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Community Event:War On Spice Trees!

I decided to start a community event that i like to call...war on spice trees!
You know IX is a good place to get spice....but what if all the spice trees were to die? then spice would be more valuable and people could make money off of it!
However, it would also mean spice is harder to come by.

So i would like everyone to pick a side and support it! Those who want spice to be more valuable should work together to kill the trees with poison. Those who want things to stay the same should get antidotes and be ready to save the trees!

What side will you support?

This event starts...NOW!

This should be a fun event to spice things up! *goes off to prepare to poison trees*

UPDATE: I suppose an edit is in order to make it clear my current stance on this...as stated in my latest post in this topic, i have given up on poisoning spice trees..for now at least.  It's a wasted effort,at least attempting this solo. Plus i dont like people being mad at me. Im not a troll, i only had fun in mind when suggesting this.  In fact, i have even tried planting a new grove of spice trees in jethimadh...but when i checked next day,most had been replaced by spice trees.

Posted 15 months ago by Riddleguy Subscriber! | Permalink

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  • I totally get the "fun" factor in your idea. I do. I think it came from a pure place and I am not passing judgment on who you are because you came up with it. But I disagree.

    I think it's this kind of kill-things-that-don't-make-us-profit-and-pretend-killing-and-defending-are-on-level-ground thinking that gets us all into real messes. But maybe that's just how I understood the game from the description of its creators: a place for people to collaborate and help one another, not stage wars that might rob the game environment of resources. I think we give an item value by putting energy into it - i.e. if you have plenty of recipes, tools, and skills, you can make something very valuable out of your overabundant allspice. If you're just selling it in bulk, well...maybe that's just boring.

    Then again, I live in Groddle Forest so allspice is already rare for me (which is why I planted one in my yard and value it very much).

    Also, I think the ability to "ambush" when attacking is unfair when the opposing team's role is to "rescue". I mean, those of us who want the trees around can't do much to "surprise" you by...taking care of trees? I only bring up fairness here because if we chuck it out, you're pretty much exterminating trees against the attempts of a few scattered, confused, and/or unaware glitches who never saw this post and never saw the poison coming. That, imho, just somehow seems against the very essence of Glitch.
    Posted 14 months ago by Reigh Subscriber! | Permalink
  • "Just because you can do a thing, does not always mean you should. While the game mechanics do allow for this, there are better targets. (bean trees!)"

    Keep yer grubby fingers off my awesome stew ingredient ;D
    Posted 14 months ago by juv3nal Subscriber! | Permalink
  • @Reigh: that's the same kind of thinking I had; the game was not presented as a situation where I'd be forced to be aggressive in any way.

    @Effigy and @desdemona:

    "What it is doing is galvanising people to enforce their will upon the world, which is the aim of the game.

    If you don’t like it, or want to put a stop to it, you also have the means to bring about the things you’d like to see. No one is powerless to act in this game simply because skills cost nothing to learn and levelling doesn’t really give that much of an advantage."

    ^THIS."

    I don't recall this being listed in the aim of the game.  I seem to recall cooperative being mentioned somewhere.  Perhaps my idea of cooperative doesn't include stuff that a lot of people can't help but present in an aggressive fashion.

    @desdemona: obviously we all want different things out of the game but some behaviours make it very difficult for some players to play "their way".  Cooks are going to have a hard time with no spice. =)

    I certainly don't think there's one way to play but it's hard when you go on a spice run one day and come back with a few hundred spices, and the next time you come back with half that.  I am very interested in the fact that people find destructiveness a fun behaviour though. =)
    Posted 14 months ago by Nosferatutu Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Also, I think the ability to "ambush" when attacking is unfair when the opposing team's role is to "rescue".

    It needn't be just about reacting and applying antidote when you see a spice tree's been poisoned. If people are changing spice into gas, it works equally effectively to be proactive about it and grab some poison and start converting some gas trees elsewhere in the world into spice. The only reason the situation is unfair is if you handicap yourself by deciding to only play defense.
    Posted 14 months ago by juv3nal Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Sometimes I hate this goddamn game...
    Posted 14 months ago by PittyPat is sad Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I think the idea sucks.

    There are bound to be differences on what trees to have where, and a bit of to-ing and fro-ing is just fine - personally I could happily do without so many bean trees everywhere, and have been pleased to find some of them turning into bubble and gas trees - but the idea of mass tree extinctions to manipulate the market and impose a kind of war-game mindset just sucks.

    As someone above said, the players this really impacts on are the new ones - if they can't survive then they'll just give up, which means the game will be dead in the water. I think if the devs have any sense, they'll tweak tree-poisoning cool-downs to the extent where it becomes impractical for small groups (less than hundreds) to totally denude the landscape of the means by which new players can progress.

    FWIW I think that if you have umpteen billion currants and are getting bored, y'could either find something constructive to do, or go get your conflict kicks in World of Warcraft or some first-person shooter or something.

    At the end of the day, again in my view, "let's kill all X" really isn't terribly imaginative or amusing, we have enough of that kind of shit in real life.
    Posted 14 months ago by Richard Head Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Oh, noes! People are using tree poison to poison trees!
    I want to go back into my happy fun-time bubble where no conflict of any kind ever happens.
    Let's make this game as boring as possible! Let's get rid of axes, because they are used for violent actions.  Let's get rid of anything that can have any negative effect ever. I hate free will!
    Posted 14 months ago by Hiram Chipoltepac Subscriber! | Permalink
  • briar was ahead of her time...
    Posted 14 months ago by katlazam Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Hiram, I think you're missing the point - no-one said not to kill trees, nor denied that there would be conflict, it's just the the conflicts are subtler and more social - it's sort of nice that Glitch is not WoW.
    Posted 14 months ago by Richard Head Subscriber! | Permalink
  • well I am soooo frickin' please for you that you've completed all your tasks, earned all your currants, up to the hilt in XP and are bored senseless with the game to come up with a 'War on Trees' idea.   May I ask what about the newcomer?  Is it fair to them who are just starting out - who need stuff but have very little resources??  

    Perhaps you could go fight in your own back yard and leave the newcomer to find their way about as you got the chance to do in the beginning.
    Posted 14 months ago by Really Pissed Off Subscriber! | Permalink
  • +100000 viv.. I so agree  imo :)

    "spice is everything"  and, IMO, for those of you who never read Dune, you should :)  or at least watch the movie !
    Posted 14 months ago by Qizara Subscriber! | Permalink
  •  Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?
    Posted 14 months ago by Hiram Chipoltepac Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Free will does not equal antisocial activities/destructive activities, unless that mass of gray matter resident in your skull is there for purely decorative reasons.

    That they make Louisville Sluggers is not an invitation to brain the poor sod waiting at the bus stop. That they make matches does not mean they intend for me to burn down a building. That drain cleaner is a liquid does not mean you were intended to drink it.

    "I went to visit Yosemite, but someone had burned down the valley and said I could replant it if I really wanted to see trees."
    Posted 14 months ago by TK-855 Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Tee Hee you're funny. I want to poison trees in a game does NOT equal me wanting to bash in someone's skull. Or burn down Yosemite. I'm a conservationist in real life. 
    It's a game. A free game. It's supposed to be fun. Enjoy it.
    Posted 14 months ago by Hiram Chipoltepac Subscriber! | Permalink
  • It's considerably less fun when there's a POISON ALL DA TREES thread every week. If I want to see people despoiling the environment, I'll go work for an oil company. If I want violence and gore, I'll go play Fallout: New Vegas.
    Posted 14 months ago by TK-855 Subscriber! | Permalink
  • This thread is still going? Really?
    Posted 14 months ago by Parrow Gnolle Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Don't mind the good fun, either side of it, but it's rather boring right now the moment of stalemate. Maybe quicker cooldown or some group bonus (e.g. poison together makes it harder to save etc?)
    Posted 14 months ago by scrappy Subscriber! | Permalink
  • A few hours ago ingame I heard that all spice trees in East Spice had been annihilated, so I guess the thread does have a good reason to keep going.
    Posted 14 months ago by Merope Subscriber! | Permalink
  • "Pssst... Did ya kbnow that Spice is plentiful in the Firebog area?"

    Yeah, not so much.  This morning all the lovely spice had been turned into naive little gas trees, pining for love, attention, and a 48 hour lifespan.  All the spice had been there not 8 hours before, too.

    My best defense against this is just harvest what I can, when I see it, and hope I have enough stockpiled for the coming XYZ drought.  Good point though about how hard it is to harvest from baby trees...

    I really would like the residents of my street to have the power to collectively determine what can be planted and grown on our street.  This seems like it would add some more interest to the tree warz.  Maybe a somewhat expensive certificate that we could all contribute currants towards...I always love some good bureaucracy, and right now that area is woefully undeveloped.
    Posted 14 months ago by Nanookie Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I like the idea of a user-run event, but I hate the idea of poisoning trees...
    Posted 14 months ago by le crochet Subscriber! | Permalink
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    Posted 14 months ago by Really Pissed Off Subscriber! | Permalink
  • NOTE:  Kinder Gentler and much Weirder kind of experience
    Posted 14 months ago by Really Pissed Off Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Agreed viv! KINDER. Tree wars do not belong in Glitch!
    Posted 14 months ago by Audaria Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I don' know that it is an 'either side of it' situation.  I lump the pro-pice/anti-spice people in one group.  The rest of us are the real 'other side'.

    Yes, there shoul be a thread about the issue.  I am not surethis is that thread.
    Posted 14 months ago by Parrow Gnolle Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Stupid stupid idea :(  I wish Glitch would change so that you can only kill trees in your own yard rather then anywhere.  Why should a few be able to spoil the game for the masses.  If there are no trees and they are trying to artificially raise the price of allspice, maybe vendors should start selling it -- would love to see that!
    Posted 14 months ago by Cabinwood Subscriber! | Permalink
  • All i have to say is i for one have a war on gas trees in ix , before the reset and after when i have the time i kill as many of the gas buggers out of ix to replace with spice , mind you i only kill off trees in a location when i have the fertile dust to get them full grown before leaving again.

    I know other go about the same dance only with gas trees as their lover .. like the tide there is an eve and flow , whenever something gets out of wack players try to correct it , no need to get all bent out of shape over any of it.
    Posted 14 months ago by Karma Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I would like to point out some important details
    1.I no longer am actively poisoning spice trees...i have given up on it.
    2.I have discovered that if you try to wipe out the spice trees in west spice/east spice...the downsides are not only is there less spice in the world but players will get mad at you and come to hate you for it or be annoyed with you at best.
    3.Trying to eliminated the spice trees in west and east spice seems to be wasted effort solo.. i have tried twice and both time my attempts were thwarted and the spice quickly returned.

    2 and 3 are the reasons i gave up on poisoning the spice trees. I like to have fun and be a bit evil but im not a troll/jerk. If i had succeeded in my attempts i would be planting a new grove of spice trees afterwards. The goal when i had this event in mind was merely to eliminate spice trees temporarily.
    Posted 14 months ago by Riddleguy Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Stepping out of character temporarily-

    well, I gotta give you credit for for trying to make things interesting. I do not hate you for attempting to make the game interesting with a player-created/player driven event. In fact, there are many of us trying do just that. There might be a few projects that need your help. In any case, keep your creativity and ideas flowing, but please think about how they might affect new/low level players. 

    alright off to go write up an article on last night's AWESOME birthday party!!
    Posted 14 months ago by DJTch7 Subscriber! | Permalink
  • As a glitch who sells seasoned beans, I was only somewhat surprised to see my spice bean auctions doing rather well the past day or two! As a frequent market price watcher and recent convert to no-no powder, this makes me feel like a cocaine-addled war profiteer slash Wall Street executive ... and being able to make that comparison is diabolically fun. Now to get hopped up on hairball flower so I can make gather resources faster while on no-no (drug cocktail!) before the market crashes ...
    Posted 14 months ago by Klara Subscriber! | Permalink
  • "Boo. If you want to go bust heads and smash down walls, go play World of Warcraft. "

    this is an old comment, but...seriously? first off, how on earth is killing trees comparable to busting heads? and second of all, i could just as easily say "if you want to farm, cook, and raise animals in a world where everything stays in the same place every single day and nothing really changes, go play Harvest Moon."

    but everyone is welcome to play this game, no matter what their playstyle is. that's why we have tree poisons and antidote. farmlands and mines. no-no and hooch. there's room for all of us to follow our own paths, unless someone *actually* wants to bust heads, which isn't an option. 
    Posted 14 months ago by Rev. Desdemona Subscriber! | Permalink
  • And now someone (and yes I know who it is but I am going to be nice and not name them) is going around Groddle Heights killing all the other trees off and planting bubble trees. Now, while I like bubble trees, this is INCREDIBLY irritating when you want an nice variety available to you without having to travel to a whole other area just to pick up a bean or a cherry.

    Really? It's lame, and all you will do is get people mad at you. There are so many other outlets for you to use your currants creatively instead of spending it all on tree poison.
    Posted 14 months ago by anonymoose Subscriber! | Permalink
  • I feel like that's up to their discretion though. :) If they want bubble trees... Well, that's why they got Botany isn't it?
    Posted 14 months ago by Liza Throttlebottom Subscriber! | Permalink
  • If they want bubble trees they should buy a house and plant their own, instead of imposing their bubble preference on everyone in every single street. It's... it's tree discrimination!
    Posted 14 months ago by anonymoose Subscriber! | Permalink
  • The same rule for poisoning trees should be imposed as is in place for pig hog-tying.  Let people go to town poisoning one tree about once per real-life week in each area.  That could still present a problem, but not nearly as big a problem.  Nobody could go on their own individual warpath, and the only way to conduct an actual jihad would be by collaborating with others.
    Posted 14 months ago by Parrow Gnolle Subscriber! | Permalink
  • Yes, but that's five trees at max. :P It's not nearly enough for most people's purposes. Botany gave us the power to put into Ur what we and maybe our friends wanted. It also gave our 'enemies' (I like to think no one in Glitch is enemies with anyone else but I digress) the power to undo the work we've done.

    Tree wars are the result. :P You kind of just have to deal with them, because people play the game in different ways and therefore have a different ideal for resources.

    Personally, I'd want a perfectly even split with wood trees actually represented for once. But that won't happen. :P

    So you do your best and enjoy the game despite all that. :)
    Posted 14 months ago by Liza Throttlebottom Subscriber! | Permalink
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