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Refunding Brain Capacity Upgrades

We are in the process of issuing refunds for brain capacity upgrades purchased between now and launch. (You'll only get refunded if you actually bought some.) You'll know when it happens to you because your iMG total will go up and you'll get a mail saying that it happened :)

Prices are now a bit lower across the board (though not that much) and the jumps between tiers are not as dramatic. The wording of the cards has been updated to explain their purpose a bit better. The pricing bug present in the initial launch is fixed (though we just found a new one which results in fractional pricing in some cases … argh!) The limit of 60 is now properly enforced.

Things to note:

• Prices go up steeply as your brain capacity increases (though now they also flatten out at the very top end)
• The larger denominations are always better priced per unit of capacity
• Purchasing capacity does not effect skills you have already started learning (but it will in the future)
• You will have to re-deal to see the new prices if you have brain capacity cards in your hands
• The newly redesigned skills page now shows your current brain capacity
• As before, you can see your upgrade card purchase history on your upgrades page (yes, this will be made better in the future)

Posted 7 months ago by stoot barfield Subscriber! | Permalink

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  • Thanks for the refund, the fix, and the explanation! :)
    Posted 7 months ago by b3achy Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Thank you stoot barfield for this wonderful update! I am pleased to know that my brain capacity cards will be refunded, as - at least for now - I have no use for them. When the time comes, I'd love to buy them at the "new" price. Again, thank you!
    Posted 7 months ago by usterka Subscriber! | Permalink
  • What is the basic brain capacity if you had all the BL skills at change over?

    I think I'm seeing a bug, but don't know what the base capacity is.
    Posted 7 months ago by WindBorn Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I bought upgrades.... But i didnt get any refunds
    Posted 7 months ago by Linksfiresword Subscriber! | Permalink
  • If you had all BL skills at switchover, you should have a capacity of 37 (same as the BL V).
    Posted 7 months ago by stoot barfield Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Windborn, 37.
    Posted 7 months ago by TomC Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Thanks TomC

    eta And stoot

    also eta:  no bug. all is fine.
    Posted 7 months ago by WindBorn Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Linksfiresword: We are in the process of issuing refunds. You'll know when it happens to you because your iMG total will go up and you'll get a mail saying that it happened :)
    Posted 7 months ago by stoot barfield Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Yay!  Thanks for the refund :D  Now to find the last few elusive single-purchase upgrades!
    Posted 7 months ago by Xopher TAF Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I'm really confused by the bulk discount on brain capacity.  Before it was the case that you should always buy the largest card possible because it saved you imagination to do so, so I don't understand why large cards save you even more imagination.

    Let's say that when you have 20 brain capacity you have to pay 1k per upgrade (just making numbers up) but at 21 you have to pay 2k and at 23 you have to pay 3k.  If you buy all +1 cards then you end up spending 6k to get to 24.  If you buy a +3 card then you only end up paying 3k (3 times the 20 brain capacity cost).  So it was always better to buy the +3 (or really, the +5) and I don't really understand why a discount was introduced.
    Posted 7 months ago by Humbabella Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Thanks..... especially for the aweasome stew ;)!!!!
    Posted 7 months ago by Hersche Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Thank you very much, Tiny Speck. :)
    Posted 7 months ago by Flowerry Pott Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Is there any chance of revealing the pricing formula for Brain Capacity (and Quoin Multiplier and Energy Tank) cards?

    The price for Brain Capacity +3 card at 37 existing capacity seems to have gone up. It's now at 33,829 iMG; previously it was 28,500 iMG.
    Posted 7 months ago by TomC Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Because the Giants wanted it that way.  Especially Lem.

    (oops, this topic is moving fast.  That's in reply to Humbabella.)
    Posted 7 months ago by WindBorn Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Thank-you!!!! :D :D
    Posted 7 months ago by Yarf Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Thanks stoot. I needed the boost in IMG.

     Now, lets talk about letting us pickle Funpickle again. lol
    Posted 7 months ago by Some_Random_Guy Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Thank you TS! Before I had a bunch of the too-cheap 16,000 cards and I'm glad that this fix levels the playing field.
    Posted 7 months ago by jello's landscaping Subscriber! | Permalink
  • What does 99/37 Skills mean? I thought the 99 was this cap that's been mentioned, but the first post states 60 is the cap.  So what is this "cap" thing.  What is the 99 referring to?  :)

    Nice refund, will give me lots of img to play house with (I bought alot of brain cards).
    Posted 7 months ago by Tibbi Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Yeah, definitely reshuffle your hand. I didn't see this until after I bought my first brain upgrade for 80,000, and was shocked when the second one was a fraction the cost!
    Posted 7 months ago by Knitomaton Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Thanks!
    Posted 7 months ago by Moogaly Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I think I have a bug re: Brain Capacity - I'm pretty sure I had all the BL skills before the change to iMG, but my Brain Cap is at 32 atm. (I have been refunded for Brain Cap upgrades.)

    edit: I went through my activity via my profile page, and there are 8 skills that I learned that no longer exist: the five BL skills and three Unlearning skills. Snapshottery, which is a skill I know also disappeared, was the second upgrade I bought, so I definitely learned all the BL skills.
    Posted 7 months ago by millefiori Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Tibbi, 99 is how many skills you have learned; 37 is your current brain capacity.
    Posted 7 months ago by TomC Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I think the 99 is how many skills you've learned.

    (TomC beat me to it.)

    My thoughts - I'm kind of glad that the brain capacity was refunded. Any future skills may take a long time to learn, but I'll get them eventually. So, for now, I'm happy with 37 capacity.
    Posted 7 months ago by dm Subscriber! | Permalink
  • 99 is how many skills you have learned or started, 37 is your current brain capacity.  edit: ninja'd
    Posted 7 months ago by Fnibbit Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Thanks, staff!
    Posted 7 months ago by Aurora Dellaterra Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Thanks for the Awesome Stew, stoot.  You rock.
    Posted 7 months ago by FTW BACON!! Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Yeah, thanks for the stew!
    Posted 7 months ago by RJStormRider Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I love the awesome stews! Stoot you are amazing!
    Posted 7 months ago by Princess Penelope ♥ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Just awesome, stoot and TS team :)
    Posted 7 months ago by Rowan Croft Subscriber! | Permalink
  • No refund here. Just stew. Puts me in quite a stew, neh?
    Posted 7 months ago by Eveshka Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Since people are asking questions about what 99/37 means, perhaps a description when hovering over the sweating brain would be helpful - what these numbers mean, what the time penalty means, etc.

    Unless this is explained better during some tutorial that is available to newbs that we haven't seen yet, it seems to still be a misunderstood topic.
    Posted 7 months ago by Joe Blow Subscriber! | Permalink
  • You have 99 skills. The 37 is the brain capacity. The difference is your time penalty.

    Were people this confused with Better Learning? It's the same principal!
    Posted 7 months ago by MarbhDamhsa Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Thank you!  I am now at 37 and got a nice refund on iMG.  Also, I am learning TR (started when it was introduced).  This morning I had 8+ days left and now I have 6+!  It seemed to be stuck at 8+ for a couple of days but as there is nothing else to learn I just ignored it.

    ETA:  Thanks for the new Skills page!  This makes it easier to see what skills there are and which I have (All of them!). 
    Posted 7 months ago by Brib Annie Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Got my refunds! thx!
    Posted 7 months ago by Linksfiresword Subscriber! | Permalink
  • thank you thank you thank you

    "In your case, 8 upgrades were refunded and you got 444000 iMG back in total."
    Posted 7 months ago by Csophae Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Mmmmm Stew. Thanks! 
    Posted 7 months ago by Mr LaserExplosion Subscriber! | Permalink
  • thank you :)
    Posted 7 months ago by Katee Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Thank you for your time and effort in making this correction!
    Posted 7 months ago by Jesus Christ Subscriber! | Permalink
  • "Were people this confused with Better Learning? It's the same principal! "

    Yes. Quite. As evidenced by the appearance of a "Brain Capacity" section with a 99/37 on my skills page. Would this be becessary if explanations weren't in order regarding how things used to work?

    Would a sentence or two further explaining what a sweating brain means be a horrific thing?

    I understand the numbers quite well, but lots of new players will not.
    Posted 7 months ago by Joe Blow Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Stew! Awesome!
    Posted 7 months ago by Mal'akh Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Joe Blow: a tooltip + clickable dialog with an explanation of how it works is still to come.
    Posted 7 months ago by stoot barfield Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Players who grow over the limit organically won't need any explination as they go from 97 to 98 to 99...
    Posted 7 months ago by Sturminator i` Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Thanks TomC.  I'd forgot I had that many skills since you have to count up the ones not included in the count on the page further down. Didn't occur to me at all that's what that number was. :)  Makes perfect sense. :)

    Now, I think there should be a card in future that raises the brain cap past 60. :)
    Posted 7 months ago by Tibbi Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Thank you Stoot and TS! I also really appreciated the refund and the bonus Stew Pack! I think I seriously misunderstood the Brain Capacity cards as well, but put it aside to lessons learned. It's sooper awesome to get another chance to spend that iMG as I really need it, thank you for the consideration and the snazzy touch!
    Posted 7 months ago by absolute Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I had all BL upgrades before but i seem to only have 32 in brain capacity now?
    Is this intentional?
    Posted 7 months ago by Annelie Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Now just to figure out which skills I dont need or use... Hmmm.... I like being self sufficient but I see the game is heading in the direction of making that kind of hard.
    Would I rather be a chef who has a passion for fox brushing and mines to make ends meet or know all the things and it take me 45 days 23 hours 57 minutes and 17 seconds* to learn new skills.... Decisions decisions.

    *all numbers made up completely =)
    Posted 7 months ago by Clickadee Subscriber! | Permalink
  • No, no thank you, not awesome, not cool. If you're a player who started to play 2 months ago it's really not cool. Because you end up with 150 days of learning skills to learn 20 skills with 756% time penalty (that will increase as we learn more...)!!! So I might as well go on holiday and return in 2013, then only maybe my avatar will be able to enjoy the game?
    When you're an older player you don't feel the difference as you already have all the skills you need. But at 2 months old you don't have enough IMG to get the right BC cards.
    The refund message said you want us to make the right decisions then please publish somewhere the upgrade cards available so we know what we should choose or not depending what we need.
    I feel so stuck and trapped right now
    PS: want to thank my level 60 friends who know I spend my days just working on that skills time and took me under their wings to help me in that loooong learning skills mission. You make my Glitch a better experience <3
    Posted 7 months ago by Miyoko Magic in SL Subscriber! | Permalink
  • on a fun side, a friend messaged me: can you teleport me please? And my reply was: sure, can you wait 29 days? ;)
    Posted 7 months ago by Miyoko Magic in SL Subscriber! | Permalink
  • your BFF Morgan Kay, see this thread and this thread (here, the info you want is under Upgrades and Upgrades by Cost) for player-compiled lists of the upgrade cards. 
    Posted 7 months ago by Millie Subscriber! | Permalink
  • on a fun side, a friend messaged me: can you teleport me please? And my reply was: sure, can you wait 29 days? ;) -- your BFF Morgan Kay 

    Oh now that is precious!
    Posted 7 months ago by Mal'akh Subscriber! | Permalink
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