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#### Why not block the defenders of thieving as a way to make home-street stealing less attractive?

It was suggested in Global Chat that there is a simple way to make home-street stealing less convenient and much less attractive.
Blocking a person keeps that person from coming into your home street.
I look forward to seeing Tiny Speck create a simple and just solution to this problem, as they did with the herb-garden stealing "gameplay." Until they fix it, doing something for ourselves is better than nothing.
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edit: I just want to respond to a couple of mistaken interpretations of what I said here and what I meant here. Perhaps I was too condensed, and if so the thread below has made up for it by becoming TLDR and full of poo-flinging.
By "defenders of thieving" I did not mean "people who have expressed a philosophical point that stuff left on home streets can be taken but not 'stolen.'" By "defenders of thieving" I meant people who were actively and multiply expressing an interest in the question of "stealing" with an emphasis on sneering and sniggering at the disappointed folks whose attempt to be generous had left them missing some property taken from their home streets. People who laugh at others feeling grief are, in my opinion "trolls and bullies." Furthermore, people who repeatedly defend item "takers" and sneer at people who had items taken from them are, in my opinion, promoting and enabling the actual thieves, whether or not they themselves pick up random items.
The point of this post is that something has changed in Glitch since, 4 days ago, blocking somebody keeps that person from coming to your home street. That is, when enough people block somebody, that person will be inconvenienced in harvesting by making circuits through other people's home streets. My hope was that, if people used blocking to indicate their disapproval of trolling and bullying that related to street theft, it would discourage some glitchen from posting about how street-thieves were Glitch's own Robin Hoods while the people who tried to share feeders and butterfly milkers and street decorations are low-IQ whiners who simply deserve to lose everything.
Operationally, if we use blocking to express our opinion that x or y or z is a troll or a bully, only the most universally obvious trolls and bullies will be inconvenienced in any way. And that is just as it should be.

Posted 9 months ago by Vocable | Permalink

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- @Flowerry Pott
  Totally!
  Posted 9 months ago by Volkov | Permalink
- 'I am emotionally attached to my meat feeder' would make an ace Jerry Springer show....
  Posted 9 months ago by Mathilda | Permalink
- @Flowery Pott: Good to know that some people around here do, in fact, understand the realities of human emotions. You're a gem :)
  Posted 9 months ago by Aurora Dellaterra | Permalink
- How is it that I like so many people in-game but dislike so many on the forums? Please block me if you find it offensive that I point out that locks and security DO exist in Glitch, it's just on your front door. I have never stolen anything off of someone's street, in fact I have left many things out for the taking and trusted complete strangers to "hold" my cubi set to get the badge... but if you're offended that my opinion differs from yours; if you are unwilling to see that there's room for both opinions as long as we Live and Let Glitch; if you think that because I stand up for my ideas that I'm probably a thief, then block me. It tickles!
  Posted 9 months ago by Sloppy Ketchup | Permalink
- Place gnomes for now..I've trained mine to bite..any un wanted guests.. :D .. lol
  Posted 9 months ago by Cryztal | Permalink
- I don't get it either. Just release a ton of piggies, chickens, or whatever on your street and let your visitors have at them. Piggies take a little bit of effort and planning to snatch.
  Posted 9 months ago by EzBreezy | Permalink
- @ Sloppy Ketchup, I realize this thread is already TLDR but this is not about my being "offended" or "unwilling to .. Live and Let Glitch." I am simply pointing out that persistent trolls and bullies can actually be inconvenienced by being blocked, something that was not true in the past.
  People right now can be blocked for any reason or for none at all. The most usual reason I know that a person is blocked is that the person is spamming in Global Chat. I have been blocked by at least one person I know of for having the impudence to make this suggestion in the General Forum.
  Operationally (sorry, I'm an engineer), only the most notable and persistent trolls and bullies will be blocked by a large enough number of people to make any difference at all.
  I hope that your eagerness for everyone to tolerate diverse opinions will motivate you to tolerate my opinion, somewhat different from yours.
  Posted 9 months ago by Vocable | Permalink
- *Maybe I should have worded my post title something like "Why not block trolls and bullies, some of whom may be thieves but all of whom deserve to be inconvenienced?" I would not have chosen to word it "Let's block people with whom we have any philosophical disagreement."*
  But, as you have made quite clear the 'trolls and bullies' are the ones who disagree with you philosophically. That is why you have labeled them trolls and bullies, because they disagree with you. I'm one of those folks that have defended the ridiculousness of the idea that items freely given away by being left in public can be stolen, and yet have never seen the need to follow such a game style myself. However I'd consider a block from you a badge of honor.
  All of the portable items are so cheap I don't understand why folks want to take them when they find them on a public street, nor why anyone gets upset when they leave one out and it disappears. I leave things around for people to find all the time. It's fun, and I'm at a high enough level I can easily afford to give stuff away all day. It's so easy to get more. I'd bet the majority of this so-called 'theft' is really just newbie players finding things they currently need or are interested in and picking them up because they can.
  Also, huzzah Sloppy Ketchup! & Volkov! =)
  Posted 9 months ago by Dr. Babycat | Permalink
- I would be so much more impressed by various ringing defenses of tolerating different opinions if they didn't keep being made in the context of denouncing me for daring to express my different opinion.
  Yes, I am a wicked person for daring to disagree with any opinion you've expressed in Glitch. You certainly have guessed my secret, that my definition of a troll or bully is anybody who says anything on any topic that I don't agree with.
  Posted 9 months ago by Vocable | Permalink
- Oh, you are so wicked Vocable. The evil queen on "Once Upon A Time" could take lessons from you in evil.
  Bwhahahahaha
  :)
  Posted 9 months ago by Tibbi | Permalink
- I'm with Sloppy, Volkov and Dr. Babycat.
  Block me, please.
  Then I can never come to your street and *leave* gifts there.
  Gifts, I should note, that I expect will be collected by either you or the next person who comes along. If you get there first, great! But I'm certainly not going to complain that the un-lock-able item that I left in a place accessible to the public was taken by someone else.
  I agree that feeders, etc. should have the option of being locked on our home streets. But until/unless that happens, it's rather pointless to complain about people "stealing." Put your stuff where it can't be "stolen."
  Oh, no! That puts me on the Blacklist of the self-appointed Glitch Un-Ur-ian Activities Committee!
  Just so you know, I'm almost impossible to offend. But the suggestion that my perspective on the game would raise suspicion that I'm a thief or a troll actually upsets me. Seriously, people. Where were you when Senator McCarthy needed you?
  Posted 9 months ago by Dr.Maud, Obviously | Permalink
- I'm beginning to think the majority of players here are students or academics. Or at the very least academic wannabes.
  It's very nice for the Dr that money is no object for you any longer - you must be very pleased indeed! Nice too that you leave things 'around' Ur as I'm sure we all do. Not quite the same as leaving a piggy feeder outside your doorstep though is it.
  I saw a dumb comment earlier regarding bin men taking trash and 'were they stealing?' - I'll tell you this for nothing, if I caught someone taking the bird feeder from my front garden they wouldn't be walking straight after I'd kicked them out.
  Newbie or not, anyone smart enough to read and understand the distress that taking these items causes countless users and who still continues to raid home streets deserves none of my respect. It is all a matter of perception and mine differs hugely compared to many of the posters on this forum. I am glad and proud to be able to say that.
  To me a community is about looking after your neighbours. Not taking what you can from them.
  Posted 9 months ago by ~Arabesque~ | Permalink
- @Tibbi hugs, please don't block me, evil as I am. Maybe I will learn to be a better person as a result of being so ringingly denounced by so many highly insightful people.
  Posted 9 months ago by Vocable | Permalink
- Casarat,
  Yes, I *am* an academic. What of it?
  I am not *advocating* people taking items from others' home streets. I am simply pointing out that just because I don't agree with the perspective of the people complaining doesn't make me one of those people "who still continues to raid home streets." Actually, I don't "continue to" because I've never done it in the first place. As has been pointed out multiple times, the offensive part of this thread is the assumption that one's position on this issue is some kind of indication of one's behavior.
  Posted 9 months ago by Dr.Maud, Obviously | Permalink
- Again...perception.
  Posted 9 months ago by ~Arabesque~ | Permalink
- Do you mean your perception that I'm a thief because I disagree with you?
  Posted 9 months ago by Dr.Maud, Obviously | Permalink
- **waits to see how long it takes for thread to be locked, like all the rest, because the forums have gone mad**
  Posted 9 months ago by Soupie♨ | Permalink
- So much poo flinging ... maybe we should have in-game monkeys to do it for us.
  ETA: at least we'll have something like this and this to comfort ourselves with.
  Posted 9 months ago by Aleph Zero | Permalink
- lol, no the perception that time was due to your 'Academic' status. I'll take your word for it. At the end of the day we're all just words on a screen. It could be anyone on the other side of the computer screen (and no, I am not implying that feelings do not matter).
  That comment I made re:Students/Academics was due to how frequently I observe quoting and referencing within the forum posts.
  Posted 9 months ago by ~Arabesque~ | Permalink
- I steal because I am a noob person, remember Liv_Forever who started it?
  Posted 9 months ago by KokoBoop | Permalink
- @Soupie - I know...I think it would be grand if they just closed the general forum for a week and give us all a reprieve hehehehehe
  Posted 9 months ago by ~Arabesque~ | Permalink
- Add me to the block list. Along with everyone else who is simply describing how things are.
  I'm another player who thinks that calling people thieves after you left items lying around knowing that they could be taken is dumb, and that it's even dumber to suggest blocking people who are simply describing reality because you believe that would discourage the "thieves".
  [In case the OP decides to revise history, the current title of this thread is
  "Why not block the defenders of thieving as a way to make home-street stealing less attractive?"]
  Posted 9 months ago by WindBorn | Permalink
- @ WindBorn, I think you are responding to various strawman claims about what I said. I did try to clarify what I meant in the top post now, since so many seem to misunderstand it. But I clearly marked my revision as a later edit.
  Posted 9 months ago by Vocable | Permalink
- This is an interesting thread. I like what you (Vocable) tried to do, but people are very excitable here (myself included). It was a busy weekend, so this was all a nice distraction when taking a break from it. Thanks.
  "Good night, 'Vocable'. Good work. Sleep well. I'll most likely 'block' you in the morning."
  (not really, get the reference?) bwhahahahaha <evil grin>
  Posted 9 months ago by Tibbi | Permalink
- @Tibbi You still like me? You haven't figured out I'm just like Senator McCarthy or (predictably) worse than Hitler? Incontheeevable!
  Posted 9 months ago by Vocable | Permalink
- Vocable, I was only responding to what you yourself had posted, not to what anyone else had said.
  And now, you've made yourself even clearer: You're trying to encourage players to block other players to punish them for expressing opinions you disagree with in the forums. (" it would discourage some glitchen from posting about how street-thieves were Glitch's own Robin Hoods")
  You are trying to interfere with people's game play ("that person will be inconvenienced in harvesting by making circuits through other people's home streets. ") based on opinions expressed in the forums.
  So, in your edits, you've clarified that you want to discourage people from posting their opinions in the forum, and make it difficult for those who DO post from playing the game.
  Please add me to your block list.
  Posted 9 months ago by WindBorn | Permalink
- Wow, a lot of butthurt and wasted time and energy over stupid feeders and collectors.
  Everyone capable of making them could have made dozens of them by now, instead of having to bicker.
  Its the tree wars all over again, version 2.0 'wow my stuff OUTSIDE my house is missing'.
  Put it in your house. Then no one can take your stuff.
  Posted 9 months ago by ☣ elf ☣ | Permalink
- @WindBorn How cleverly you express what I just posted. Yes, I do want to discourage everybody but me myself and I from posting any opinion in the forums.
  @elf considering that you already blocked me, I am surprised to see you showing up repeatedly in this forum thread. But, whatever.
  Posted 9 months ago by Vocable | Permalink
- Hitler was mentioned in there? Nooooo!
  Folks, you are free to block whomever you want, of course. That's ok! The tool is there for you to use.
  There is something we liked so much we put it in our community guidelines, was to avoid assuming bad intentions in other players: some of them will think differently than you. The topic was a bit on the the pitchfork/torch side of things to start, but we understand there were some good things to hear from you about home streets. It's heading on the path to more antipathy now, and that's not helpful to anyone. Let's close this one off for now.
  Posted 9 months ago by kevbob | Permalink

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