtual world, really don't add any feeling to the game, the only thing new that is cool, is the old buildings and the little place inside the trees. This game has probably the best community I ever saw and you keep adding stuff that doesn't matter, let people play and have fun with simple things, that housing endless stuff makes me sick, I just want to play! I already have stuff in my home to take care! Don't really need more!
Stop it! just stop it! use the brakes!!!

People have fun with simple stuff, endless material stuff already exists in real world, no need to put it here, people don't really have fun with that, unless you guys are targeting some old ppl pockets, dunno, I prefer to think that you are just lost, things that are really cool is stuff like the comic book that lx, tis and others made, and look at the tools they used! no glitchr thing, no housing thing, no nothing, just simple old fashioned imgur and real imagination, thats how it was in the start thats how people had fun back then and thats how it should be... 

Let people play! they want to.

I'm saying this because I care,
arizoo

Posted 6 months ago by arizoo Subscriber! | Permalink

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  • I think they should disregard the OP's opinion because it doesn't fit in with the plans of the company. *shrugs* 

    By putting out new housing, they've made it pretty clear that's an element they want the game to contain. I'd argue that it's nigh impossible to move the game away from 'material' things at this point. They've put a LOT of work into making the game about said things.

    I'd also like to say that I don't think TS is trying to build an empty playground where the kids imagine their own fun. They're more going for a gargantuan Port Discovery kind of playground, where people who come to play have hundreds of structures to play on and things to interact with, and having those things doesn't take away from our ability to imagine all the awesome games and adventures we imagined before. I'd say it optimizes that capacity in us. With more to inspire us, how could we come up with less fun?!

    As about a million other folk have said, TS will surely hit on content that you find more appealing soon enough! And if not, I express my utmost sympathy. Because Ur is a wonderful place, and it would be awful if it no longer appeals to you in the future.
    Posted 6 months ago by Liza Throttlebottom Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I think that the new features added have helped expand this game into something more real. I mean, now we all have our own houses and streets, and although this game has become a little more individual because of that, I like having my own house, because idk, it's mine :). I wouldn't call houses useless and material, because in RL, houses are a nice thing to have :)
    Posted 6 months ago by Finley Linker Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Lol, reading comments :) How did this forum end up in a grammatical debate?
    Posted 6 months ago by Finley Linker Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I applaud everyone who has ever given negative feedback about Glitch. Period. Tell TS about the things that they are doing wrong, not what they are doing right.

    Fanboyism kills.
    Posted 6 months ago by Joe Blow Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Joe, it's not a one or the other thing.  Those of us who are defending Glitch here have criticized it ourselves a hundred times each in our own ways.  There are ways of delivering a critique in a constructive and effective manner, instead of effectively troll bating.
    Posted 6 months ago by Carl Projectorinski Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Saucelah: "Double negatives are not allowed in any Western language that I'm aware of."

    and

    "I really, really, really do know what I'm talking about"

    Since you're proclaiming yourself an expert, I will interject. Have you heard of French? It is certainly classified as a "Western" language. Double negatives are used, and are correct. What about Spanish? Same deal. Your assertion that a double negative is not allowed in the English language is correct.
    Posted 6 months ago by Audaria Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Actually, double negatives are allowed in the English language.  It is an old rule that they are not which has fallen into disuse to the point than many authorities on the matter, such as there are, admit that double negatives now have a meaning and a place.  Even some dictionaries will admit it, to my understanding.
    Posted 6 months ago by Carl Projectorinski Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I proclaimed myself an expert in English grammar, not in Western languages.  But I do speak French, if not well these days, and I'm sure I have absolutely no idea what you are counting as a double negative.  

    It is, however, also quite true that the double negative is not a characteristic of English language learners whose native languages are French or Spanish.  It's actually not a characteristic stemming from any native language.  It's also true that English language learners tend not to use impromptu English text-speak abbreviations like "ppl" for "people" as the first is just a clump of consonants with no meaning to most non-native speakers.  My point being that I don't believe English is not his first language.  

    So yes, it could be true that it is allowable within Western languages and I'm not aware.  That would be why I used the whole "that I'm aware of" ending of the sentence and all, don't you think?  
    Posted 6 months ago by Red Sauce Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Ah yes, it's true.  Though I would generally only bring that up around a more grammar-geeky crowd that really wants to get into the details.  There is actually a double negative in a recent blog post I made as well.  It was for structural reasons, however, and conveyed the meaning intended, rather than the opposite. 

    So to be clear, double negatives are only bad if they end up conveying the exact opposite meaning the writer or speaker intends.  Since I doubt the OP meant to claim he insults everyone all the time . . . . 
    Posted 6 months ago by Red Sauce Subscriber! | Permalink
  • @Saucelah: "But I do speak French, if not well these days, and I'm sure I have absolutely no idea what you are counting as a double negative."

    I don't have the time nor the inclination to give you a French lesson, so I'll just refer you to this link for a brief explanation. french.about.com/od/grammar...
    Posted 6 months ago by Audaria Subscriber! | Permalink
  • This thread has made me less and less interested in playing glitch. And that makes me very sad. I've spent so many hours here, having fun and playing with new friends. But the snide attacks on any opinion seen as critical of TS is just giving me a crappy feeling about the community. Most of us are happy with the game and like the new content. That's great. But a silent majority? I"m not so sure. How many people would just rather quit playing than state their opinions on a beta game and get attacked for it? I used to be that person. But watching people get smacked down because of poor writing skills and a differing opinion just pisses me off and makes me feel a need to speak up for the fearful minority. I know we don't all play the same way. But I do know it's ok to play a different way than I do, and it's definitely ok to say what isn't working for you. Evidently reading the forums is not working for me, as I thought people who played glitch were nicer than what I"m seeing here.
    Posted 6 months ago by glassy Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Someone simply saying "Glitch sucks!" is more than sufficient feedback. The onus is not on that person to back up the statement with facts or with any constructive feedback whatsoever, but rather on TS to figure out why that statement might be true.

    Most people who have negative opinions about this game are looong gone. Caring enough to say "Glitch sucks!" is going above and beyond the call, imo. I wish more people would say at least that much, if they felt that way.

    On the other hand...I wish the fanboys would say much, much less. Your opinions have been duly noted...and noted...and noted again. Get over yourselves.
    Posted 6 months ago by Joe Blow Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Sirentist: that would be how I defined "trying to trip me up."   You're wrong though.

    As a former English teacher, I know for a fact that you cannot judge someone's intelligence by their writing ability.  Yet as a student of English education, I know that there are studies that prove we do exactly that, even English teachers whom should know better, even people that directly claim they do not when interviewed before the study.  

    Whomever reads these posts for Tiny Speck can claim otherwise, but he or she will be subtly influenced by both the tone inherent to the OP's approach and the apparent, not necessarily actual, level of education that the grammar suggests.  Call it an ad hom if you like.  I call it a friendly explanation as to why the OP's post was not receiving the "respect" he seems to think it deserves.  And it is much, much nicer than what I really think.   
    Posted 6 months ago by Red Sauce Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I hope this thread won't never stop!
    Posted 6 months ago by Jesus Christ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Joe, I object to being called a fan boy.  It is inaccurate.  I think there are fewer fan boys (or fan girls) than you perceive, and that your perception is colored by the side of a given argument that irritates you less.

    Also, I think your philosophy makes for much worse communication than you hope.  Actually, I don't just think it, I have seen it.
    Posted 6 months ago by Carl Projectorinski Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Glassy, you know there's a silent majority.  You yourself are part of an incredibly active community in this game, most of whom are very happy with the new changes or at worst indifferent, most of whom don't post in the forums at all.  

    I'm not attacking the OP for his writing or his opinion.  I'm bantering with him for being upset with how people disagreed with his opinion and not having the self-awareness enough to realize it was all in his approach.  My approach invites people to nitpick over details, to try and prove me wrong about the little things on the edge of my point, as I act like a know-it-all, but since I invite that response, I would truly hope any thinking individuals around here would jump down my throat if I got upset when it happened.  

    Anyway, @Joe: I have expressed negative opinions of Tiny Speck and various mechanics and choices they have made in the past.  There is evidence in my blog if you would like to verify.  

    I make it my mission, however, to reign in anyone whose "negative opinion" is nowhere near as widespread and universal as they seem to think.  And I make it my mission to counter bad logic and absurdities everywhere in the world.  If that makes me a fanboy . . . I think we need a new definition of that word.  
    Posted 6 months ago by Red Sauce Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Can we all please stop proving each other wrong? Maybe you guys are getting satisfaction from proving each other wrong about grammar and opinions, but this is negative satisfaction. You'd get a much better satisfaction by posting respectful comments. You can still express your opinion and do this at the same time
    Posted 6 months ago by Finley Linker Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I have a similar opinion with Arizoo.

    Let's look at the word: glitch.  According to Apple's dictionary, it defines an unexpected setback in a plan.  Example: Spice Wars, Rook, Contraband, etc. That's what make it so much fun than hoarding stuff and staying at home most of time.  I'm not against those people who like to be a hoarder or a home-bound.

    So, I suspect that TS is almost done with a second beta soon.  Arizoo and I will be looking forward to more glitches after relaunch!

    forthosewhowhodislikeouropinionmakeyourownpost
    plusthisisnotafreakingschoolwhichcorrectsourgrammarlanguageallthetime
    Posted 6 months ago by Milolin Subscriber! | Permalink
  • "I make it my mission, however, to reign in anyone whose "negative opinion" is nowhere near as widespread and universal as they seem to think. And I make it my mission to counter bad logic and absurdities everywhere in the world. If that makes me a fanboy . . . I think we need a new definition of that word. "

    Agreed. Sounds more like a self-proclaimed superhero to me.
    Posted 6 months ago by Joe Blow Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Finley, that kind of attitude won't get you nowhere!
    Posted 6 months ago by Jesus Christ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • If there is a "silent majority" what makes you think they agree with you? If they are silent, you don't know. They could be part of what has been derisively called the "vocal minority."

    If you have actual data; if you've spoken to everyone who plays the game; if you have ANY proof whatsoever; I'd like to see it. And simply saying that people are playing, therefore they're happy doesn't cut it. It only means that they are at least satisfied enough not to have left. Yet.

    You could be right. It could be that 99% of the people playing are so in love with this game that they see absolutely nothing that could be done to make it better. Maybe. I doubt it. So stop trying to marginalize those who are willing to admit that there are things about this game that could be improved.
    Posted 6 months ago by Audaria Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Well, I like the new sounds when I hover over the options in my IMG bubble.
    Posted 6 months ago by GreyGoose Subscriber! | Permalink
  • If you don't like these changes, you could just make yourself a plain old house and a plain old home street and a plain old Ur and a plain old wardrobe and a plain old everything. Suit yourself.
    Posted 6 months ago by AwesomeCardinal2000 Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Goodness folks...go play...though maybe the forums are some of y'all's playground ;)

    I would respectfully disagree with the OP, but I think that topic is long past...though I'll bring it up again. I was uber bored before all these game changes.  Sure, more quests would be fun, but I suspect they are still coming.  I've been waiting for months on end for the ability to change my housing environment, and wow, I finally have that.  I'm exceptionally grateful.  The switch to iMG and now the upgrade cards are constantly keeping me engaged.  Having fun again exploring friends' streets and Ur and the old apartments and the crazy maze seam streets in the basement of the old apartments...well, for me, I'm having fun again.  Sorry some aren't, and now have to wait patiently for the things that make them happy...hold on, and keep being patient...you too will get things that thrill you that may/may not thrill me.  

    And as a side note...sorry to the players where some of your friends aren't playing lately...I've been so busy in my main account with all the changes, that I've personally not had time to log into my alts regularly...even my subscriber alts...yea...I was THAT bored with the game before all these recent changes...(and for those of you that friended them...they will be back...eventually) ;)  But that was my way of dealing with the boredom...hopefully the OP and their friends will find a constructive way to deal with theirs until they get things that thrill them again.

    On yet another note...yes, I'm sure I'm one of the older than dirt, ancient folks around here...and I've been saving credits for probably 9 months to spend on the changes that have recently happened. So glad I finally have something to spend them on!  Yippie!

    And to Carl...good point about 'finals'...stress/lack of sleep does crazy things to people...not to mention the heat of summer...and full moons... ;)
    Posted 6 months ago by b3achy Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Well said :)
    Posted 6 months ago by Finley Linker Subscriber! | Permalink
  • You know I actually don't think that.  But brought it up that way because glassy is part of a community I helped create and run, with 230 members, most of whom are quite pleased and very active in the game, few of whom post here.  Scarlett Bearsdale and Havok post in here, but those are the only other active-in-the-forum founding members.  So I know glassy knows people that are satisfied with the game that do not post, so for her to deny such a possibility was, to me, equivalent to denying the existence of PBMS.   Where I was just talking with her in chat, so I'm pretty sure it still exists.  

    But to clarify, only a little bit of logic is needed to know that if there are people playing the game that are silent, that they either like or are indifferent to recent changes.  If they do not like them, why are they playing?  If for some reason they are playing despite not liking them, why are they silent?  It requires creating less (intentionally used!) assumptions and filling in less gaps to simply accept that people that still regularly play the game but do not post on the forums are happy with the game.  

    It's another fact---of the internet, of marketing, of human beings---that we are much more strongly motivated to share our negative reviews than our positive.  Try googling your favorite restaurant, and if you did not know better, you would never want to eat there again.  It's very true of the forums for games: those that are angry or upset are the most motivated to post.  Those who are content are simply not motivated to share their contentment.  

    So yes, a huge percentage of the game's active population does not post at all.  And the odds are much higher that it is because they are content than because they are really really pissed off and let down but keeping it to themselves.  
    Posted 6 months ago by Red Sauce Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Even if you want to unlaunch everything that's been released in the last few months, you've got to consider how much of their time and effort the devs have been putting in to entertain thousands of people. Would you like to turn months of work into nothing?
    Posted 6 months ago by AwesomeCardinal2000 Subscriber! | Permalink
  • In addition to French, Romanian, Catalan, and Portuguese (the last being the 3rd most prevalent language in the western hemisphere) all employ double negatives.  That said, who even said that only people originally speaking what are more correctly termed germanic and romance languages* are the ones always speaking English as a second language?  Could arizoo not be a native speaker of an Asian or African language?**  Chinese would be the most obvious example of a language that uses a significant number of double negatives. 

    Any time someone seems to have a hard time expressing themself, I think it's a good idea to stop and consider why they might be having trouble communicating. More importantly, one should think of what a respectful and considerate way to help them might be.  I know it's hard to back down when you feel you're taking the path of righteousness and clarity, but try to remember that everyone typing is a warm body somewhere else in the world and above all, avoid assuming bad intentions.  

    Also, saying "I don't know if there's a silent majority" doesn't mean "there are no people who don't post and are happy with the game".  It means "you don't have evidence that these people are the majority".  Saucelah, you're falling in to the same trap decried elsewhere in this thread.  It's the one summarized as "the people I talk to feel (x) so most people must feel (x)".

    (Did you see what I did back there?  19th century grammarians are clutching everything they can reach in terror at "themself" being singular.  They haven't even made it to the part where I'm using double negatives of my own.)  

    * This seems to be the referent implied, at any rate.  If it's not, may I direct your attention to Greek, Welsh, and the Baltic and Slavic languages?  Perhaps Hungarian?

    ** He's not, for the record.  As I recall his native language is indeed Portuguese.  Frankly, however, it's totally irrelevant, as many people here (myself included) could tell you that we already knew that this isn't his native language.
    Posted 6 months ago by Magic Monkey Subscriber! | Permalink
  • 99% of the people in the crackhouse are perfectly satisfied with crack cocaine. Therefore, it stands to reason that 99% of the world population is happy with crack cocaine.

    You conveniently exclude all of the people who have left the game, never to be seen again. Please include them in your calculations.
    Posted 6 months ago by Joe Blow Subscriber! | Permalink
  • AC2K has a good point.  And here's one for us thinker over feeler types: if you were an investor, would you have faith in a company that unlaunched in order to change the basic mechanics of the game, spent months developing that new spine, and then rolled all of it back and launched without it anyway?  

    From chatting with glassy, I've realized we had different understandings of the OP.  Now, I can understand people wanting more content than housing stuff---especially considering housing was not a release that I was ever too worried about, and I still haven't really even started decorating.  But complaining that we've been getting housing stuff instead doesn't make sense.  
    This is another one of those times where expectations need to be tempered.  We do not have enough information to judge what kinds of content will be released regularly.  As others have pointed out, what we are seeing is the content designed to get this game back to launch.  Housing is part of the new player experience, so we're getting a lot of housing updates.  This is not content designed for retention.  Attrition of beta players bored with the type, timing, and style of content releases is to be expected -- stoot said something very similar in another thread.  By sticking around after the game went back to beta, whether you were consciously aware or not, you were agreeing to stick around while a game release content at a slower rate, content not designed to please a wide segment of the population (though if it does so, bonus!) but designed to bring the game back to a live state.  

    While entertaining players is the goal of releases in a live game, that is NOT their goal right now.  

    Talk to me again a few months after the game releases, when we can look at what they consider live releases designed for retention, and I might actually agree with this concern.  But right now, those of us playing have agreed to be on the edge for the chance to test new material.  We can't also turn around and expect them to release content designed for us at the same time -- they gave us a pretty good idea of what needed to be done before the game goes back to live.  We're still waiting that out.  
    Posted 6 months ago by Red Sauce Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I can't hardly wait!
    Posted 6 months ago by Jesus Christ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • There was nothing impolite about where I pointed out the error.  And a non-native speaker has already thanked me for calling him out (go to the friend page, search for sudv , find her reply to me.  Her native language is Spanish).  So we can do this all day, but I've worked with a Korean student, two Chinese students, and countless Spanish speakers.  Never encountered double negatives as an issue stemming from their native language.   

    Go back to my first post.  I did not say there was a silent majority.  I just said the OP is not in the majority.  Then I said there were plenty of silent players.  THe word "silent" and "majority" were not conjoined by me but by glassy.   It's unfortunate that she chose one word from one sentence and another from the next and joined them.  It's unfortunate as well that I chose to repeat that joining when I addressed her.  But none of it changes anything I've said: greater than half the population is not steaming about changes and ragequitting.  Plenty of players are happily poking away at the game.  
    Posted 6 months ago by Red Sauce Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Sure Joe Blow, would you say that most of those players quit in the last three weeks?  If you do, we'd have to disagree, as I've seen more activity since the housing launch, so only Tiny Speck can settle that dispute.  But I feel the most were disappearing from, say, November to February, during which time the game was essentially the same as it was from November on.  I feel it is a different game they were quitting, so what opinion could they possibly have about the effect of imagination and housing?  

    I have a number of friends that quit in that time because they "ran out of things to do" -- so would you say there are now less things to do than there were in November? 

    Basically, you're not making much sense.  
    Posted 6 months ago by Red Sauce Subscriber! | Permalink
  • But how do you know for sure? If you want to play logically, you need statistics to back up your retorts, because you can't back it up based on your friend group
    Posted 6 months ago by Finley Linker Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I'm not making any claim about anything.  So there's that and all.  

    *headdesk*  

    If you think it's a huge assumption that people that play the game and don't feel the need to complain in the forums---not my own friend group mind you, just people that play the game---are not angry at the game, well, there's not much for us to talk about.  I tend to expect human beings not to be masochistic with their entertainment choices, unless masochism is their entertainment choice.  And I do actually know a few people that like to play the whipped or beaten submissive, but even they prefer to play games they like during their spare time rather than ones they can't stand and are really pissed off about.  
    ETA:  What seems to be happening here is that I made the mistake of splitting my conversation without splitting my conversation.  When I said the OP was not in a majority, I did not follow by saying people that are happy are in the majority.  When I addressed the existence of my friend group with many members that fit that description, it should have been clearly indicated as a personal aside to glassy, as she is part of that friend group, so has as much access to examples of active, happy, and silent players as I do, so deny the possibility that such existed, majority or not, caught me off-guard coming from her.  
    Posted 6 months ago by Red Sauce Subscriber! | Permalink
  • There was nothing directly impolite about where you pointed out the error, but the tone you've adopted throughout has not been a welcoming one, regardless of your intent.  When someone is arguing with me, sounds hostile, and then points out an error I've made, I know I don't tend to take it well.  I'm not arguing against pointing out errors.  I'm simply saying that it's important to consider HOW one points out those errors.  Also, I never said anything about Spanish, and I don't recall anyone else doing so either.  Chinese would depend very heavily on dialect, I should think, but that's an area I don't know enough about to speak with any semblance of authority on.  

    Also, let's just drop the phrase "silent majority".  Even then, without a comprehensive representative sample taken of the population and surveyed (must include current and former players), you can not possibly know what greater than half of the population thinks.  You can make reasonable estimations, but it's disingenuous to state those estimations as absolute facts.  Greater than half of the population might be steaming about changes, but we don't know because they haven't told us.  Ragequitting, on the other hand, is something you can know, simply because it generally requires a public display to fall under the term.  
    Posted 6 months ago by Magic Monkey Subscriber! | Permalink
  • FWIW, the chart of [unique players logging in each day] and the chart of [total active players] both look approximately like this:   ´\_,

    That's a long decline from the time we "unlaunched" until we started with the major releases (early March; three months ago) where the decline stopped and the numbers actually started growing again.

    The difference between now and the Fall is that now we don't have lots of new players joining: for several months we've been restricting the number of new players invited and stopped invites altogether about a month ago. That means that the growth is actually due to increased engagement with the game, rather than a constant churn of new people arriving and other ones leaving.

    This is, of course, what we were hoping for and why we made the dramatic decision to unlaunch and retool. So far, it seems to be working.

    As to the OP: arizoo, I don't really see how the stuff we're adding stops anyone from playing in the sense you are saying (indeed, Dead of Ur was made just now, not eight months ago). But, I think I understand what you are asking for and more of it is coming (the apartment building puzzles are the first examples of some new tools and new techniques we have for building more interesting spaces … stay tuned).
    Posted 6 months ago by stoot barfield Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I think my post where I pointed out that "silent majority" is not my phrase was missed by you.  I originally just said "the silence in the middle" -- which meant exactly what it meant. People who are neither overwhelmingly pleased or overwhelmingly angry. Just in the middle. 

    "there was nothing directly impolite"  you can just stop there.  Tone is something you read "into" in text.  There's only so much I can do without body language and actual tone to make nice nice.  I don't bother with someone whose reaction to being told he's not in the majority is to get defensive then go on the attack.  I'm not a teacher anymore.  I'm not here to make anyone feel warm and fuzzy.  

    I'm in marketing these days, when I'm in anything.  A field where it is also a standard assumption that complaints are louder than compliments and that the majority of silent people are silent because they are happy.  Interesting, eh?  

    ETA: so the real numbers look like my assumption, downward trend until the housing launch.  Gee I feel smart.  
    Posted 6 months ago by Red Sauce Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Thanks, stoot. It stands to reason that the % or satisfied players has increased as the total number of players has decreased. By "not making sense", this is what I had hoped to convey. People that don't like the game simply don't play any more.

    Please accept the negative feedback from those who *are* still playing accordingly. We see the potential of your beautiful creation and want to make it better, often by telling you about the things that suck.
    Posted 6 months ago by Joe Blow Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I would say you are not making sense still Joe.  By saying that I need to take into account all the players that left, it implied those players had left a game that included the content in question.  Since the content in question has brought players back, it would make no sense to include players who left, not since we are discussing the reception of new content.  
    Posted 6 months ago by Red Sauce Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I must be completely out of my mind to respond to this now, but I am going to anyway!

    The vast majority of people on my friends list (before I joined a new group and met lots of awesome, new Glitchen) were inactive for the longest. However, I am pretty sure that most of them never intended to stay for the long run. Instead, Glitch was just something new for them to do at the time. I know a lot of them aren't coming back no matter what happens, so I'd rather TS spend time making the current population happy over trying to get these "lost" players to return (for now anyway).

    That being said, I respect the fact that not everyone likes how much focus has been placed into housing and how little focus has been placed into creating new quests. However, the best thing we can do at this time is wait and continue to make suggestions in the ideas forum. TS is listening. 

    I have actually been making my own "quests" by trying to obtain some of the badges that I have neglected in the past. It might not work for everyone, but it has given me something to achieve. 
    Posted 6 months ago by Lilu Cheng Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I'm going to reply to the original post.

    First, I think some of your language is a little strong. "Doesn't matter" and "makes me sick" are... Very strong, and your use of "old ppl pockets" is offensive as many of the members of this game's community, which you describe as "the best community I ever saw," are people who you may think of as old.

    That done with, many people do enjoy the new features. I know that I do. I'm sorry that they don't hold interest for you, and hope that some future releases are the type you would like. However, while I love "how people had fun back then," I don't agree that it's "how it should be." I won't say many because I haven't seen enough, but friends of mine left the game because it got boring for them, and they felt there was nothing left for them to do. From what I've heard in the forums, many players did leave for similar reasons. The simple old Glitch was nice, but it needed more things to do to keep people here.

    I do agree, though, that we need some new things to do besides housing. My house is mostly decorated, so I'm no longer spending all my time on that. I wander aimlessly, not having much to do. I still have the social aspect of the game, but it needs to be more than a chatroom. I suppose I could grind levels or currants, but that's never been fun for me. So, I'm sort of out of things too. Wondering what will come next. I know you're tired of being told to wait for future fun things, but in a beta game, that might be what you have to do.
    Posted 6 months ago by Fernstream Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Allow me to provide a summary:

    "Negative feedback, in whatever form, is a valuable tool in making things better!"

    The more you know!
    Posted 6 months ago by Joe Blow Subscriber! | Permalink
  • @Jesus Christ, I shouldn't laugh but...
    Posted 6 months ago by Troll Doll Subscriber! | Permalink
  • That's true :) But I also think there should be a balance between positive and negative feedback, because positive provides motivation, and it shows TS what we do like
    Posted 6 months ago by Finley Linker Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I'd yell blasphemy, but he's kind of an expert on that sort of thing.
    Posted 6 months ago by Liza Throttlebottom Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Right.  I understood that.  I think you just confused me as the particular thing we were discussing negative feedback about is not something 99.9% of the 99.9% of players that left could actually have any opinion on, is it not?
    Posted 6 months ago by Red Sauce Subscriber! | Permalink
  • "Perhaps that was not your intent, but an important lesson about communication -- intent does not convey.  Perception trumps intent." Posted 6 hr ago by Saucelah (bolding mine)

    Try to at least be consistent in what you say.

    I did not at all miss where you clarified that the phrase wasn't originally yours.  That was, in fact, why I suggested that discussion regarding it be dropped.  Then I continued using the words you used in the same post to try to make my point clearer.  
    Posted 6 months ago by Magic Monkey Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Why on earth was Rookswort nerfed, Stoot?!?!??!?!   Unless you're planning on adding a new potion to stop mood loss for 30 minutes that was the dumbest mistake :(!
    Posted 6 months ago by Hersche Subscriber! | Permalink
  • "As to the OP: arizoo, I don't really see how the stuff we're adding stops anyone from playing in the sense you are saying (indeed, Dead of Ur was made just now, not eight months ago). But, I think I understand what you are asking for and more of it is coming (the apartment building puzzles are the first examples of some new tools and new techniques we have for building more interesting spaces … stay tuned)."

    @stoot too much confusion in this post caused by some people, anyway, I'm going to clarify some stuff for you. The magic went away a long time ago, and what its left from it, it's slowly vanishing, and taking some good people with it, you keep holding the rest of us with nice promises that cool things will come, we will love them, and we should stick around to see them, I stayed, I'm here, and I'm not happy, I believe this game is going into the wrong direction, the only thing I can see is material stuff now, the only reason I still log in from time to time it's because of the people that are still here, not because of the game. If you want to do a social whatever trending $ stuff, do it, but don't tell to people like me to stick around. 

    If you want to people like me to stick around, add cool stuff, different unexpected stuff, a siting emote, the ability to create a campfire with wood boards, just quick examples, blow us our mind, make something we would never expect or saw before. Whatever you do, don't go for trendy.

    Everything you add affects the gameplay, everyone have houses now, and people get used to it, I feel bad if I don't put furniture now. Everything in game affects how people play, how they interact and what they talk about. If you think you can please everyone here, you are really really really wrong.

    I don't know if you noticed but you are pleasing a minority that didn't left yet. And I'm probably part of the those that still believes in a surprise, somewhere and are just waiting and watching from the outside to see if it really happens. A GNG moment perhaps, that hooked us like nothing else I ever saw, you remember that day? lost of people will for a long long long time... You think people will remember the furniture? Will you be known by the furniture/paint your walls game?

    I'm being hard on my words, I know that, but thats how I need to be right now.
    Posted 6 months ago by arizoo Subscriber! | Permalink