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Please help get the piggies out of the mines! And Devs... please stop the animals from being there

In particular in Bayad Yadding there are a ton swarming around the shrine.  I can only get one but they're sad and under-fed!  Not to mention in the way >_<

People keep doing this, with various types of animals, and it's really frustrating.  To the miners it's aggravating, and it's cruel to the animals.  Devs can you do something about this please?

Posted 13 months ago by ♪♥~ Auren ~♥♪ Subscriber! | Permalink

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  • Use a 12 sided die, and roll Rooks like crazy.
    I did the other day, and rolled about 3 of the buggers.
    Posted 13 months ago by Volkov Subscriber! | Permalink
  • It's 'cruel' to some pixelated animals?

    That doesn't make sense.  Really, they just interfere with mining.  Be honest that it's about you.  Not pixelated animals.
    Posted 13 months ago by Parrow Gnolle Subscriber! | Permalink
  • @Parrow I can't speak for anyone else, but I get sad when the animals get all depressed. I want to scoop them all up and take them home with me. I don't mine, either.
    Posted 13 months ago by Rev. Desdemona Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I don't like sad animals either. The griefers know that, and that's why they do stuff like this. Headed to Bayad Yadding to save at least one piggie. :)
    Posted 13 months ago by Wynella Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I think that Miso George IS being honest (based on my gameplay experiences with the player).  If the devs didn't want us to feel invested in the welfare of the animals they wouldn't show them suffering and complaining in areas like this, they'd just make them disappear when overcrowded.  It's designed, in part, to ENCOURAGE players like MG to fix the problem.  Be careful when assuming players' intent; all miners are not, by default, greedy.
    Posted 13 months ago by Sloppy Ketchup Subscriber! | Permalink
  • when i am in a mine, i appreciate animals there so i can harvest some food while i'm mining.

    i am happy to handfeed pigs i meet there. it seems like a fair trade.

    overcrowded pigs will wander off to other streets eventually.
    Posted 13 months ago by flask Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Thank you for the help and support guys.  And thanks Sloppy :`)  Parrow's post almost made me cry (yes I'm overly sensitive but besides that, what he said is untrue).  I know the piggies make other miners miserable too, and the pigs themselves STARVE in the mines!  I don't care they're just pixels, they seem to have feelings so we should treat them as such.

    Flask I don't think it's true that overcrowded or starving pigs will wander elsewhere, I'm fairly certain they'll stay there and starve to death, as evidenced previously on other streets by piles of meat that were once abandoned piggies.  :c
    Posted 13 months ago by ♪♥~ Auren ~♥♪ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • If the pigs 'starved to death' they wouldn't leave behind all that tasty meat when they leave an area.
    Posted 13 months ago by Parrow Gnolle Subscriber! | Permalink
  • i'm sorry, MG. i think i should have said that just overcrowding makes them wander off. they either adapt or they move on. pigs adapt to overcrodwing better than the other animals.

    they can't adapt to starvation and they do die, leaving meat. they also die when they have reached the end of their natural lifespan, which has something to do with how much they get harvested.

    they last longer than butterflies, that's for sure.
    Posted 13 months ago by flask Subscriber! | Permalink
  • You could leave some grain on the ground? I'm sure we can plant some chickens there to help.

    But if you really want them out of there, just announce it in global. There's also a group (http://www.glitch.com/groups/RA5NI4SRL1F2V7F/) that's dedicated to relocating pigs that need saving. :)
    Posted 13 months ago by Ellisande Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Yes, there are groups dedicated to saving piggies just like this. If I see a starving piggy, I don't just move along, I feed it something. Who doesn't need seeds anyways? I always do! If there is an animal vendor nearby, I will capture one and move it to a street with a tree.
    Posted 13 months ago by Eye Wonder Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I did mention it in chat -and- in the groups, but since 1 person can only get 1 piggy from an area every 42 game days it still left a lot in need of rescue!

    And this has been discussed at length before all over the forums, piggies will not always eat what's left for them and will still starve even with food left on the ground.  Also that doesn't take into account players who see grain or other food left for pigs and take it for themselves. >:(
    Posted 13 months ago by ♪♥~ Auren ~♥♪ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • A few of us spent a couple hours today trying to roll until we could clear out that area, because of all the complaints. Chickens and butterflies. The pigs would've been moved if there were any. But in the end, despite notes and a lot of hopping around and crying out in local, people came to revive everything before they could all die....

    So...clearing the mine of butterflies will take a lot more work than just rolling rooks. It's so much easier to create animals than get rid of them, and by the level they were flying, it looked like they were intentionally put there to get in the way. One or two I don't mind, but the mine animals do seem to be multiplying lately, and I'm not sure if there is reason, other than "because it's funny."

    ...and...I might've done the grain taking thing once today, because I didn't realize and sort of just wanted to clean up XD I thought somebody accidentally squeezed one of the mine chickens and was emptying their bag for sparkly...so I apologize if anybody saw that and got mad! Grain on the floor = left for pigs from now on!
    Posted 13 months ago by Jia-pop Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I think decreasing the limits on piggy napping in area would help solve this problem. Maybe increase the limit to two piggies and decrease the cool down time to a few days. Another good idea would be to remove the limit all together for removing sad piggies.

    As for chickens and butterflies. It would be nice to have a butterfly net or a chicken grabber of some sort so we could nab these critters similiarly to piggies.
    Posted 13 months ago by Melting Sky Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Piggies = free meat in the mines. I don't see the problem.

    Just mine around them, and of course always offer crops and a petting. :)

    Also, we don't use captured piggies, we grow them from eggs.
    Posted 13 months ago by scribblecat Subscriber! | Permalink
  • In the interests of there being two sides to every story, I'm pretty sure those pigs were put there in protest to the rook incident earlier today. A lot of people didn't take especially kindly to being splanked and yelled at not to revive animals, after an intentional rook attack.
    Posted 13 months ago by GirlWhatSqueaks Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I popped into Bayadd today, the scene was grim; my first instinct was to revive...
    I was confused when I was told 'DOUCHE MOVE' and then was splanked...
    I thought this was rather rude...
    Then they explained to me that the butterflies were annoying and they were too lazy to mine around them.  Therefore they must die.

    Huh!?!
    Strange attitude.  I'm also a miner, but appreciate animals in the caves.   
    I called in reinforcements. And they replied with vigor!

    When life returned to the cave, I noticed several miners using fecundity powders, milking, nibbling..... a little feeding of the piggies and the caves are that much more productive. 

    Anyway... just a game... cool thing about it is that everyone shapes it...
    Some will keep trying to roll rook... I'll keep trying to make sure we all have life and food down in the mines. 
    Posted 13 months ago by MixMasterG Subscriber! | Permalink
  • If the animals can't survive down in the mines without constant supervision, that may be a hint that they don't want to be down in the mines. The amount of harvesting you can do from a sad animal is minimal.

    The motivation to help other players was good, but the result appears to be severely flawed (and upsetting to the more sensitive players).
    Posted 13 months ago by ✰ Lorelei ✰ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Bayadd doesn;t seem so bad right now...
    Posted 13 months ago by Petra Herata Dynica Subscriber! | Permalink
  • no more piggies, just some chicken and butterflies. problem solved?
    Posted 13 months ago by Alexis Hex Subscriber! | Permalink
  • For those who were offended at being splanked we do apologize. We did them to gain your attenrion in local chat so we could explain our motives, since our notes by the entrances did not seem to work.

    MixmasterG, I remember you, and until now, I had assumed youd done it accidentslly. To you, we did apologize, and the splank was more to get your attention because we didnt think you were looking at local and was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt. But if you were the one that was calling people with no explanation to us to come and revive, like we were at least courteous to give you, then it does come off as sort of rude. You ended up really upsetting a few of us because we were trying for so long, and we weren't lazy. We were responding to the complaints of a number of other glitches that we had seen there. No hard feelings since its done now, but you could have said something so we didn't waste our time staying down there when people were intentionally coming to revive everything anyway. I do appreciate the ability to affect the world around us, but would have been nice to at least give us a chance at it too. We weren't trying to kill them all either. Just lessen the numbers.
    Posted 13 months ago by Jia-pop Subscriber! | Permalink
  • And again to the devs, this would all (or at least mostly) be a moot point if mining took priority over animals. Double clicking the pick does NOT work all the time (I'm beginning to think not most of the time).

    Please change the priority. As much as house keys are fun, it would have been more useful to retaining some sanity if the devs had tweaked the priorities a little first,

    :)
    Posted 13 months ago by Tibbi Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I think that the animals in mines issue is like the gas/spice issue - the devs need to stay out of it, and the drama that ensues is gameplay.
    Posted 13 months ago by Jewel Stoned Subscriber! | Permalink
  • This whole thread represents so much wasted energy trying to control the way other people play the game!  It's supposed to be fun, fer f***'s sake!
    Posted 13 months ago by Sloppy Ketchup Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Unfortunately, after yesterday, I think it's a harder thing to balance out on its own. It takes so long for an animal to actually die, even when attacked by a rook, that there is plenty of time to people come from halfway across the map to come revive, and even easier for them to just create new animals. :(

    Acknowledging this, I know it isn't something that people who don't want animals in the mine even have a chance of winning...but we were willing to give a little bit of a try all to just reduce four butterflies to three, even though it was bound to be replaced by the end of the day. we were having  a lot fun in the process despite our failures and we expected a few revives from people passing through who didn't see the notes or didn't understand/didn't agree. But we didn't know until now that people were intentionally coming there to revive. Still doesn't change the fact that we had fun, but it IS a little sad that people went out of the way to negate our process.

    Guess that's Glitch!
    Posted 13 months ago by Jia-pop Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Butterflies are beautiful. A dark, mysterious mine filled with butterflies is a beautiful exercise in dualities co-existing. Leave the animals be!
    Posted 13 months ago by Spittle Gauze Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I agree with Tibbi. I HATE animals in the mines because it makes me miss rocks or almost die by singing to a passing butterfly. If rocks were priority it wouldn't be an issue and those that like to collect food from animals in the mines would be happy and those that plan ahead and bring their own food would be happy. Win win.
    Posted 13 months ago by SkyWaitress Subscriber! | Permalink
  • If there was a way to relocate them, then it would've been done. It was the placement of the butterflies at what seemed to be the most inconvenient part of the area that was the real issue. So....hint on that butterfly net thing...
    Posted 13 months ago by Jia-pop Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Jia, I certainly didn't want to upset anyone... it's all part of the 'ensuing drama', gameplay, all in good fun...
    I find that folks respond well to courtesy and will bend over backwards for you if you ask nicely, I know that you were frustrated and slipped, you apologized, none of this is personal, let's have fun! 

    There are some interesting ideas here about priority (would be nice if we could set our own) and butterfly nets, priority being my favorite.
    Posted 13 months ago by MixMasterG Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I agree with Tibbi, I wish animals were deprioritised.  >_<
    Also I like butterflies, they don't seem to mind not being fed.  Chickens too.  It's the piggies that break my heart.  Their little sad faces and downcast eyes when they're starving... ;_;
    Posted 13 months ago by ♪♥~ Auren ~♥♪ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I've seen depressed chickens in other mining areas, hunkered down & complaining about being overcrowded - but how can you move a chicken?
    Posted 13 months ago by katyroo Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I don't mind pigs being stranded in mines, or elsewhere, because I like rescuing them. Catching and deciding where to release is fun for me, and I'm grateful to the people who go through the trouble of stranding them, and to those who send out rescue/removal alerts.

    So if you have a piggy problem, you know who to call.* ;-)

    *once every 42 game days per street
    Posted 13 months ago by owly Subscriber! | Permalink
  • You can't move chickens katyroo.  =(

    And owly I will keep you in mind!  *runs off to add you to the friend list*
    Posted 13 months ago by ♪♥~ Auren ~♥♪ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Katyroo - Can you "release" the chickens? Or is that only available for house chickens?

    I think the devs are running an ecology and psychology experiment on us.
    Posted 13 months ago by Tsu Dho Nimh Subscriber! | Permalink
  • "Release" is only available for house chickens.

    I agree with owly. I mean, I dislike seeing pigs so overcrowded that they're sad (so I prefer not seeing those situations often; pixels or not), but I think that when people do strand them places, it makes things interesting for "saving them". I'm always up for saving randomly strewn piggies from treetops.
    Posted 13 months ago by Little Miss Giggles Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I'm surprised none of the miners have even a passing experience with basic child psychology.  All you have to do is to post in the forums "Yay for pigs and butterflies in the mines!  Please keep them coming , they sure make mining much much better!!" -- and they would all be gone within a day.  
    Posted 13 months ago by WalruZ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I don't mind the pigs in the caves and chickens are fine too a quick shout of KFC will get em flying. I just hate those butterflies there you can only milk em to death and that's about it rook calling is pointless people keep reviving those butterflies anyway, if they would replace the sing option to a other spot in the list it would be slightly less annoying if we could have a butterfly catching net that would be great.
    Posted 13 months ago by Nutty Subscriber! | Permalink
  • You know, I hadn't thought of it in terms of people wanting them there *just* so they can rescue them.  OK in that case as long as you guys enjoy rescuing them I will keep needing your help rescuing... >_>

    ^_^
    Posted 13 months ago by ♪♥~ Auren ~♥♪ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I propose a nectar source of a certain duration that has a tendency to draw butterflies to it, releasing an occasional errant butterfly to keep things challenging.
    Posted 13 months ago by Stewbert Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I totally get the annoyance. I've cursed out a few butterflies in my day. But, I have to admit that it cracks me up that every time they're sung to, their life is extended just a wee bit. It's the revenge of the butterfly. 

    Butterfly: ohai miner! sparkle pretty! yay!
    Miner: grumblegrumble Go away! Shoo!
    Butterfly: i <3 u
    Miner: Gah! Get out of my way you stupid stupid thing
    Butterfly: i gots milks! u want?
    Miner: no! I want you to die die die
    Butterfly: but milks! just as good as the sparkly!
    Miner: (misclick) LA!
    Butterfly: lolz
    Posted 13 months ago by Vera Strange Subscriber! | Permalink
  • LOL Vera Strange I imagine this is *exactly* what the flutterbyes are thinking.  XD
    Posted 13 months ago by ♪♥~ Auren ~♥♪ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Milk is just as good as the sparkly, if you fortify it a little with a bit of no-no.

    You only need a tiny bit of sparkly to do really well.
    Posted 13 months ago by Parrow Gnolle Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Parrow: Milk & Sparkly are both worth 8 currants. 
    or 6 at the tool vendor
    or 2.4 at the shrine with EHSP

    Sparkly might get you a touch more on auction. (currently 6 vs 6.5)
    Posted 13 months ago by Vera Strange Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Milk and sparkly may spend the same, but milk requires far more effort to get if you are jumping/massaging/milking to get it in the mines. Rocks just sit there. :)
    Posted 13 months ago by Tibbi Subscriber! | Permalink
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    Posted 13 months ago by Tibbi Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Triple post! :)
    Posted 13 months ago by Tibbi Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I personally like pigs in mines. You can get some free food for a while and last longer. If they're hungry, just feed them 1 meat. Problem solved.
    If they're bothering your mining, that's your problem.
    And the overcrowding problem isn't just mines... it's everywhere. Animals CAN exist in miens like Callopee, just like Illemenskie.
    Posted 13 months ago by Palindrome Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I understand that the animals get in the way but it is nice just the same that they are there because you may need the stuffs that they offer for cooking and some petting moods....
    Posted 13 months ago by Miss Muffett Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I understand that the animals get in the way but it is nice just the same that they are there because you may need the stuffs that they offer for cooking and some petting moods....
    Posted 13 months ago by Miss Muffett Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I understand that the animals get in the way but it is nice just the same that they are there because you may need the stuffs that they offer for cooking and some petting moods....
    Posted 13 months ago by Miss Muffett Subscriber! | Permalink
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