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#### Glitches Against Greed (GAG)

This is a call to arms! Fill Neva Neva and Ajaya Bliss with as many butterflies ad glitchenly possible! The greedy actions and economy ruining actions of a small percentage of Glitches threatens to ruin Ur for us all. Before you get angry, please consider the wisdom of my gnome - "If you have to ask, you'll never know!"

Posted 14 months ago by Spittle Gauze | Permalink

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- So by making it more frustrating to mine, what precisely is being accomplished?
  Posted 14 months ago by Ren_tara, BatQueen | Permalink
- I don't understand this at all.
  "if you have to ask, you'll never know"
  ?????????????
  Posted 14 months ago by Poppy of Detwoit | Permalink
- And what is your proof that they are ruining Ur for all of us?
  Posted 14 months ago by QueenKellee | Permalink
- If some people enjoy mining why are you trying to ruin their fun? Its just a game.
  Posted 14 months ago by Papa Legba | Permalink
- This is a funny idea. I will try and support your cause. :3
  Posted 14 months ago by a lifted pixel | Permalink
- @ Lord Graham of Eli: Seriously, this.
  In what way are they ruining Ur? If anything, your endeavour is worse as you're ruining the enjoyment of anyone that mines in those streets. How does that improve anything?
  Posted 14 months ago by Myuki | Permalink
- I'm completely oblivious to your logic. Do what you want, but you're just trying to "ruin" Ur for other players the same way you complain that they are ruining it for you. People enjoy playing Glitch in different ways. C'est la vie.
  Posted 14 months ago by Kara Thrace | Permalink
- What this is, is organizing people to grief others.
  Posted 14 months ago by Crispa | Permalink
- w.....t.......f....?
  The only thing appropriate about this is your acronym.
  Posted 14 months ago by Prof. Woland | Permalink
- A call to arms to grief the majority of players due to the actions of a minority?
  Posted 14 months ago by Xanax | Permalink
- Sorry GAG, you fail.
  Protip: Double Click your pick to mine. No interaction with animals or other people is necessary.
  Posted 14 months ago by Vicereine Linnæa | Permalink
- @xanax Wait, isn't that democracy?
  Posted 14 months ago by Prof. Woland | Permalink
- Just because you don't understand how your actions hurt me does not mean they do not. Obviously they moved me to plant butterflies in the sparkly mines and encourage others to do so as well.
  Posted 14 months ago by Spittle Gauze | Permalink
- Oh...as long as YOU aren't being hurt. That's all that matters. :-p
  Posted 14 months ago by Poppy of Detwoit | Permalink
- Spittle, at least have the decency to explain HOW it hurts you. Seriously. What are miners in the caves doing that affects your way of playing? Unless you do, I'm just going to assume you're being so coy and round-about about it because it's something everyone will find ridiculous if you actually put it into words.
  Also: You own a huge house in Groddle Meadow and are at level 34. So....what gives?
  Posted 14 months ago by Prof. Woland | Permalink
- Interjecting here to reiterate that logic *does nothing* in this type of situation. It's not like the griefer-in-question hasn't thought through what they're doing and just needs a good reality check to realize how silly you think they're being.
  Posted 14 months ago by Cupcake | Permalink
- Ok guys, relax :P Some people want to mine and others want to have butterflies! Same as the spice vs gas war, we just have to find a place for each.
  Less butterflies in the mines, more butterflies everywhere else! How does that sound?
  Posted 14 months ago by Mandy.23 | Permalink
- lol...Mandy that makes no sense regarding what is being discussed here
  Posted 14 months ago by Sir Mixalatte | Permalink
- Mandy is 100% correct. I add fun and intrigue to the game and you complain that it takes you a few extra seconds at times to get some currants. People that complain about my actions are very similar to the lizards that inhabit the Bureaucratic Hall and attempt to foil smuggling attempts. Maybe read Plato's Allegory of the Cave and get some perspective: by staying in 2 streets out of 100s you are the one manacles in the cave, living their life informed by shadows and false voices.
  Posted 14 months ago by Spittle Gauze | Permalink
- im sick of ppl complainig about how the game is being ruined...first it was the pigs, now this?
  -1 for this idea
  Posted 14 months ago by ◘ ▪ Leï.Leï ▪ ◘ | Permalink
- I'm totally confuddled. I guess there will probably be no explanation forthcoming, so I suppose I will just remain that way...
  Posted 14 months ago by Shepherdmoon | Permalink
- I suppose I am also totally confounded. I can't see any way that this adds "fun and intrigue" and many ways in which this is blatant trolling for attention.
  Posted 14 months ago by Turbo Angst | Permalink
- @Spittle You are actually literally batshit.
  Posted 14 months ago by Prof. Woland | Permalink
- @Turbo Angst my thoughts exactly, thank you.
  Posted 14 months ago by Rev. Desdemona | Permalink
- If Mandy is 100% correct with... 'Less butterflies in the mines, more butterflies everywhere else! How does that sound?'... then you must be 100% confused Spittle, since that seems to go against your whole objective.
  ?
  Posted 14 months ago by Sir Mixalatte | Permalink
- ya kinda agree with Prof. Woland lol
  Posted 14 months ago by Sir Mixalatte | Permalink
- Wow spittle, what are you on? And, do you have anymore?
  Excuse me while I go find the false voices. I wanna hear what they have to say.
  Posted 14 months ago by Innie✿, Obviously | Permalink
- I am just plain confused about the issue to be honest. Why go out and overpopulate mining areas with butterflies? What are others doing to YOU that you feel compelled to be vengeful? How are "The greedy actions and economy ruining actions of a small percentage of Glitches threatens to ruin Ur for us all". What exactly are these "small percentage" of players doing that is so very bad?
  Posted 14 months ago by Casombra Amberrose | Permalink
- @Spittle - Ironically, your abstract posturing and pompous claims to be opening people's eyes and enhancing their freedoms are actually (pretty impotent) attempts to mask the fact that your actions are actually *limiting* people's freedoms. The arrogance of this is mind-boggling.
  I'd understand if the miners were issuing loans to vulnerable home-owners at exorbitant rates of interest then repossessing their homes when they defaulted, or buying up all the meat and selling it back to the populace at 300% profit, or filling the streets of Groddle with sparkly rocks that prevented you from interacting with objects on those streets ...wait... we might be on to something here....
  Posted 14 months ago by Prof. Woland | Permalink
- Any animal that is dropped in Ajaya is unhappy. Why would you torture them by leaving them all over the street? You just force the people in ajaya to adopt the animals and rescue them. Who is the one really ruining Ur? Those who like to mine or those who do things like this for attention.
  Posted 14 months ago by Deffy | Permalink
- O Gods its one of these guys. I've seen these before, they claim that they're trying to free us from our own limited perceptions by attempting to change a situation to their own design. They tend to think that they are demonstrating some life lesson about freedom and openness of thought and in a sandbox game they reckon the openness of play gives them the freedom to attempt to alter the dynamics of the system.
  That's just my reading of the situation, could be flawed, could be outright wrong, probably isnt
  In some viewpoints they are correct, and from their perspective there is simply nothing you can say to persuade them otherwise, because they tend to be accompained by a feeling of righteousness.
  The only real way of overcoming them is to band together against them which they tend to feel validates their position even more as they have then successfully changed the play dynamic.
  Unfortunately what they rarely realise this the nature of the feelings their actions cause other people - often validated in their own head as other people are responsible for their own feelings - despite the obvious flaw in the argument that if that were true then only superficial interactions would be possible.
  All we can do is hope that someday they will realise that the feelings of others are valid.
  Oh well could be worse, could be stabbed.
  Posted 14 months ago by SacredBob | Permalink
- i have 9 butterflies on my block, i love them all, but in the mining area is just silly....mining if for mining to buy houses, buy goods, etc...c'mon man it's just a game...move on please. :0
  Posted 14 months ago by tiptronic | Permalink
- I can't help but guess that you're all being trolled.
  Posted 14 months ago by Parrow Gnolle | Permalink
- have you been in the mines, Parrow Gnolle?
  Posted 14 months ago by WindBorn | Permalink
- Perhaps this new form of stupidity will convince the devs to change the priority of mining rocks vs interaction with animals.
  Posted 14 months ago by Tibbi | Permalink
- honestly, I'd say this guy's gotten what he was after at this point. Attention.
  Posted 14 months ago by Turbo Angst | Permalink
- Anybody who deliberately tries to ruin someone else's game is an asshole. There's really nothing else to say.
  Posted 14 months ago by Billy McBinky | Permalink
- I think this is just one of those situations where there's just a tad more anger than necessary on both sides. I use the term both sides lightly here considering everyone seems to be against Spittle.
  While I definitely do NOT condone their actions (gotta make that stick out, cuz sometimes you get misquoted as to your stance. :)) they are tentatively within their rights to do what they are doing. The devs will sort it out if they feel the player has breached the community guidelines clause that mentions griefing. They do read the forums. :)
  Glitch is a place where you can do things like Spittle has done, and I like that the devs give us this freedom. I think it reveals our character, even if it can cause some annoying situations. I personally feel it shows a bit of a negative side to Spittle. I'm sorry, but there's no reason to make mining difficult.
  However, I think a few of those on the other side of the issue are also painting themselves in a negative light with their comments. The anger and retaliation is not really necessary. Politely request that the offender cease their actions, and if they refuse and your gameplay is truly and seriously affected, move to another street. There are many in Callopee, Pollokoo, and Ilemenskie with lots of sparkly. :)
  Posted 14 months ago by Liza Throttlebottom | Permalink
- Hey thanks for the hint I didn't know these mines existed, I'll be mining there all the time now and not petting any piggies.
  Posted 14 months ago by Oxxy | Permalink
- Occupy Ajaya?
  Posted 14 months ago by Geeki Yogini | Permalink
- Why are we giving this even 2 seconds of our thoughts, energy, and time? I urge you to ignore the trolls who have nothing better to do than a feeble attempt at getting attention and just wait til the butterflies die and the troll gets bored
  Posted 14 months ago by Laurali | Permalink
- Don't be jealous of the rocks I got, I'm just Jenny from round the corner of the block.
  "Ajaya Bliss. Come for the mining, stay for the chat."
  Posted 14 months ago by dmnddgs | Permalink
- @ dmnddgs: Hahaha, love it!
  Posted 14 months ago by Myuki | Permalink
- My sketchy internet made me double post. Ugh.
  Posted 14 months ago by Myuki | Permalink
- If someone or some group wants to do something ridiculous like this for their own amusement, that's fine (I guess). But why try to cloak it in some sort of altruism or nobility that it inherently lacks? Just admit that you're doing it for the chuckles, and maybe more people will be happy to tolerate it for a short period of time. Call your group "The Jolly Pranksters" instead of "Glitchens Against Greed", and be honest about it.
  Unless you're doing it just for the (negative) attention?
  Posted 14 months ago by Becky | Permalink
- Like I've said in another thread, the "reasoning" for this is all over the map. Either the game's being ruined, you're butthurt over something that doesn't really have anything to do with you, you're adding mystery and intrigue and character (wtf ever that means), you're seeking attention (and by-the-by, notoriety isn't the same thing as fame), or you're attempting to tell others how to play because you've found some magical secret formula. All it boils down to is, mind your business- people who aren't playing like you do aren't ruining anything, they're playing. As they like, which they should be able to do, unhindered. And if people are specifically screwing with you in-game or ruining your game somehow, report it. Otherwise, this just comes off as a thinly-veiled control issue wrapped up in pretentious rhetoric, and should probably be viewed as such.
  Posted 14 months ago by Djabriil | Permalink
- You know what's annoying about this? Some of us mine for the elements. I used to go to AB to mine sparkly for the shiny elements. I've never sold my sparkly for anything. I use it to make EHSP and then I use it or sell it.
  Also, all these complaints about mining, piggy napping, tree poisoning....These actions are included in the game for a reason. That's the way that TS made it. I had a quest where I had to kidnap some piggies from a street, there's an achievement for tree poisoning and AB and Neva Neva were created by the devs for people to go and mine as they please.
  Stop complaining people and let other's play the game how they want. If someone kills your favorite tree PLANT ANOTHER, someone steals a piggie HATCH ANOTHER, someone decided to go to a locked room and mine all they want DEAL WITH IT.
  Let's stop being whiny squabblers and just play the damn game!
  Posted 14 months ago by Sam from Bewitched | Permalink
- Um, side note Sam from Bewitched is my second account that I use cause I want to plant herbs but didn't want to have to sell my 50K House to move to a smaller one in the bogs. So, clarification, in case anyone looks at Sam's stats and sees she has no mining skills. LOL Forgot what account I was under.
  Posted 14 months ago by Papa Legba | Permalink
- If you want to have fun instead of trying to go Scanners on my head, form an organization against me. You can be Deimaginators Into Mining (DIM). Although I suggest maybe using your imagination and coming up something a little more flattering for yourselves.
  Posted 14 months ago by Spittle Gauze | Permalink
- Also, GAG is fricking hilarious.
  Posted 14 months ago by Spittle Gauze | Permalink

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