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PLEASE READ! Killing Trees does not make automatically make me a jerk...

i decided to kill a few spice trees in ix in flipside and people started calling me a jerk! this pisses me off.
Just because someone kills a few trees doesnt make them a jerk. Also i was merely freeing up plots to let the people decide whether to plant new spice plants or plant something else.

I respect the people that love spice being in ix!...thats why i generally leave east and west spice alone. but i consider any other street fair game. You guys should think twice before calling somebody a jerk. Besides, i wasnt going on a tree killing spree,just killing a few trees thats it.

FYI calling people a jerk without clearly knowing if they are a jerk is kind of jerky...

Posted 13 months ago by Riddleguy Subscriber! | Permalink

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  • Context is everything! If you do acts perceived as contentious in the middle of a known zone of contention, you're likely to be called a jerk. It's unreasonable to expect anything else.
    Posted 13 months ago by Pascale Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I'm definitely with the author on this. A lot of Glitches I have met so far all tend to have a very narrow view on what is consider acceptable behavior in Glitch or are too easy offended. If it's in the game, it's kind of fair game. Unless you're doing something directly when someone asks nicely for you to stop, I don't see how it could be wrong. I know there are lots of sociable and helpful people on Glitch and they've come expect everyone else to behave according to these norms. I've had someone call me vulgarities because I didn't respond to their requests to help them complete their quest. I was afk.
    Posted 13 months ago by Supermerlion Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Oh, come on.  You know good and well there are people who go to Ix to harvest spice.  Killing spice trees people are trying to harvest for cooking is a jerk move and people are going to call you out on it.
    Posted 13 months ago by Lucille Ball Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I dont think its  unreasonable!especially since not everybody can be expected to know that. Sure, i know its a known zone of contention but newer players might not. ...or at least not totally.

    I guess i can see someone killing  a few trees in one street being percieved as a jerk...that was my bad as good intentions as mine were. but i dont think this is unreasonable for just killing one or two trees in a street.
    Posted 13 months ago by Riddleguy Subscriber! | Permalink
  • It took me ages to find gas what with all the spice trees there recently, if they were insulting you it might have been because you weren't doing it fast enough.
    Posted 13 months ago by Benzyl Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Killing spice trees in ix is not a jerk move unless you are trying to kill all the spice trees in ix. Also i see nothing wrong with planting different trees in ix.
    Posted 13 months ago by Riddleguy Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Ix is not the only, nor is it the best, place to look for gas.  There are places where gas can be planted that spice cannot.  

    So while I wouldn't call you a jerk, I do carry antidote and would not hesitate to stop your poisoning.  
    Posted 13 months ago by Red Sauce Subscriber! | Permalink
  • if people are going to kill all the gas in IX and replace it with spice, they should expect that people aren't going to be happy. Who's the jerks now?
    Posted 13 months ago by QueenKellee Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Unfortunately for those who have difficulty using the jumping and other hand-skills, Ix is the only place to collect gas that you don't get stuck.  Some players have decided that it doesn't matter, since their right to collect spice in a convenient spot outweighs anyone else's right to collect gas in a convenient spot.  

    Those who keep gas plants alive in Ix have my deepest sympathy and appreciation.  I have yet to understand the "just go somewhere else less convenient" argument that people who use spice make when people who need gas plant gas in Ix.  The game was designed for both plants to be available in that region.  
    Posted 13 months ago by WindBorn Subscriber! | Permalink
  • The three streets on the eastern side of Ix Island (yes, it's an island) are almost all spice. Just the lone Paper Tree. And I like the presence of Gas Trees on the western side. This seems to be a workable distribution (and I cook - a lot!). And if I make a Flaming Humbaba I need bot Gas and Spice to make it The above arrangement makes this possible, especially with Uncle Friendly's and the drink Vendor there for the Hooch and Beer. Hit the Spice Trees on the east? Yeah, you are being a jerk. But on the western side? No. Gas, Bubble and Spice Trees are nice to have on Ix in quantity. If that's what your aim was, I'm behind you all the way. :)
    Posted 13 months ago by Fokian Fool Subscriber! | Permalink
  • If someone insults me, I just block the player, report abuse and move on. 
    Posted 13 months ago by Natalia Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Spice and gas aren't nearly as scarce as empty patches.  Dirt piles had to be added to the game because players are so eager to fill each patch with a tree.
    Posted 13 months ago by glum pudding Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Maybe some of those that are able and use if often should plant Gas plants in their yard? When I moved into my house in Groddle Forest, I was fortunate enough to have a Gas plant in my yard already, but I actually don't really use Gas for anything I'm doing currently so it tends to just sit around until I auction it to free up space. If anybody uses Gas a lot and wants some or would like to come harvest, please just send me a message or stop by when I'm home.  =)

    In regards to gameplay preferences (they aren't rules because there aren't rules) I thank everyone for doing what they can to contribute to the sense of common human decency I often see exhibited in Glitch. All we can do is try to politely make our intentions known and if someone doesn't like it... Well, that's kinda their own fault for missing out on the opportunity to make a friend. =)
    Posted 13 months ago by starrkittyface Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Well i like gas trees more than spice trees... And maybe killing few trees does not make someone a jerk... But such forum threads surely does.
    Posted 13 months ago by Kiprian Subscriber! | Permalink
  • In my opinion, people calling you a jerk for killing trees, makes those people seem like the jerks rather than you. 
    Killing trees is a part of the game. There are even badges for it.
    As far as I'm aware there are no badges for calling people jerks. 
    Posted 13 months ago by Ebil Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I read this topic with great interest, because I currently have the quest where you have to plant a tree in 3 different regions. I've been puzzling about it for days, since there are rarely free patches that I can get to quickly enough. It seems to me that the only way to finish this quest is to go to each region, kill one of the trees there and then replace it with another one.

    The only reason I hesitate to do this is because I'm afraid some unknowing person will come along and call me a jerk without first asking why I'm poisoning the tree, or apply antidote before even knowing the purpose.

    I can't think of any reason to immediately call someone a jerk without first asking them why they are doing what they are doing.
    Posted 13 months ago by Flowerry Pott Subscriber! | Permalink
  • It didn't come up because I was careful to go to deserted streets when doing that 3 different regions quest, but I just made sure to season a bean of the same kind as the tree I was killing.

    And then wait around for the several awkward minutes while the tree screams for help... D:

    I didn't have to say anything but had someone come by I would have said "Please don't mind me, I have a fruit tree bean right here and I'm just killing the tree for the quest."  Hopefully that would be enough to let them leave me alone.  After all most people know that quest exists and there are pretty much no empty patches in Ur.
    Posted 13 months ago by Space Core Subscriber! | Permalink
  • @Flowerry Pott: When I had that quest, I went out of my way to find a place that I thought nobody would even notice me killing a tree. WRONG. Some jerk added the antidote, and he knew damn well what he was doing too; gave me a curt "sorry" and then flitted off. A second person came by and I almost had to beg the person not to add the antidote. I replanted whatever was there to try and keep the peace.
    Posted 13 months ago by Echo Subscriber! | Permalink
  • @Flowerry Pot, I recently did that quest and yes you'll most likely have to poison a tree. Just be prepared for people putting antidote on, either on purpose or not (I have accidnetly antidote-ed a tree simply because I had it on me and wasn't paying attention when I went to harvest). 

    Note when I did it, to avoid any drama, I also tried to choose out of the way areas (although 1 was not so out of the way). I also typed into local chat "I'm doing a quest" to anyone who stopped and seemed like they were unsure of what I was doing. I only had 1 person use antidote, but I was prepared with extra poison. Just a few extra minutes. No biggie.
    Posted 13 months ago by QueenKellee Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I suggest, for tree poisoning quests/badges, going into places where not a lot of people pass by, and where nobody really cares what trees are around as long as there are trees, such as Tamila or Muufo. Also, don't poison on the same street as a gardening vendor, because it's more likely that people will decide to go out of their way to purchase antidote if it's right there.
    Posted 13 months ago by Effigy Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I wish Glitches would stop killing the Gas Plants on the Gas side of Ix and plant Spice :( I have to replant them nearly every morning o.O

    People need both Spice AND Gas, and no one want to go far away to get their fix. That region is for both, and no one should have to go home empty handed like I often have to when I go there for my wonderful gas -_- (I get plenty more spice than needed though and I use a lot of that too!)

    Keep Spice Trees to West Spice, East Spice and Flipside! Don't kill our Gas!
    And keep Gas Plants to Baby Steppes, Guillermo Gamera Way and Groddle Ladder, no need to take revenge xD
    Posted 13 months ago by Tsuki Subscriber! | Permalink
  • If you need to poison a tree for a quest, go to a housing block.  Especially in Groddle Meadow, the housing blocks often have trees on the far left side of the block, out of sight of almost all residents of the block, whom you are statistically unlikely to meet in any case. 
    Posted 13 months ago by WalruZ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • If your act was perceived as being that of a jerk, perhaps it's because there were 'tree warz' early on. It's the only point of comparison/reference, thus the automatic, 'Jerk!' response.

    It's kind of like the troublemakers tagging onto the Occupy Oakland protests. There's plenty of video showing Occupiers trying to block these people, put out fires, help clean up ... but the image of protesters = violent jerks gets into the mix, and it sticks.
    Posted 13 months ago by TK-855 Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Thanks for the suggestions, everyone! :)
    Posted 13 months ago by Flowerry Pott Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I gently suggest that you grow a thicker skin. You cannot police what other people approve/disapprove of, and your tone of self-righteous indignation simply suggests that you want to take actions immune to the judgment of others. You play the game, and let others play the game. If social approval/disapproval is so important to you, then you shouldn't poison spice trees in Ix, or you should join the small groups of people who really want to poison all of the spice trees to hear their approval. But general consensus runs against you, and people will voice their opinion.
    Posted 13 months ago by Miri Tazapin Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I don't get it.  I use both gas and spice.  I generally go elsewhere for gas.  What is so difficult or inconvenient about the other zones where gas is located?  

    I don't actually poison trees, but I still don't get what the problem is.  
    Posted 13 months ago by Red Sauce Subscriber! | Permalink
  • IMO,  poisoning is no problem if you plant something new in its place.  Poisoning for the sake of nothing is...well lame.
    Posted 13 months ago by Boe Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Not everyone have the time to go far away to get their gas, or have teleport to get there easy :( It really should be no problem to keep both spice and gas on Ix! Its plenty of spice to go around without having to kill of the gas, or buy the rest of auction o.O
    Posted 13 months ago by Tsuki Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Spice or gas in Ix/Uralia/wherever, I really don't care either way. Just a weeeeee bit tired of the whole thing. When I run through for a harvesting, I'd prefer trees I can actually harvest instead of poisoned, patches, or tiny little sprouts.

    Whatever resource it is that you need or someone else needs, you're denying everyone ANY resource during the whole process of poisoning and replanting, even if you shorten it up with Fert dust. That is just not Glitchenly in my opinion. =(
    Posted 13 months ago by Garney Subscriber! | Permalink
  • *gasps* how dare you? :D
    Posted 13 months ago by Eye Wonder Subscriber! | Permalink
  • "The gas side of Ix?"  I'm sorry, what giant proclaimed that?
    Posted 13 months ago by Lucille Ball Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I am wondering that as well Lucille!
    Posted 13 months ago by Casombra Amberrose Subscriber! | Permalink
  • No giant, just game tradition.  When Ix was first opened, East and West Spice were solely spice trees.  Flipside was a mixture, and the other streets were predominantly gas.  
    Posted 13 months ago by WindBorn Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Tsuki, if that reply was to me, I guess I still don't see how Ix is located more conveniently than the other zones.  I don't have a port set to any of those areas, and I still don't get the difficulty.  Perhaps it is only convenient for the people that live in a Groddle zone?  Otherwise, I find it just as convenient/inconvenient to go to any zone where I can find spice or gas.  
    Posted 13 months ago by Red Sauce Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I really don't get the big Ix gas/spice thing. It's really overblown.

    If somebody calls you a jerk for killing a couple trees (okay, if I said that in real life...), they're a jerk. This is all one big world. That person could go poison it, replant to what they want. Go for their badge. XP.

    Here is my opinion: the dark streets in Ix are gas. Like East Spice/West Spice. Light yellow streets like the GGW should be gas/others. It makes sense. Both gas and spice trees are valuable. Ix is a perfect place to harvest both. Both are needed for cooking. Ix is an awesome place to go cook. Spice, gas, food and drink store... awesome.

    You can fight. You can poison. You can gasp and say you don't like things. Just don't call people jerks/other insults without knowing them first. If you don't like the gas, go poison it and plant spice in its place.

    Don't blow this out of proportion is what I can say.
    Posted 13 months ago by Palindrome Subscriber! | Permalink
  • This is my input on the whole Ix tree wars situation that this thread seems to be delving into :P

    You can get both Gas and Spice in the bog areas but you won't get the same amount of trees or the same consistency as you get in Ix. I think it's only fair that we split it half Gas and half Spice, particularly considering that was the original arrangement.

    If people are going to be greedy and insist on all of Ix being Spice then maybe we should say goodbye to the Spice trees in the bogs >:3
    Posted 13 months ago by Dexiro Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Recently I walked by a tree that had been poisoned (NOT in Ix) and was in the process of dying.  Someone was standing near it and I thought maybe they wanted to rescue it. I had only recently purchased some antidote so I asked if they had poisoned the tree.  They said yes. After a moment or two they added that it was for a quest, and that they were replanting. I said oh, ok.  I then felt bad because I did not want to intimidate someone who was just playing the game.  So I gave them a hug and said 'have fun'.  IOW I did not want to make someone doing a quest (and acting responsibly) feel bad.
    I too am sorta tired of the 'tree wars', and I really dont like to stand around and watch a tree die.  But I do not want to go so far the other way that I end up ruining the game for someone myself.  So maybe sometime 'jerkdom' is in the eye of the beholder.  
    Posted 13 months ago by bludwaggie Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I shall prepare myself for being called a jerk the 1009 times it will take me to get my Paul Bunions badge :D  because I will be trying for it, and it will mean killing trees.   Will probably avoid ix though, my thin skin is not brave enough.... or is it? ;-)

    Anyone who calls you a jerk for doing something that is a part of the game sounds unpleasant.  People are so hung up on 'rules' atm.. the forums are full of it.. pfffft  TS would probably step in if they were unhappy with how things were, so just get on with it, you're not answerable to any of us..block the unpleasant people.
    Posted 13 months ago by icatchm0nkeys Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Im not trying to start a tree wars topic.The whole point of this thread was merely to make a public service announcement...like the ones on tv saying not to smoke and to save the earth.

    Basically, what im saying is you guys shouldn't  be so quick to judge others and call them a jerk whether it be poisoning trees,moving pigs or even hatching animals in neva neva and anything else you can think of that may be perceived as jerky.

    That person moving the pig  may simply be doing it for the quest, and that person poisoning the tree may genuinely want to plant something new and not be aware of the tree wars due to being new.

    While i cant force you guys to not be quick to judge, i hope most of you will take what i have said into serious consideration. Because we want to be a happy game community right?
    Posted 13 months ago by Riddleguy Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I've met people poisoning trees in Aranna, but for the most part they replace what they poison. In my opinion the jerks are the the ones who poison and leave without re-planting any kind of tree in its place. Poisoning a tree and replacing it is the mark of a responsible Glitch.

    — Mal'akhPrimate of LemPrimus Inter Pares of the Orthodox Church of the Giants of UrHubby of ArannaShriner of Mullangi Meda
    Posted 13 months ago by Mal'akh Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I was gonna comment but the whole thread made me so sad I went to play a 1st person shooter. BTW I AM a jerk and am offended by yr casual use of this term as abuse. Jerks of Glitch unite!
    Posted 13 months ago by Freddie the Fearful Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Had no idea there WERE tree wars in Glitch until I went out questing for beans and spice from Salatu to Ix. Someone had poisoned 3-4 entire streets of bean trees in Salatu and about half the spice trees in Ix (West and East Spice) and the capper on the whole experience was reading the notes left behind (paraphrased):

    "Ha ha, I've stolen ALL your pigs and am taking them home to use in my private pen where you can't come get them back."
    "I poisoned ALL your trees; HOW DO YOU LIKE IT?"
    "Y U NO LEAVE TREEZ ALONE?"
    "Hey guys, what's going on in this street?"
    "OBJECTION!!"
    (etc)

    It is all well and good to have some kind of rivalry with another Glitch or group of Glitchen, but try to restrict the turf wars to actions that do not annoy or inconvenience uninvolved parties.

    Also, guilty, as a two day old n00b, of casually administering an antidote to a poisoned tree as I was passing by...which enraged the poor Glitch standing next to the tree waiting for it to die for a quest. Man, did I feel like a crapsack. I apologized profusely and asked what I could do to help make up for it, but the other player was so angry s/he could not form words in understandable English in the chat to express his/her rage...just a lot of #$%^&!!!! (D'oh!)

    And I STILL did not know there were tree wars going on, as Angry Glitch did not bother to explain that. 

    On the plus side, I now know to go to the far end of an unpopular cul-de-sac when I get to that quest, and to replace the poisoned tree with the exact same kind.
    Posted 13 months ago by ✰ Lorelei ✰ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • The spice tree groves in eastern Ix are incredibly valuable. Before I found that I spent hours wandering around Jethimadh and Chakra Phool looking for spices. I kept running low on energy because I didn't have the salt to make buns or tortillas or anything like that. I can understand why people would get a bit upset.
    Posted 13 months ago by Perilous Percival Subscriber! | Permalink
  • You should probably learn how to handle being called a jerk and just shrug it off instead of making a thread about it.
    Posted 13 months ago by Bluigi Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Putting 'READ THIS!' in your post title makes you a jerk in my book.  You described the post perfectly well in the rest of the title, I'll decide whether I want to read it or not based on that.
    Posted 13 months ago by Josiah Thimblerig Subscriber! | Permalink
  • What Josiah said.
    Posted 13 months ago by Fluxan Subscriber! | Permalink
  • This is a funny thread.  :)  Neither killing spice trees in Ix nor calling someone a jerk are Horrible Crimes.  If you feel bad about being called a jerk, or about seeing spice trees killed, stop and think that maybe the other person feels equally bad about the other thing.

    (Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes.  That way, when you do criticize them, you are a mile away; and you have their shoes!)
    Posted 13 months ago by Orbst Subscriber! | Permalink
  • it would not have been a huge issue.......However, there were bubble trees planted in place of spice.  That does not make sense. Who in their right mind would plant bubble trees on East Spice?
    Posted 13 months ago by Innie✿, Obviously Subscriber! | Permalink
  • this is my last reply i have said all there is to say pretty much. its up to you guys what to do with it. I am pretty tolerable of being called names and jerkiness and stuff, but there are times like this when i must do something. I know i am not the only one who has had situations in game like mine.(i.e the person who was getting yelled at for mining willy nilly in ajaya a while back)

    PS on a sidenote, i find it laughable that people think im a jerk because of the topic title. I changed READ THIS! to PLEASE READ! through anyways.

     
    Posted 13 months ago by Riddleguy Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Riddleguy:  If people think you are Jerkson McJerkyface then let them.  In the end...its a free game.  But dont be upset if your actions are disagreeable with others.  At that point you can continue doing it or not.  End of story.

    End of Jerkington McJerktown is up to you.
    Posted 13 months ago by Boe Subscriber! | Permalink
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