Topic

visiting / harvesting concern

So for a while I was competing in the top of the leaderboards for today's quest, and was visiting as many streets as I could, on any serious route or basic housing route I could find. I noticed that a user on a route had me blocked though, and that got me thinking. 

I know herb harvesting and crop harvesting are controversial topics that draw out tons of people commenting, and I am 100% on the 'harvest, clear, replant' team because not only is it common courtesy, it's impolite to do otherwise. Whenever I use the community crop garden route or the herb route or the yellow crumb route (that I've started to frequent) for any reason (in this case it was to pet trees and such where many people might not be), I worry that my name popping up in 'who visited' might cause a ban like it clearly did in this case. Someone might come a while behind me and muck up the whole garden, and our names are side by side in the who visited butler message, and thus I'm put to blame for something I've not done. 

While it is very possible the user in question could have banned me for other reasons (I'm not above thinking I do things wrong sometimes, but I hadn't visited this user other than the route) I do think that it kind of sucks getting banned and 1) not knowing why or 2) having it be because of some irresponsible player that mucks up gardens and muddies everyone else's name in the who visited. 

I guess I just wanted to see what other peoples opinions on this topic are. I understand a users right to ban, but sometimes it really sucks when you try to do everything right and pay forward the kindness of other glitches and find yourself banned :c 

For now, something I've been doing is leaving little messages or gifts with the owners of the street letting them know what I've done or not done, just in case. :)

Posted 44 days ago by Kurtie Subscriber! | Permalink

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  • Unfortunately we can only conjecture on why and we cannot really dictate on others who they should and should not ban from their street. And yes, it would suck to be banned from a street, however that should not stop you from from paying glitchy kindness forward. 
    Posted 44 days ago by Mal'akh Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Oh no, it's definitely not going to stop me, I was just concerned over the fact that, the method of banning looters, while a good idea, kind of sucks for those of us that play the game kindly.
    Posted 44 days ago by Kurtie Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I'm in the same boat as you... I do my best to be a responsible visitor, but found myself blocked by someone on a route.  It sucks and feels hurtful, as if someone is saying "I think you are a bad person!" and you have no way to tell them otherwise... but we really can't guess as to the motivations of the person who blocked.  Alas!  
    Posted 44 days ago by Twotone Subscriber! | Permalink
  • It was suggested to me early on in my glitchy existence that leaving a small tip for the garden owner is a good way to say "hey, I'm not a jerk" and keep you off of the banned list.  Doesn't have to be big... even just a few flowers.  Or if you didn't get much, a quick note just to say thanks for hosting the resources goes a long way, too.

    However, there are some that seem to be of the very firm mindset that their street is their private property and bans anyone that comes along.  I know for a fact there's one person with a lot of herbs (or used to be before the nerf anyway, not sure anymore) that does that.  I and every single one of my friends that happened to visit got banned from that street.  (And no, we didn't visit at the same time)
    Posted 44 days ago by spacekadt Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Playing styles will vary,you can hope ppl do what you want and then hope for the best, most ppl though are nice and do water, weed, replant. Personally i think banning should only be done if the person is harassing you or repeatedly goes out of their way to do things contrary to how you want things done, not one time offenses. But that varies by person as well, and while some will ban for small offenses, they do have the right to do so. That being said when a player didn't do anything or at least didn't do anything on purpose they are left wondering scratching their head. They cant communicate because they are banned, and the banner as a default, to protect them from abusive or unwanted contact, cant communicate either. It would be nice if before ppl ban, for minor offenses , they would contact the person before, rather than ban without inquiry. But that rarely happens usually because it takes effort and time. If were talking from harassment type issues, things like that please ban ASAP, but thats different than minor things.....and im hoping this doesn't start yet another garden debate.
    Posted 44 days ago by Lyrical DejaVu Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I'm always worried that I'll somehow offend a street owner or get banned. While I do worry about being wrapped up with a rude player, I also worry that some street owners may have their own unstated rules and etiquette. 

    In the end, though, we'll just have to brush it off if/when it happens.  
    Posted 44 days ago by Fawnie Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Yeah, that's all true. I don't worry so much about rules, because if it's a public route that they opted into, then they should expect their resources to be used, and welcome that. But I do worry about this happening again, so I've been leaving little notes and/or gifts to owners. I got a nice reply from one street owner and they added me as a friend so -shrug-
    Posted 44 days ago by Kurtie Subscriber! | Permalink
  • spacekadt: It was suggested to me early on in my glitchy existence that leaving a small tip for the garden owner is a good way to say "hey, I'm not a jerk" and keep you off of the banned list.

    Someone made you an offer you couldn't refuse? Sounds like they're working on the extortion achievement.
    Posted 44 days ago by Wrong Way Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I just got banned by someone on a route, much to my surprise. (I mean, heck, I bring you IMG, I clean up after myself and tithe icons and all sorts of nice stuff... plus, why on earth do you put your street on a route if you don't want visitors???) It's kind of a PITA, and I have to admit I'm curious about what I did to offend, but... well, it's a free Ur.
    Posted 44 days ago by Georgia Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I'm on three routes, and I have not banned anyone since joining them.  I humbly suggest that resource routes consider making it policy that members do not ban anybody for simply visiting, no matter how poorly they take care of the streets.  Too hard to police, and I think banning mere vandals is against the philosophy of the routes, anyway.

    It's just a suggestion though.  I leave it up to the curators and members to decide if that makes any sense.  And no judgment if you disagree!

    Cheers!
    Posted 44 days ago by Carl Projectorinski Subscriber! | Permalink
  • You will be banned from someone's street if they block you for any reason...so, this means someone could have blocked you for something other than how you behaved on their street: something you said to them in-game, something you said in Global Chat, or on the forums, etc. There are lots of reasons people block, it isn't always just street behaviour, yet the end result is you can't go to their street. 
    Posted 44 days ago by Lynnt Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Yes, I understand banning/blocking, I mention them interchangeably because they're the same thing in this game. I'm a very quiet voice in Ur, this is only one of my 2nd main forum post (the others were just asking for help) so I don't think it was related to outside of the route. It could have been, like I said, I'm not perfect,  but the main part of this post was that it bothered me that, should someone be banning on the state of their street and 'who visited', it's a flawed, sad system.
    Posted 44 days ago by Kurtie Subscriber! | Permalink
  • the only reason i ever block is for annoying, irritating or bigoted chat behaviour...
    Posted 44 days ago by Arietty Subscriber! | Permalink
  • How do you know if someone has blocked you? 
    Posted 44 days ago by ♥shay♥ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • You click to visit their street and it doesn't allow you too. You also have no option to add them as a friend.
    Posted 44 days ago by Kurtie Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I am on two routes and have recently blocked a person who I learned blocked me first.

    I very rarely chat in any channel, I don't recall ever having been to this person's street (looking at the details, I cannot imagine why I would have gone there), I don't use crop/herb routes so it's not as though I left a mess anywhere (nor would I have anyway), and I have never had any direct interaction with this person. So, I'm not sure what it is I did that warranted being blocked. I also don't care. I simply blocked in return and moved on.

    I think some people are just block-happy. :|

    The bottom line is, if I don't have the freedom to take advantage of the resources on your street, you shouldn't have permission to use mine, regardless of how many routes I am on.

    Then again, I suppose that if you cared enough to block me, you wouldn't want to visit my street anyway, so there's that.
    Posted 44 days ago by Perion Subscriber! | Permalink